Eceleb containment thread

Jackson Martin
Jackson Martin

Post your favourite videos by ecelebs.
Post your complaints about anons posting videos by ecelebs.

youtu.be/yvirpCAbGSY
"According to the numbers 70 % of all businesses fail within 10 years. And if you're failing after 10 years, that means you have been struggling and having a terrible time of it for that entire time. It's just not a proposition that most people can undergo realistically. It's worse than gambling. I could go to Las Vegas. And I could go to the craps table. And I could bet on the pass line with odds, and I have a 50/50 chance that I'm going to win on that bet. Your chances are better in Las Vegas at the craps table than they are for you to go out and bootstrap your own business with your life savings, for the vast majority of workers on planet Earth."

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youtube.com/watch?v=sXFNbwuBrY4
youtube.com/watch?v=HhKRCTIZIA4
maoistrebelnews.com/2011/04/26/the-saiyan-race-victims-of-class-struggle/
youtube.com/watch?v=khRZYNuwH-8
sinthetics.com/gallery/female-galleries/alicia/alicia-1h/
puntingwiki.com/wiki/London_Walkups
youtu.be/w303dRDpgRM
instagram.com/AyoCaesar/
youtu.be/RMqfRey10gA
archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/98/06/07/specials/price-clockers.html
youtube.com/watch?v=xbQrz_xR3Pg
youtube.com/channel/UCko8bu6w_OpE8DlKDubg9sQ
youtube.com/watch?v=IjGPm6qjIWk
youtu.be/0K2qizX6xYs
youtu.be/8fDNT00fyRE
youtu.be/29-EqENBS78
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/ch02d.htm
heterodox.economicblogs.org/bill-mitchell/2018/mitchell-europhile-left-jacobin-response-brexit
youtu.be/hMZzFsEQPMI
youtube.com/watch?v=uT5A0sVd0xI
youtu.be/oSltrojXtXc
youtu.be/NvclxEZ6Mx0
williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/williams-in-the-news/beyond-stereotypes-poverty-in-the-lgbt-community/
youtu.be/WVL5xiyeiWQ
youtu.be/85wJjPTDS80
medium.com/@drakeberkman/resolving-my-position-in-the-communist-movement-f09d6c78360d

Brandon Evans
Brandon Evans

Rejecting capitalism for fun and profit
Rejecting capitalism
for profit
Someone get this nigga to read Marx.

Jaxon Morgan
Jaxon Morgan

Someone get this nigga to read Marx.
Good to read, thanks.
But I was really thinking of, for example, when you get in tired from work. You don't want to read. You've got a bit of time before bed. You want to do something a bit more entertaining, than reading a pdf.
I mean.. someone get Peter Coffin's wife to read Marx, on YouTube. She's just diccussed ads, so far.
youtu.be/YHmjrbnXRAc
She seems to stare right through the camera into the soul of the viewer. I find it unnerving, but pleasurable at the same time.

John Morgan
John Morgan

Adolf Stalin

Jacob Gonzalez
Jacob Gonzalez

Adolf Stalin
ok…..
what's your favourite Adolf Stalin video?

Luis Flores
Luis Flores

"For fun and profit" is a programmer meme like "considered harmful".

Noah Sanders
Noah Sanders

I like this from Slejm (now Partizán):
youtube.com/watch?v=itXe36CDYH4

John Sanchez
John Sanchez

Peter Coffin's wife

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Bentley Davis
Bentley Davis

non compete
pls no

But my favorite video is "Towards a scientific definition of anti imperialism" by Pierre tru dank
youtu.be/eM2V3PTNaG4

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Joseph Hill
Joseph Hill

I used to be leery of Noncompete but he's made some solid stuff recently, including the vid in OP.
Here's another good one.

Stop relying on liberals – Choose your own DESTINY!
youtube.com/watch?v=sXFNbwuBrY4

I do find his attempts at humor to be cringeworthy.

John Gutierrez
John Gutierrez

I like any of his ones on people like Camatte, Pol Pot and Linkola. He’s one of the most redpilled people on youtube

Jeremiah Robinson
Jeremiah Robinson

The Saiyan Race: Victims of Class Struggle by Jason Unruhe
youtube.com/watch?v=HhKRCTIZIA4
maoistrebelnews.com/2011/04/26/the-saiyan-race-victims-of-class-struggle/

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Henry Nguyen
Henry Nguyen

you know who here, what would Finnbol think about this, especially the bottom part?

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Lincoln Richardson
Lincoln Richardson

Idc what you think I'd love to slap my meatstick in between those thighs nomsayan'

Michael Evans
Michael Evans

Nice I also love Pierre's video about "The Left and Free Speech". He makes a good point about free speech.

youtube.com/watch?v=khRZYNuwH-8

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Gabriel Green
Gabriel Green

You can do so for the low, low price of $5 grand:
sinthetics.com/gallery/female-galleries/alicia/alicia-1h/

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Evan Bennett
Evan Bennett

You can do so for the low, low price of $5 grand:
Shocking.
You could have an experience with a real human being and go for a pie and a pint afterwards, at least x100 times for that sort of money. (If you exchanged it from burgerland money.)
puntingwiki.com/wiki/London_Walkups

Luis Ross
Luis Ross

Nah I'm good

Logan Gomez
Logan Gomez

I've had exgfs women are more trouble than they're worth

Easton Watson
Easton Watson

I should do a part 3 of my Frankfurt school series

Aaron Robinson
Aaron Robinson

real women
You sicken me

Brayden Clark
Brayden Clark

Isn't he just like one of Jim Profit's fans who decided to start uploading?

Ryder Howard
Ryder Howard

I’m not sure, but his videos are fun to watch. He’s redpilled on a lot of the same things as me

David Peterson
David Peterson

I started uploading before I knew much of him

Ethan Carter
Ethan Carter

Ash Sarkar
youtu.be/w303dRDpgRM
Guy she's interviewing:

I suppose what I am saying is not all poor people are Marxists…Not that it's wrong for poor people to want the norms of middle class life. Who doesn't want to have a comfortable life? Who wants to spend twelve hours a day working and have nothing to show for it at the end of fifty years? In a factory or wherever it may be.
But yeah…a lot of middle class black outrage at so called gangster rap for example is more about black people wanting to look respectable. Because every other culture celebrates violence. [He mentioned Korean revenge films, and Italian gangster films earlier in the interview.] If your argument is its going to make us look bad, what you're doing is normalising the white gaze. - you're saying it's going to make us look bad to who? Middle class white people don't say Danny Dyer makes us look bad. [Danny Dyer is a white English actor who got his big break playing a football hooligan in a a film] So them refusing to interrogate why they think a white audience is not enough to know the difference between the black underclass and black people that are not part of the underclass.

Moar of pic related: instagram.com/AyoCaesar/

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Camden Gomez
Camden Gomez

*not intelligent enough

Gavin Russell
Gavin Russell

Gangsta rap has been a fucking minstrel show since “The Chronic” and 2Pac.
It does make black people look bad. The Godfather flicks didn’t play into Italian stereotypes of them being idiots. It glorified the fuck out of the mafia.

Daniel Bell
Daniel Bell

Gangsta rap has been a fucking minstrel show since “The Chronic” and 2Pac.
I haven't heard, but normally minstrelry means a version mocking the genre? Al Johnson in blackface, something like that? I mean gangster rap-, it's not just the subject matter that's going to make it minstelry. I've got Ice Cubes "Death certificate" cd . On the front he's in the mortuary with the corpse of uncle Sam on the slab. On the back he's in a gun holding pose. Yes lurid stuff! But the tracks are poetry:
youtu.be/RMqfRey10gA
The same subject matter was dealt with successfully in fiction by Richard Price:
archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/98/06/07/specials/price-clockers.html
The Godfather flicks didn’t play into Italian stereotypes of them being idiots. It glorified the fuck out of the mafia.
I think that's the point the interviewee is making. Middle class Italians don't say "mafia films make everyone think Italians are all crooks."

Carson Bailey
Carson Bailey

I don't think I can get a doll to read Marx, user.

Julian Reyes
Julian Reyes

I don't think I can get a doll to read Marx, user.
It's strange how well the channel is doing since Mrs. Coffin appeared on the scene, though.

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Parker Bell
Parker Bell

Class Reductionism keeps the working class divided, NOT intersectionalism!
youtube.com/watch?v=xbQrz_xR3Pg

Holy shit, this fuckin guy. He spends the entire time repeating the same "we need idpol to have a revoultion" and never substantiates it. In fact, he even makes the counter-argument that being working class unites people and underpins idpol issues. But somehow the "class reductionists" are wrong to say that class is fundamentally different from idpol concerns.

He keeps saying we need to "negate" idpol problems before we can get rid of capitalism (he butchers the fuck out of dialectics and materialism), but never specifies what that actually entails because he wants to do another video about that topic. He really did just omit the "what is to be done" part of his argument, which is kind of important to the point he wants to make.

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Justin Ramirez
Justin Ramirez

instagram.com/AyoCaesar/
Anarcho-Fabulous. Luxury-Communist
nigga what the fuck

Landon Price
Landon Price

how do i become an cool leftist like this? be rich?

Adrian Jones
Adrian Jones

Anarcho fabulous and luxury communism I believe to be the specific society in which the commons are all high quality bourgeoisie stuff, like all clothes available are Gucci, and all homes are high class hotels or mansions. Luxury communism in specific being that there's little to no need for work as everything is automated. Hopefully that's what you were asking.

Charles Gray
Charles Gray

Luxury communism is a legitimate goal, but it looks like she's a champagne socialist tbhfam.

Julian Hernandez
Julian Hernandez

how do i become an cool leftist like this? be rich?
Awww c'mon, she's ok. At least if she's on the telly giving the lefty opinion it means that Laurie Penny isn't.

Nicholas Evans
Nicholas Evans

Me? For me? My communism is influenced by consumer capital and exploitive commodities. Welcome to the real counter culture guys.

Gabriel Cook
Gabriel Cook

The Swoletariat is pretty good
youtube.com/channel/UCko8bu6w_OpE8DlKDubg9sQ

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Levi Nguyen
Levi Nguyen

New anti-anti-idpol vid from badmouse

CPGB-ML: An Infantile Disorder
youtube.com/watch?v=IjGPm6qjIWk

It's more of the same thing where they conflate anti-idpol and class reduction, and they conflate those two with social conservatism, as if "Our socialist org needs to focus on socialism" is equivalent to "there are two genders." The CPGB-ML has an official rule to stay on topic for socialism, but Badmouse and friends interpret this as upholding patriarchy and shit. He goes on to psychoanalyze anybody who disagrees with him as having a pathological and barely suppressed bigotry. While that's true of some people certainly (and some in CPGB-ML), he's using a few examples to paint everybody who wants socialism to focus on class as crypto-bigots. Further, he credits "intersectional" socialists as the ones who recognize that class is the basis of identity politics, and tries to redefine "brocialists" as people who deny all other problems entirely, while still throwing around that label and applying it to anybody who wants to focus on class struggle with the same justification that he himself recognizes. It's a mess.

What really gets me about this is how much he wants to write off anybody he puts in this category as Bad Socialism and have them dismissed instead of working with them to create a synthesis. The basic contradiction these people have is criticizing "class reductionists" as being too exclusionary, while themselves excluding anybody who doesn't have a Right enough version of communism. Instead of taking a dialectical or grassroots approach, they define Good Socialism based on adherence to their pre-existing beliefs. They fight to avoid having to work through the contradictions and conflicts between these tendencies. It's not about class struggle for these narcissists. It's about a social club for people to wank off how woke they are, which is ironic since that's a common accusation they make for people who are willing to organize workers in spite of a lower wokeness index.

The example in this video is particularly frustrating because Badmouse goes on to admit that the stuff he used to criticize CPGB-ML as larpers (using communist aesthetics) is common to British parties, but he still leaves that in as a jab trying to discredit them. As stupid as he is, he doesn't get to use this as an excuse because he expresses awareness over this. He's always come off to me as a cynical douchebag with no scruples who would always rather smear than analyze, which is probably why he was an ancap before and why he converted to Maotism from anarchism.

tl;dr Badmouse is a retard as usual, and acts as a useful idiot for people trying to subvert socialism by making socialist orgs about anything but socialism.

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Julian Thompson
Julian Thompson

"Our socialist org needs to focus on socialism" is equivalent to "there are two genders."
The level of decay and insanity inherent to this false dichotomy, and its acceptance in the modern left, is gobstopping. Remember when the left's goal on identitarianism wasn't to redraw the chalk lines, but erase them? Remember when "gender nonconformity" meant transcending gender, rather than merely traversing it?

There aren't two genders, and there isn't an infinite spectrum of genderfluid, there are zero genders, because ID'S A FUGGING SPOOG!

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William Fisher
William Fisher

"I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
<Wow, doesn't this problematic shitlord know that "race blindness" is a racist dogwhistle denying the reality of structural racism?
When the fuck did "socialists" buy into the meme that history was over and we can't overturn these systems but have to focus on accommodating them?

John Nelson
John Nelson

SEV uploaded a new video about Freedom of speech
youtu.be/0K2qizX6xYs

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Anthony Edwards
Anthony Edwards

Badmouse is an idiot

Christopher Price
Christopher Price

This guy is pretty good.

Lucas Edwards
Lucas Edwards

lol how come i never see you niggas in the comments of these videos? yall niggas are like "we must stomp out the idpolists" but you cant even show yourselves in youtube comments. gay ass bitches lmao. you lost.

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Anthony Long
Anthony Long

what did he means about this?

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Jason Thomas
Jason Thomas

left-wing kids are the coolest kids in school

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Hunter Jenkins
Hunter Jenkins

Maoist says:
Lenin rises out of his grave
don't worship everything said leader did

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Aiden Moore
Aiden Moore

Well?

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Adrian Lopez
Adrian Lopez

lol

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Anthony Brown
Anthony Brown

admit it, they got you on this one, youre all ex-/pol/tard white bois with bigoted attitudes, the only reason you left the right is because rightists dont reed muh books and some of them look like your ugly fat dad.

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Sebastian Lee
Sebastian Lee

bro leftoids are the most boring unimaginative fucking losers on earth, reading this shit is putting me to sleep youre a wet fart on planet earth

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Jace Jones
Jace Jones

Every gay ass leftoid nigga has a social media username like "Joshua Da Commie boi Trotsky mad lad uwu-chan kawaaii comrade XD"

Austin Wood
Austin Wood

The blueprint for an leftoid social media avatar is a nintendo / disney / children's video game character distorted to shit wearing some stereotypical communist garb

Oliver Martin
Oliver Martin

Distort an extreme closeup zoom in of a person making a funny face to borderline vapor wave aesthetics add a suicidal nihilist caption and you got yourself a funny leftoid meme

Mason Davis
Mason Davis

I see anti-idpol in the comments but usually they're buried under all the comments that get upvoted, or they're outright removed by the video uploader.

Brayden Davis
Brayden Davis

Funny, I'd say that these leftoids are just liberals who never questioned most of the ideology they received from their parents.

Personally I was never a right winger. I looked into their stuff but it was pretty clearly retarded to me. I was jaded and disengaged from politics before I looked into communism, because everything else is massively retarded and obviously so. Given how often leftoids make basic ass mistakes about theory, I'm pretty sure they don't read at all. I'm not some bookworm but I do read, and it seems to me like what little reading they do is in the context of "what can I find in here that justifies ideas I already have?"

Christian Howard
Christian Howard

Much for so peach freeze

Parker Jones
Parker Jones

Nigga these niggas call you fascists and you niggas calling them niggas liberals.

You’re all faggot communists lets be real for 5 fucking seconds.

Austin Hill
Austin Hill

To be honest it can be cringe seeing her spout feminist theory amongst normies on a breakfast show of all things.

youtu.be/8fDNT00fyRE

Notice how the tone and atmosphere of the show goes awry as they react like she's an unhinged tinfoil type.

Jace Long
Jace Long

Get laid nerds!

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Gavin Ross
Gavin Ross

turning my back on the thing I spent years doing isn't laughably stupid
people who criticize me for rolling over to idpol are desperate virgins
Did someone convert him by sucking his dick or what? lmao, imagine being this much of an opportunist

Oliver Anderson
Oliver Anderson

hey anons, why don't i ever see any of you folks in a hotpocket-infested cuckhole infamous for censoring or burying submissions from people like you, and deleting accounts? why do i only see people like you on anonymous and mostly unmoderated sites that explicitly value free speech.
Gee, I dunno, hard to say, really.

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Colton Peterson
Colton Peterson

"Communism is when you have clowns instead of normal people, the more clowns there are the more communister it is"

-Karl Marx at the Frankfurter stand of hotdogs

Christopher Bell
Christopher Bell

To be honest it can be cringe seeing her spout feminist theory amongst normies on a breakfast show of all things.
She might have a point about affective labour user. I used to work in the building of a firm of stockbrokers. One of the receptionists on the front desk told me the agency she worked through put a clause in the contract which said she had to wear make up so it would be visible from the door of the building. (I can understand why that might be a legit requirement if you're working in a brothel, but a stockbrokers?) The other receptionist had a habit of giggling, due to smoking puff in the storage room. One of the heads of the company, a fat middle aged guy (a bit like the guy in the telly clip) thought it was due to his jokes instead, and, I don't know, it might have been coincidence, but she got offered a job as researcher for the firm.
Notice how the tone and atmosphere of the show goes awry as they react like she's an unhinged tinfoil type.
all I noticed during the second part, the pancake tossing segment, was how her check trousers show off her thighs tbh

SEV uploaded a new video about Freedom of speech
I didn't watch that one, but I watched
youtu.be/29-EqENBS78
Objects to Ollies (Mr. Philosophy Tube) theatrical style of presentation. I hope SEV doesn't see any Brecht or Arthur Miller plays. WhY didNt tHey just SaY thEir argumeNt to The audIeNce without fanCy sTaGIng

Angel Morgan
Angel Morgan

He's not criticizing Olly's presentation in a vacuum. He's criticizing it in the context that his actual argument is sophist garbage. "Maybe you should have spent more time making an argument and less getting the perfect lighting" isn't just an empty jab. It's a substantive criticism of a basic problem with Olly (and breadtube).

Eli Baker
Eli Baker

as long as the left is crying about "hurr muh sexualizing of women" they will lose

Jordan Allen
Jordan Allen

He's criticizing it in the context that his actual argument is sophist garbage.
SEV's wrong about this, imo. Sev says that Olly thinks democracy only means electoral democracy, when there are other types such as direct democracy. But olly wasn't talking about direct democracy in his video. He was talking about Brexit and the British voting system. Sev might as well have said Olly neglects to mention how in 5th century BC Athenians voted by a fairer system of secret ballot by casting stones into urns instead of the numbered slips used in the Brexit vote.
perfect lighting
a basic problem with Olly (and breadtube)
I believe Contrapoints started the whole lighting thing, and she got it from ASMR videos

as long as the left is crying about "hurr muh sexualizing of women" they will lose
<In both cases the marriage of convenience turns often enough into crassest prostitution-sometimes of both partners, but far more commonly of the woman, who only differs from the ordinary courtesan in that she does not let out her body on piece-work as a wage-worker, but sells it once and for all into slavery. And of all marriages of convenience Fourier’s words hold true: “As in grammar two negatives make an affirmative, so in matrimonial morality two prostitutions pass for a virtue.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/ch02d.htm

Nolan Brooks
Nolan Brooks

They're oversocialized

Tyler Nelson
Tyler Nelson

Sev says that Olly thinks democracy only means electoral democracy, when there are other types such as direct democracy. But olly wasn't talking about direct democracy in his video.
He wasn't talking about direct democracy because he thinks democracy only means electoral democracy. If olly understood democracy in its broader meaning he might have talked about other forms.
He was talking about Brexit and the British voting system.
Wasn't the point of olly's video to use Brexit as an argument against democracy? It's kind of relevant to that discussion to point out that democracy isn't limited to the specific system that produces that result.

perfect lighting
a basic problem with Olly (and breadtube)
I believe Contrapoints started the whole lighting thing, and she got it from ASMR videos
Again, the lighting itself isn't the issue. It's spending more time on production value than on arguments. There are a lot more problems with olly's argument than the one you're talking about. For instance, he also badly misuses statistics to make a point about whether Brexit voters represented the majority opinion in Britain. It's sloppy stuff that olly could have avoided with a little effort (unless he's willfully manipulating information to make his point work). Choosing to focus on the jab about presentation style when there were plenty of substantive points against olly is consistent with breadtube's ethos though.

And who cares where the trend came from? It's not a good thing that they focus on aesthetics at the expense of arguments.

Jackson Gray
Jackson Gray

Haven't seen the vid, but there's also the broader point that remoaners are indoctrinated shitlibs whose only acceptable role in the future of the UK is to be bulldozed alive into mass graves serving as mortar in the keystone of the revolution:
heterodox.economicblogs.org/bill-mitchell/2018/mitchell-europhile-left-jacobin-response-brexit

William Reyes
William Reyes

Well sure, I was talking more about why breadtube sucks than anything about brexit specifically. Even if olly came to good conclusions he's still doing a shitty job.

Angel Rodriguez
Angel Rodriguez

Best thing is to just rape

Luis Gonzalez
Luis Gonzalez

tbh I didn't watch this video. It was really long and full of jargon but from his other videos:
The reason why we don't say fuck off to trans people (bc trans ins't a working class) is because we need the support of as many people as possible to bring about the revolution (since socialist is in the minority).
<working class division is the root of all oppression
is not a compelling argument. We need to win these people to our cause and for them to be sure we will not cast them aside once our goals are achieved (which has happened before- re: Anarchists in the Soviet revolution)

Jordan Bennett
Jordan Bennett

Greek philosophy? lol nope
Paganism, hinduism, or buddhism? nah
Catholic philosophy on mathematics and metaphysics? sorry, no
Marxism? het
Drag queens and glitter?

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YAAAS SLAY KWEEN FUCK READING

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Austin Watson
Austin Watson

Y'all all say the same shit every time, but there's no substance to it. We can ask basic questions like these and there's just no answer. There's either a pivot to another point or there's accusations of bigotry. Whatever, though. I'll keep answering because it calls out to be answered.

The reason why we don't say fuck off to trans people
Being a "class reductionist" doesn't mean telling trans people to fuck off. It means socialism is about class struggle, and identity politics are at most secondary. Trans people are allowed to exist in a context other than someone being an advocate for them, and they are perfectly welcome in any decent socialist movement. If the movement is focusing on trans issues (or any other identity issues) rather than socialism, then it's not a socialist movement, at least not primarily.
(bc trans ins't a working class)
What? Most trans people are working class. It's a whole different category.
is because we need the support of as many people as possible to bring about the revolution (since socialist is in the minority).
How is bending over backward to please a small minority like trans people going to win the support of as many people as possible?
<working class division is the root of all oppression
is not a compelling argument.
Says you, based on what? Class not only shapes everyone via class, it underpins the other conflicts as well. If you don't find the root cause compelling I think that's your problem. Sounds like you're not interested in fixing anything if you are so quick to brush off the root cause.

We need to win these people to our cause
Do we though? As a member of a minority group, those of us who care primarily about idpol do not speak for all of us. You're stuck in some Ayn Rand selfishness world if you think the only reason someone would join the socialist cause is if it makes a special point of pandering to them. Fixing the economy helps everybody. You can add concern for other struggles to that, but they are secondary to class both because they are smaller in scale and ontologically dependent on class.
and for them to be sure we will not cast them aside once our goals are achieved
This sounds like an attempt to trick people. If you just pander to a group it comes off as "the lady doth protest too much" and makes people more suspicious. You can genuinely earn people's trust by treating them as peers and working alongside them.
(which has happened before- re: Anarchists in the Soviet revolution)
Anarchists vs the USSR is a political theory/praxis struggle, not an identity one. That's a completely different discussion.

Hudson Walker
Hudson Walker

99% of people (probably including myself) are fucking retarded ship. This is just prole-food for the masses to consume.

Ethan Nguyen
Ethan Nguyen

Lol there is an right-wing cringe thread right underneath this cringe thread

Eli Bell
Eli Bell

youtu.be/hMZzFsEQPMI
new anti idpol video from SEV
Bad communists don't make idpol revolutionary

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Dylan Powell
Dylan Powell

To be honest I would like to see, with him or Swoletariat, a debate on intersectionality with anarchopac as she seems the knowledgeable on this subject.

Connor Gonzalez
Connor Gonzalez

I agree, but I kind of would expect anarchopac to pull the "you're harassing a trans woman" card when the debate moves in their favor.

Swoletariat debated NonCompete on this.
youtube.com/watch?v=uT5A0sVd0xI

tl;dr
Emerican Johnson laser-focuses on "class reductionism" instead of anti-idpol
Swoletariat takes the bait (or is genuinely just retarded) and argues for class-reductionism specifically instead of against idpol (and particularly idpol disrupting organizing)
Luna is there to be a cudgel accusing Swoletariat of being exclusionary to marginalized people
Every time one of these breadtubers says something kind of good, they always follow it up with bullshit like this to remind me they're either very stupid or actual feds trying to subvert radicalism. Either way they clearly don't know shit beyond what they cherrypick to support their points.

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Liam Collins
Liam Collins

You know what, I actually missed the beginning of this, so I'm going to start watching from the beginning on 1.5 speed and live-post highlights with timestamps.

Jack Davis
Jack Davis

First two minutes:
Emerican Johnson is apparently dumb, because he doesn't understand the concept of a delay in the stream
NonCompete wanted to do this after Swoletariat made a video arguing about "When should white leftists take a seat"
Luna is included because "I don't want this to be just two white guys"

<3:07 Swole says he subscribed to PewDiePie after seeing NonCompete whine about him
<4:45 Swole brings up people getting mad at NC over acknowledging PewDiePie trying to be better, and says NC took them too seriously
6:00 EJ: "You took me out of context" "I don't say all white people are racist, but I think it's good when non-whites do"
<7:15 Swole admits he wasn't clear that he was responding to the idea instead of to EJ
They're already derailing. The point shouldn't be who believes what here, but whether the idea itself has merit.

8:40-9:10 EJ: "Do you believe in structural racism?" "White people benefit from structural racism." "When we talk about privileges, it's not that we have advantages per se, but that other groups have disadvantages that we don't have."
Not only does he contradict himself, he provides the anti-idpol argument for why it's dumb to speak in terms of "privilege."
<9:20 Swole agrees with structural racism and concedes white privilege
The debate should have gone in a completely different direction right here. Jumping on the contradictions and improper use of the term "privilege" would have the easy and smart thing to do here.
<10:00 "Intersectionality's definition of racism is not what most people use, and it confuses people when you say all white people are racist."
10:50 EJ: "Uh… I think we lost him" and then they realize Swole was just sitting still
And this point about confusion gets lost permanently, as they move on to a different one, namely "why do you think (white) people get upset by this argument?" as if Swoletariat didn't just give a reason why. I's just in one ear and out the other.

13:15 EJ: "Hey Luna could you chime in about race?" Luna: [boiler plate liberal perspective about wage differences and stuff, nothing a white lib wouldn't say]
14:50 EJ: "What do you think about saying all white people are racist?" Luna: "I don't agree."
It's pretty funny how this focus on white people is almost exclusively done by white people.
15:00 EJ: [visible frustration] "OK, but doesn't it help knock white people out of their comfort zone?" [everyone ignores this]
16:00 Luna: "I think all white people know about structural racism" Swole & EJ: "Hold up, that's definitely false" Luna: [thinking face]

<18:00 Swole brings up implicit bias to dunk on it (missing the entire point of the discussion)
<20:50 Swole points out that accusing people of racism just makes them angry and less tolerant

22:00 EJ is openly projecting his own experience about being called racist onto everyone else, but then brings up "tall privilege" as an example to defend the concept of privilege instead of responding to criticisms of how people talk about it.
<24:45 Swole reframes the issue as a communication problem, but then immediately moves to the distinction between personal racism and structural racism, and EJ expands with unconcsiou bias vs bigotry
<28:45 Swole brings it back to communication again and says it's better to calmly explain different kinds of racism than to scold working class whites for being "racist."
29:20 EJ diverts to scold Swole for including "triggered feminists" in his video criticizing the scolding tone, "muh poor oppressed people can't be expected to have self control" etc
<31:15-33:30 Swole explains that the individual people in his video were used because they specifically are acting in bad faith.

33:30 EJ picks out the phrase "victim culture" and demands Swole define it, doing the whole "you said the thing right wingers say"
<34:40 Swole cites Peter Coffin and Mark Fisher to debunk this point, and just as he does
EJ immediately starts distracting the audience by fiddling with Swole's video feed, because it's frozen, even though it's been like that for a few minutes already
Now I'm not saying he consciously waited to do this until he wanted to distract people, but I'm pretty sure he noticed it when he did because he stopped paying attention to what Swole was saying or worse was looking for something else to focus on.
35:00 EJ doubts that "identity grifter" is a real thing, and then start a bunch of tech fiddling as soon as Swole tries to answer
At a certain point you start seeing a pattern.

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Brandon Phillips
Brandon Phillips

38:00 EJ says that criticising idpol is just a distraction, and tone polices Swole over making "triggered SJW" clips, comparing it to saying "all white people are racist"
<39:40 Swole ties SJW ideology to neoliberalism and individualism, says that idpol issues are a distraction from class, dividing poor people against each other.
EJ: "there's a lot to unpack here"
41:00 EJ: "Are you a class reductionist?"
<Swole: No. Racism won't go away as soon as the revolution happens.
41:30 EJ: [argues against a position Swole doesn't have] Vietnam, China, and the USSR had racism!
he's channeling Marco Rubio

42:00 Luna compares the discourse to a war and says that focusing on class instead of idpol is like focusing on your enemy bombing you but ignoring their troops
44:20 EJ cums in his pants over the metaphor
This is some real material analysis right here.
<46:00 Swole explains the difference between base and superstructure, and why class is more foundational. He likens capitalism to a spawner in a video game (lel) that will keep producing idpol if you don't take it out.
48:00-51:00 EJ and Luna complain how strong capital is and how we need to build a coalition out of disabled trans women of color.
<51:00 Swole points out they're arguing a question of degree (quantity instead of quality), that people focus on these issues to the exclusion of class.
52:45 EJ: I'm not trying to hit you with a gotcha, but how much are marginalized people allowed to talk about their problems? Why are we as workers allowed to internalize and focus on class oppression while other marginalized people aren't allowed to internalize and focus on their oppression?
So he's missing that those marginalized people are also workers, that class is a fundamentally different thing, and that a material analysis is different from "internalizing oppression" (?), which tells me he's doing this for a liberal audience who doesn't know dick about socialism. These are fundamental mistakes, and he's demonstrated in his other videos that he knows better than this.

58:28 EJ: Why make videos about these issues if you think we shouldn't focus on them?
<Swole: We need to refocus strategy and aim at the right things.
59:00 EJ: [diverts to another topic] If capitalism is the cause of racism, how is in-group racism human nature?
<Swole: The natural behavior isn't the same as racism, capitalism turns it into racism
1:00:15 EJ explains how humans have trouble distinguishing faces of an out-group but they get better with exposure (forgetting Swole made the point earlier that bias can be fought by intermingling)
<1:01:30 Swole points out he made this point already
EJ: [visible confusion]
<Swole explains the point again, that simple fear of the unknown is different from racism (as EJ himself pointed out in the first 15 minutes or so)
1:02:39 EJ: When have leftists weaponized that inappropriately?
<1:02:55 Swole: When you say all white people are racist, you're calling unconscious bias racist.
EJ: "That's talking about structural racism."
Swole is technically wrong on this point, EJ is pointing out an actual (if minor) fault in his argument.
<1:04:05 Swole says the conclusion that all white people are racist is based on unconscious bias studies.
EJ: "But that's fair!" and he links unconscious bias to structural racism, providing support for Swole's argument
So he was being pedantic so he could take credit for making the point that Swole just made, while also disagreeing with it.
<1:04:33 Swole points out how "white people are racist" is Eurocentric because in other places there are other forms of structural racism and unconscious bias
EJ agrees and says a Japanese lefitst might say "all Japanese people are racist."
EJ: I'm totally not defending the expression that all white people are racist, btw
<Swole says if it's a universal trait, why credit it to white people specifically?
EJ: "I'm gonna put a pin in that, because I need to think about it more."
They do not come back to this AFAIK.

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Zachary Cox
Zachary Cox

1:05:50 EJ: When are we allowed to talk about idpol?
<Swole: AGAIN, I'm not saying we can't talk about this, but we need to see class as primary and underpinning these issues.
1:07:00 EJ struggles to spin this for a full minute and can't come up with anything so he just asks Swole to speak for himself.
<1:08:00 Swole My assertion is we have to wake people up to capitalism and class.
1:08:40 EJ: OK so please tell me what you think marginalized people need to do and not do.
<1:08:55 Swole: It's not maginalized people who are the problem, it's whites and white knights.
1:10:00 EJ: So what are white people supposed to do or not do?

<1:10:30 Swole: I think our views of the movement are different. I see more cynical vampires than you do. They suppress class discussion.
EJ: I agree they exist, but are they that prominent?
<Swole: Maybe not now, but for most of the last decade
EJ: But aren't you just talking about liberals?
<Swole: Intersectionality is liberal because they pay lip service to class.
EJ: But is that liberals or leftists.
<Swole: Leftists do this too.
EJ: [sarcastically] "Well I mean anything can happen" [realizes the mask is slipping] "Uh I mean it does happen. I know you're right. It's a problem. I'm not saying it's not a problem."

1:13:30-1:20:00 They go around agreeing with each other about how representation is important. EJ repeatedly says Luna doesn't get enough views on her channel because of racism, and extrapolates that as a general trend.

1:21:45 EJ asks chat question reiterating "why talk about idpol if you think class is important?"
<Swole argues that intersectionality is a tool that's being misused, and that its failure got us Trump.
EJ disagrees
<Swole contrasts Sanders with Clinton - brocialism vs idpol
EJ argues Clinton's 2016 campaign wasn't about "social issues" at all because it didn't work in her "first campaign" (2008? when she race-baited Obama constantly?)
<Swole says idpol is a successful strategy for the right, but not the left.
they move on to other chat questions

1:24:30 EJ asks how to talk about "other forms of oppression"
<Swole: "Capitalism creates and reinforces other forms of oppression."
EJ argues that idpol predates capitalism (which isn't a counterpoint)
<Swole says this is because of class in general, that capitalism is just the current iteration
EJ: "Capitalism needs racism and sexism" Luna: "They develop it to a new level."
<Swole doesn't get to say anything because they move on

1:25:50 EJ: You didn't really answer my question about what oppressed people are allowed to say about their oppression.
<Swole: I'm not saying what people should be allowed to say or not…
EJ: You're talking about optics and effectiveness…
1:26:30 Luna brings up being molested and says it's hurtful for Swoletariat to imply she's using it to gain social capital
<Swole says he's not talking about victims of sex crimes but privileged white feminists using what they learned in in university
EJ: Do you know how rich you are in the global context? "I don't know about that kind of specific purity testing (against rich people) panning out for me…"
Reminder that Johnson is/was a self-described capitalist who was wealthy from a job in marketing.
<1:29:00 Swole: They're fixating on idpol because it makes them special instead of a regular first worlder, and this doesn't represent actual struggles.
EJ: hey let's go to the chat for another question

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Bentley Gonzalez
Bentley Gonzalez

1:29:35 EJ: "You're conflating liberalism with intersectionality."
<Swole: "I'm saying liberalism has adopted intersectionality because they fit well together."
EJ: "OK, I get what you're saying but I don't agree with you." Let's go back to Luna and talk about the Vietnam War.

1:30:15 EJ: The Vietnamese were telling black American soldiers to go fight racism at home instead of fighting the war to help the state that oppresses them racially.
<Swole: Muhammad Ali made the same point. I don't disagree.
EJ: [reflexively strawmans] "So why are you trying to stop people from talking about-" [catches himself] oops don't wanna misrepresent you
<Swole: I'm not talking about this, I'm talking about people fixating on identity at the expense of class consciousness.
Luna: I have all these problems and people tell me I need to focus on class, so why should I listen to them?
[nobody really addresses this]

1:33:20 EJ: So about idpol giving us Trump…
<Swole: I'm blaming the fixation on idpol, not the people
EJ: You're blaming the people who are fixating.
<Swole: I think most of the people fixating are privileged white feminists
EJ: [visible confusion] wait wut I need to "process" this, please continue
<1:34:45 Swole: I'm not saying your problems don't matter, but that they're ultimately caused by capitalism, and you have to deal with them in that way.
EJ & Luna: But that's what we're saying. EJ: It sounds to me like you care too much about White Men. I don't think that's where the revolution will come from. You need to get the people who are really suffering.
He's willfully misconstruing things. Swoletariat already explained that the oppression olympics comes from privileged white people and should be disregarded.
1:37:03 EJ: "The majority of the people if you're speaking globally are oppressed because of their nationality, if they're in a developing country. These are not necessarily class oppression.
This guy's a fucking retard holy shit. I'm disappointed that Swoletariat didn't rip him to shreds over this.

<1:37:55 Swole: The problem with idpol isn't that it includes marginalized people, but that it excludes people who aren't marginalized "enough" like poor whites. That's why Hillary lost.
EJ: but she's a liberal
<Swole: Wokies are doing the same thing.
EJ: Uh I don't disagree, there are white disabled people and stuff
Then they just keep trying to connect Swole's criticisms to liberals and pretend "leftists" don't do this at all.

1:41:30 EJ: "The thing that's really sticking in my craw is the way you're using alt-right aesthetics."
<Swole: I agree the optics maybe an issue, but I'm trying to convince people who think this way, people I know IRL.
EJ: but when you say people "get caught up in their own victimhood," you're talking about people who are dying
<Swole: I can see what you're saying, maybe I should say perceived victimhood (talking about university students and shit)
EJ: OK but the biggest barrier to class solidarity is poor whites not understanding they're on the same side as minorities against capitalism. We need to similarly teach PoC that their problems stem from capitalism.
Luna: [restates the same points]
EJ: Intersectionality is the answer, and you're criticizing liberalism not us
<Swole: Well no, the original concept treats class as just another oppression. When I studied class and capitalism specifically, that was a much more uniting experience forming solidarity with people across all lines because it showed how we're "all on the same team."
EJ: So what are we disagreeing about?

<1:52:30 Swole: Before Sanders and Occupy, we couldn't talk about class and capitalism, just idpol. Now it's coming back.
EJ: well but there were anti-capitalist artists tho, let's look at the chat. they say that you're literally talking about intersectionality. Maybe we should agree to disagree about the definition of intersectionality.

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Camden Roberts
Camden Roberts

<1:55:15 Swole: Peter Coffin talks about this and how there's a tendency to perform shallow wokeness.
EJ: He's talking about toxic behavior, not idpol
<Swole: But people focus on idpol and act toxic instead of addressing capitalism
EJ: Liberals do that
<Swole: so do so-called "leftists"
EJ: Like me
<Swole: like the comments on your Pewdiepie video, and you gave them too much credit

1:58:00 - ten minutes of completely pedantic arguing about pewdiepie
<Swoletariat thinks the EJ was right initially to say that PDP deserves the benefit of the doubt to get better
EJ thinks he was right to walk back his position in response to the comments

2:08:44 EJ thinks Swole is accusing him and thoughtslime of weakness, goes on to defend how revising your position is important and we should allow people to improve and grow
He completely ignores what it means if you apply this logic to pewdiepie.
<2:10:00 Swole says he think's what happened is capitulating to bad faith actors
EJ gets annoyed by this, swears he's not a beta cuck or whatever
<Swole clarifies that he thinks EJ was acting in good faith but the commenters weren't
2:11:10 Luna jumps in to remind EJ that walking back his position was her idea (lmao)
2:12:48 EJ talks about "wanting to protect" marginalized people by giving Pewdiepie the benefit of the doubt, and says intersectionality is when you listen to criticism from marginalized people
Luna compares Swoletariat to Vietnamese men with "toxic masculinity" who think listening to women threatens them

<2:15:00 Swole gives an example of people policing his language like saying "dumb" or "the blacks"
EJ proceeds to argue about microaggressions for 10 minutes and how it's worthwhile to criticize people for using words like "dumb"

2:25:00 EJ draws the video to a close, claiming he has a better idea where Swole is coming from, offers him the last word
<2:26:10 Swole brings anarchism up, asks EJ to watch a doc called Ballad of Blue Skies as an example of IRL anarchy
EJ closes it on an amicable note

All in all it's pretty frustrating. I feel like Swoletariat let the NonCompete duo take the lead when he could have been putting them on the defensive and mounting criticisms of intersectionality. I don't really blame him though, it's a bizarre and stupid subject. I didn't expect much from NonCompete but they seemed to be actively trying to make Swoletariat look bad. It's obvious that they were coming at him with a lot of false preconceptions, at least. In contrast, Swoletariat seemed to be familiar with their position. Ultimately I think they "won" because they succeeded in making it seem like there was little actual difference in their positions or framing of the subjects at hand. They were doing something similar to the "motte & bailey" tactic where you get someone to agree with a basic premise and pull them toward agreeing with other things, like "feminism is equality" turning into "feminism is making sure you have a feminist in a leadership position." In this case they were doing "intersectionality is when you listen to marginalized people" to later turn into "intersectionality is when you see people as a cluster of identities rather than as a worker."

I think this part of the ideology really comes out when Emerican Johnson refers to the global proletariat in the third world as oppressed because of their nationality to the exclusion of class. If he was taking the third-worldist position he would be arguing that it's both. He specifically separated class from the equation even though it's not only the underlying mechanism (the "planet" that other issues orbit, as he put it), but it's also the most direct mechanism by which the majority of the global south is "oppressed" - they are exploited as wage slaves working for globalized capital. Given their language putting class in the same "oppression" category as idpol, I think their fundamental understanding of capitalism is flawed at its core. I don't know about Luna, but Johnson says he came to socialism from liberalism, and it seems like he just incorporated "capitalism is bad" into his existing knowledge of "Societal Problems" without trying to understand how deep capitalism goes and how much it shapes everything.

tl;dr 3/10 shitty discussion
Nobody is particularly good at making arguments (Swoletariat is ok).
The core conflict gets buried under (possibly willful) misinterpretation.
Any time Swoletariat makes a point they don't have an answer for, NonCompete pivots to something else.

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Wyatt Ross
Wyatt Ross

thx user for summarizing that shit for me

Jace Gutierrez
Jace Gutierrez

anarchopac would accuse of swoletariat of harassing.
doubt it she doesn't seem like that kind of person to me

Jaxon Davis
Jaxon Davis

all these textwalls
Imagine actually giving a fuck what these grifters do

Caleb Perry
Caleb Perry

The people who watch the grifters are the same mob who will call your boss to get you fired if you say an ableist slur on twitter.

Wyatt Parker
Wyatt Parker

having a job
using Twitter
ISHYGDDT

Benjamin Gomez
Benjamin Gomez

you don't remember that drama with Unruhe?

Easton Mitchell
Easton Mitchell

Don't you remember the drama with Unruhe
When Unruhe got mad because anarchopac called him out for not understanding Marx. Is that correct or did I over simply it?

Henry Stewart
Henry Stewart

I mean this drama
youtu.be/oSltrojXtXc
youtu.be/NvclxEZ6Mx0

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Levi Edwards
Levi Edwards

Yeah Jason was being a douche.
Swoletariat insn't.

Juan Gutierrez
Juan Gutierrez

Jason's dumb and needs to read theory, but he gets that operating under someone else's framework is a fast track to losing
jason was being a douche
And? Are we supposed to cry now? Niceness never did anything.
she
Jason's grugbrain reaction idpol helps him in these cases. He's too stupid to fall for identity sophistry, he can't follow down the rabbithole of logic. And he's right, upperclass trustfund kiddies have weird sexual identities as a hobby. They're fake.

Same shit in this debate. Idpol is a way for upperclass people to shame lowerclass people, but not feel like they're punching down. The endless tone policing, dismantling of hwyte supremacy, patriarchy, cishet monarchy, etc pisses people off and just confuses the conversation. Bad on Unruhe for not reading, good on unruhe for not being a grifter.

Hunter Bailey
Hunter Bailey

Clarifying that I know Jason wasn't in that last debate, but that idpol is one of the ultimate grifts.

Cooper Clark
Cooper Clark

Upper middle class kiddies playing with gender.
williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/williams-in-the-news/beyond-stereotypes-poverty-in-the-lgbt-community/
Sure.

Matthew Ramirez
Matthew Ramirez

Articles like this have some dumb idea that individual rights supercede community rights. Why not go full ancap if one's individual right is more important than a community's right?

Oliver Reed
Oliver Reed

Poor lgbts existing doesn't mean there aren't trust fund kids wearing those identities as an accessory to deflect criticism of their class position. If anything you should be furious at those people for dominating the discourse and making it seem like they are all there is to being lgbt.

Isaac Allen
Isaac Allen

Article like this believe individual rights are more important than community rights
Where the fuck did you get that from.
Rich trust fund kids wearing identify to avoid criticism.
I've never seen an example of that, feel free to provide one. Even if there is a group of people who do that there such a small minority it doesn't matter.
Wealthy LGBT people dominate the discourse, and make LGBT lives look easy.
That what was the article I linked purpose. Secondly that's true for all minorities and groups, as wealthy people have more time on there hands to participate in discourse. So yes I'm mad at the system itself.

Michael Rivera
Michael Rivera

Idpol is a way for upperclass people to shame lowerclass people, but not feel like they're punching down.
Also to assert dominance over other upper class people in their totally-not-high-school social circles.

If you want to see this mentality in action, watch the Dear White People show. It's unintentionally revealing of this mentality. They didn't realize the movie was ironic, and made an unironic adaptation. It's also really fucking funny how much they whine about progressive anti-racism and anti-homophobia while still being socially conservative in places. The token gay nigga lectures a white bi man about "just accept you're gay and have a normal monogamous relationship like I want to." Shit's hilarious.

I've never seen an example of that, feel free to provide one.
Almost every person who self-identifies as "queer"
Even if there is a group of people who do that there such a small minority it doesn't matter.
They are a loud minority.

Tyler Fisher
Tyler Fisher

where the fuck does it say that
You posted that article as justification that radlibs can tone police everyone they want to. By controlling language and morality, you can control what people argue and disarm them.
upper class people in their totally-not-high-school social circles.
You're absolutely right, and they're trying to relive highschool but want to be the cool kids group this time around.

Alexander Peterson
Alexander Peterson

How does the article control Tone?

Brody Powell
Brody Powell

if you live in Anmerikkka youre not poor sorry kiddo

Eli Johnson
Eli Johnson

Ok, nigger

Gabriel Jones
Gabriel Jones

THE BLOATMAXX NAZBOL GOD HATH SPAKE

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Landon Walker
Landon Walker

celebrating a terrorist attack against workers
Typical Maoist red fascist.

Joshua Brooks
Joshua Brooks

Anime poisons the soul of the proletariat. Unruhe is unironically 100% correct to celebrate an attack on the production of such vile work.

Jacob White
Jacob White

G-Gadsden-fag, p-please calm down about niggers
FUG ANIMAYMAY! GOOK SCRIBLINGS BAD BAD BAD! KILL ALL TIBETAN DRAWING BOARD ARTISTS! KILL! KILL! KILL!
Might confuse you with another Christcom flag, but weren't you the mofo who posted a picture of an anime-style Christ-chan in that post telling me to calm my tits?

Isaiah Hernandez
Isaiah Hernandez

We have 2-5 Christposters, some post more, some less, if anything I believe that one posts less. Don't jump to conclusions every time you see a flag, not everyone tripfags, or namefags.
Anyway, before you niggers keep arguing over this whole fiasco:
JBarg's somehow shittier brother walks back on his claim.
Deflects by saying "Dude what about capitalism." even though he was explicitly mocking the poor capitalist victims of the fire who died due to only one fire exit being built in the whole building.
Guy who lit the fire confirmed schizo, not anti degenerate schizo, just some dude who did it for the lulz
Everyone calls out Roo
Roo fucking backs down
Deletes tweet
Deflects by saying "It was a joke g-guys" and gets shit on even harder
Tries damage controlling with video
Gets bombed immediately
The funny thing is that this fire went fully unnoticed by western media as it was a purely Japanese terror attack, perpetrated by some lone wolf, with only 13 people dead, and as sad as it may be for major media coverage of a terrorist attack in the West, you need to
A. Have 15+ dead in the west, upwards of 50 in everywhere else, which is why stuff like Chinese mass stabbings go unheard.
B. Have the mass shooting be in some popular place like J-wtube HQ.
The most popular video on this shindig had literally only 135k views, the story went unheard of everywhere else.
Roo quite literally could have just made one tweet apologizing and could have moved on, but proceeded to make 30 tweets trying to argue, then dug his grave even deeper, but what can you expect from such a fat autistic cracker like him.
Point being it's over now.
He moved on surprisingly enough and got dislike bombed by everyone except like 400 or so Maoists who either agreed because they're actual Chinese Maoists who consider anime to be propaganda, or boomer tier followers who will support Roo no matter what, leave the man and situation alone before he ends up shooting his town hall then kills himself as an apology online.

Nathaniel Smith
Nathaniel Smith

Firstly I was just baiting the person I replied to; secondly I'm Asian so to claim that there is a racial hatred driving my loathing of anime is pretty stupid and thirdly the very fact that a racist like yourself immediately jumped to defend retarded cartoons merely proves that anime-watchers lean fascist and would be better off in hell rather than continuing to shit up the world even more.

Also Christ-Chan isn't anime if you ever find the original authors I'll fucking eat my shoe if they turn out to be Japanese.

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Camden Williams
Camden Williams

Board-tans are weeb culture

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Cooper James
Cooper James

(You've had enough You's for one day.)148444
sigh.
Looks like you retards can't leave well enough alone.
thirdly the very fact that a racist like yourself immediately jumped to defend retarded cartoons merely proves that anime-watchers lean fascist and would be better off in hell rather than continuing to shit up the world even more.
Is that why fascists constantly push the anime is degenerate, pedophilia inspiring, garbage for trannies while SJW's call it sexist capitalist tract?
Is that also why multiple leftists and right wingers came together to mutually shit on Roo over his tweet, from liberal boomers, to right wingers and other left wingers who weren't Maoists?
inb4 a broken clock is right when I need it to tell me the time I want it to be.
As I see it anime is a non partisan ad hominem bait shat on by libs, conservatives, fascists, and leftists. If you don't like it ok but don't lable it's viewers as anything more than faggots.

Blake Murphy
Blake Murphy

Wait I just realized he was trying to bait the namefag by trying to push the anime narrative and I prematurely took the bait first.
Well that's what I get for only waiting for one person to reply first before I do.

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Mason Long
Mason Long

Implying that I accused you of racial hatred
I didn't. You apparently see 'muh rashism' as the greatest evil to the point that hating people over anything else is inconceivable to you. People hate other people over a million other things than skin color.

I was just making fun of a Christcom flag poster who complained that I'm irrationally hateful. The point is being 'frothing at the mouth'. Not what you're frothing at mouth at.

Defended retarded cartoons
No where in my post did I actually defend the anime studio. You just conjured it up, because your feeble mind literally cannot think of any discussion as having more than two sides.

Racist = fascist
Yep, you literally cannot see any debate as having more than two sides or people disagreeing you over your methodology or praxis. If racist = fascist, then Jack London must be a fascist despite literally complaining about the Black Hundreds because he complained of 'Yellow Peril'. I mean, I criticized both class collaboration and having a centralized dictatorship/one-party state. But, apparently I am an ebil fashit because I hate niggers and scabs, despite a massive portion of the American labor movement actually being like this in the past.

Incidentally, I never watched any of the Tibetan wall scriblings from that company. I mean, I watched Death Note, and that's pretty much exposure to actual anime. Besides that, I pretty much only watched the Abridged series of several anime, and one Chrono Trigger short. Not exactly a straight up weeb record.

I mean, I don't like the fact that someone burned a lot of people over this shit, and being the creative type myself, I can sympathize with these people. Even if the style isn't in my preference.

Ironically, the studio is actually majority female in terms of employees, and actual 4channers are criticizing it for being too feminist. But hey, keep believing that all anime-watchers are fascists despite the other half of the anime fandom being retarded SJW-tier radlib larpers and Jason Urhune actually being one of the few leftists who actually doesn't sperg out at white nationalists and was willing to talk to them in a civil conversation.

M-Muh waifu isn't weeb because a Jap didn't make her
In fact, that makes her even worse. Literal extreme christ-fag /pol/lacks made her. She is made by the very cretin anime-watchers who you want to wipe from the Earth. So, that makes you a colossal fucking hypocrite.

Basically, you turned an attack on 'you' into a defense of anime to aid with your bullshit narrative, all the while proving just how much of a retarded hypocrite you are.

The funny part is…I probably missed the mark and thought you were someone else. Seriously, I was referencing another thread, not trying to 'defend the retarded cartoons'. So, you just pulled a Jason and dug yourself a huge hole, retard.

Follow the example of your messiah and crucify yourself before you get hung with the niggers because your tism-level scores are similar to theirs. Seriously, people like you are the ones who are shitting on the world more than anything.

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Nathaniel Thompson
Nathaniel Thompson

I don't really care, but I just realized this after finally coming back to read all this when I'm tired as fuck. Maybe that was a mistake, but I just dropped a nuclear rant on him. Ironically, his anime-bait didn't even attract me as much as his 'muh raychit/fabshit' crap, which has been the target of my ramblings for the last few weeks.

Maybe, I shouldn't have fed the trolls. Seriously though, fuck Christcom flagposters. They're all retards who deserve the noose.

Jeremiah Sanders
Jeremiah Sanders

Yeah he got us good, I'll give him that, 4 different people fell for it.
If I recall correctly back during like last fall it was pointed out that Christcoms were the most autistic posters on the board during s time when like 3 of them were around regularly, not the stupidest but definetly the most autistic. Probably best not to reply to em' next time unless it's a purely economic argument.

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Sebastian Ward
Sebastian Ward

Is that why fascists constantly push the anime is degenerate, pedophilia inspiring, garbage for trannies
Yes I'm sure that's why /a/ is one of the most popular boards on this entire forum. Because fascists don't ever watch anime and aren't interested in anime. Pffft. Everyone knows fascists lie. How is it a surprise that the most vehement rants about d.egeneracy are flat out contradicted by their actions? Don't even get me started on their interracial or cuck porn fetish. Part of being active in politics is separating rhetoric from reality. Unfortunately it seems like you took /pol/ at their word and never really bothered to actually use some common sense.

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Tyler Robinson
Tyler Robinson

I didn't [accuse you of racial hatred].
No all you did was greentext parody me and drop a casual racial slur, thus implying that somehow racial prejudice was a factor. Not my fault that your racism infects literally everything you do, or that your grasp of your own native language is so shit you can't even properly convey your meaning in a post without being misleading.
The point is being 'frothing at the mouth'. Not what you're frothing at mouth at.
So two bland sentences made in jest is "frothing at the mouth". Why is it that every /pol/tard is so fucking dumb?
You just conjured it up, because your feeble mind literally cannot think of any discussion as having more than two sides.
<I-I-I don't care about anime that is why my response included a parody greentext making fun of dislike for anime!
Yeah ok whatever you tell yourself lmao. If your argument was that I was being hypocritical for telling you to not be a racist while calmly advocating for the abolition of anime you could have just made that post. You'd still look stupid and incapable of simple logic but at least you wouldn't be a cartoon lover.
Racist = fascist
Now who's conjuring shit up? I never said that. I accused you of being a fascist, sure, but that is because I have seen your posts before and have enough experience with your drivel to label you as one.
She is made by the very cretin anime-watchers who you want to wipe from the Earth. So, that makes you a colossal fucking hypocrite.
Memes aren't anyone's property, and, as has been stated before, this meme in particular is not even anime.

I'm disgusted that you even got a response out of me. You're so delusional it is honestly painful. I can snatch literally any phrase in your rant and poke it full of holes.

I mean who honestly thinks this:

because I hate niggers and scabs, despite a massive portion of the American labor movement actually being like this in the past.

Is a good argument or even logical? For one it associates an entire race with a role in class society that can be carried out by anyone of any race. Bill Clinton scabbed before he became president, you don't see me calling for mass deportations of white people. For another it assumes that an appeal to tradition is in and of itself a valid argument. There's so much compounded stupidity built into your post that I actually feel sorry for you that you can think yourself a reasonable and intelligent person.

Jack Hughes
Jack Hughes

I'm Christian, I just generally agree with the rest of your ideas

Andrew Lopez
Andrew Lopez

is that why /a/ is le popular?
Everyone on Zig Forums is a fascist.
Assuming that's true, then why are you here? Leave.

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Alexander Gomez
Alexander Gomez

Everyone on Zig Forums is a fascist.
No, just the majority.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT JUST LEAVE AND LET ME HAVE MY HUGBOX
Fuck off Trump. I used to be on /leftypol/ before the BO started mass perma-banning anyone who didn't agree 100% with him. You aren't even a regular on this board.

Zachary Perry
Zachary Perry

No, just the majority
Have you ever been outside of /pol/ and /leftypol/? You can argue they're 50% conservatives but out right fascists no way, at this point it'd be blatant denial-ism if you refuse to see multiple posts on /x/, /co/, /v/, /lit/, etc all telling political posters to fuck off, and refuse to see boards like /liberty/ or /islam/, there's no way a niche board like /a/ is filled with fascists.
Fuck off Trump.
Legitimately the worst insult I've ever heard, try "Your mom xD" next time.
I used to be on /leftypol/ before BO began perma banning anyone who didn't agree with him
So did I. Difference is I was never banned I willingly left that shithole.
You aren't even a regular on this board.
I've been here since the start and began consistently posting with the YouTube flag for 2/3rds probably more of it's current life, but that's the lowest estimate, I literally made 4 posts when no one else did yesterday. You cannot tell me a blatant lie like that to my face in an argument like this and expect me to take you seriously. I'm done replying now, enjoy your last (You) since by now I doubt anyone else is dumb enough to continue this up.

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Jason Miller
Jason Miller

Have you ever been outside of /pol/ and /leftypol/?
Yes. I have been on /liberty/ /tv/ /v/ and assorted christian boards.
What about /liberty/ and *insert x board here*
I said the majority of people on the site are fascists, not all. Are you going to point to every board populated by less than half a dozen people to """"prove"""" a point you mongoloid?
you refuse to see multiple posts on /x/, /co/, /v/, /lit/, etc all telling political posters to fuck off
Now you're just being disingenuous but I suppose that's par for the course. The "no politics" rule for the more active boards is just to contain /leftypol/. All the /pol/ rhetoric and shitflinging gets ignored. I bet you anything that I can go on /tv/ right fucking now and find at least 5 posts bitching and moaning about jooz, feminism, "anti white bias" and whatever the fuck else. FFS I still remember back when I tried to lurk on one of the """Christian""" boards a thread was created by some /pol/tard talking about how academia was completely controlled by the left and universities were marxist indoctrination centers and it was only deleted when I came into the thread and started making him look bad because it was obvious that he had never set foot in a university in his entire life. Before that though he had a couple hours of free reign to have people chime in to agree with him; god forbid the mods actually try being neutral and not blatantly suck off their fellow /pol/ brethren.
Anyone who is dumb enough to think that "no politics" rule is extended to /pol/ rhetoric is a useful idiot or just a /pol/tard pretending like the mods on the other boards aren't blatant sympathizers.
Difference is I was never banned I willingly left that shithole.
Sorry is that supposed to be a mark in your favor? That just means either you were such a fucking coward you hid your true political opinions to not get banned when the /BO/ became autistic or you were never on the left in the first place so you couldn't stand posting there. For you it's probably both.

Dylan Brown
Dylan Brown

Legitimately the worst insult I've ever heard
I called you Trump because your eye queue is so low that, like a boomer MAGAtard or orange cheeto himself, you think that "like it or leave it" is an actual argument. Unfortunate that you couldn't even comprehend that it was a comparison meant to draw attention to how stupid your rhetoric was and was not an insult based on name recognition. Shame on me for assuming someone who saves gifs of fucking JonTron and believes /pol/ at their word possesses a brain.

Asher Bell
Asher Bell

Now you're just being disingenuous but I suppose that's par for the course. The "no politics" rule for the more active boards is just to contain /leftypol/. All the /pol/ rhetoric and shitflinging gets ignored. I bet you anything that I can go on /tv/ right fucking now and find at least 5 posts bitching and moaning about jooz, feminism, "anti white bias" and whatever the fuck else.
That's true, but other poster's absolutely right about increasing numbers of people telling /pol/yps to fuck off without being swarmed, and sometimes even being backed up by others who are tired of /pol/'s autism.

Some in addition to myself have also increasingly been able to make explicitly left-wing or socialist responses without threads getting totally derailed.

It's slow, and I'm far from confident things will ever return to the good old days of amoral trolls shitting on "carefags" of all types, but the tide is definitely turning.

Bentley Jackson
Bentley Jackson

Maybe you should stop posting your commie shit on non-political boards, retard, not everyone wants to read this constantly. Kill yourself

Lincoln Thomas
Lincoln Thomas

stop posting your commie shit on non-political boards
I don't go around gratuitously propagandizing other boards, but if somebody brings /pol/lution into an otherwise decent thread, I'm going to mock it.

Start shit, get hit.

Grayson Hernandez
Grayson Hernandez

Be careful the abyss stares back

Joseph Ward
Joseph Ward

MEIN GOTT HE REALLY DID THAT
NonCompete invited Black red guard to livestream.
youtu.be/WVL5xiyeiWQ
And he isn't even disagreeing with him there.

Then he invited him to another to debate some black member of DSA. That stream is just Black red guard trying to convince that "wypipo inherently evil".
youtu.be/85wJjPTDS80

Also, BadMouse has probably gone full blown sakaist, too.
Not only that he deepthroated Black red guard's cock in one of his videos. But he also collaborated with Red menace podcast (where one of the co hosts is also sakaist) on his last video.

So the idpolistas are becoming sakaists. Color me surprised.

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Jordan Wilson
Jordan Wilson

Interesting blog post about who in reality is Black red guard
medium.com/@drakeberkman/resolving-my-position-in-the-communist-movement-f09d6c78360d

Camden Rogers
Camden Rogers

Let it be known that if you follow the "black people know better than me because of lived experience" dogma, you are inevitably going to to end up with this Sakaist shit or something similar, because you don't think you're allowed to argue with colored people. Sakaists and such absolutely love whiteys like that because it means somebody will listen to them for once instead of pointing out their genetic determinism is bullshit.

This is what white guilt gets you.

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Cameron Smith
Cameron Smith

47:39
Wypipo need to focus on not being nazis or cops
they need to do this under our leadership because every time wypipo organize by themselves they are reactionary
wew that mask is all the way off

Michael Evans
Michael Evans

lol yeah, that part is brilliant. I think Non compete was also shocked.
But this is just logic conclusion from "Settlers"

Gabriel Rogers
Gabriel Rogers

The bit right after where he says "wypipo never organize PoC because we don't follow wypipo" is pretty rich too. You really can't do this racism bit without essentializing yourself too.

Elijah Wilson
Elijah Wilson

holy shit lmao

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Isaiah Clark
Isaiah Clark

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Christopher Ramirez
Christopher Ramirez

sakaist
Never heard of the term please explain.

Zachary Thompson
Zachary Thompson

read settlers

Jason Evans
Jason Evans

white genocide but unironically

Anthony Ross
Anthony Ross

fucking lmao I thought white genocide twitter posts were a /pol/ thing to cry about not you niggas

Connor Roberts
Connor Roberts

Revolution is the first order of business, friendships aren’t even on the agenda.
medium.com

Nathaniel Williams
Nathaniel Williams

the typical boiler plate corny ass unoriginal commy faggot thing of photoshoping a red star or hammer and sickle on a cartoon character. So embarrassingly lame.

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Angel Wood
Angel Wood

fifty years ago they used to have to bribe or blackmail people into betraying the left, now they just do it for ideology and internet points

Elijah Stewart
Elijah Stewart

Thoughts?

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Hudson Bailey
Hudson Bailey

Cuck philosophy
He's a lot more libertarian, put him in the center left libertarian quadrant
Sargon
Put him with Steven Crowder
Chris Ray gun
Flip him over to the libertarian left
Rubin
Put him slightly left of molyneux
Black pigeon speaks
Put him all the way up the authoritarian end, the dudes practically a nazi

Maybe some minor changes after that, other than that looks good.

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