Think about it, if vaccines actually work, all the vaccinated people will be totally fine and never get sick, and all the people who didn't get vaccinated will all simply get sick or die. If people who are vaccinated are afraid of those who did not vaccinate, then vaccines must not actually do anything.
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Angel Nguyen
toddlers too young to be vaccinated can die from contact with older unvaccinated carriers of diseases. You're welcome, Moshe.
Nathan Lopez
Dylan Jackson
Oh they do something all right, they just don't actually protect against the diseases they claim to.
This is the biggest load of horseshit I have ever heard, Hymie.
Nicholas Cruz
Or die from viruses they've contracted from vaccinated people who are currently undergoing viral shedding which happens all the time with live virus vaccines.
Vaxxers are becoming some of the most disgusting fear mongers of the modern day who ironically play a large role in modern viral outbreaks.
Andrew Jackson
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Benjamin Davis
That'd be true if everyone could be vaccinated. If someone has a latex allergy or are immune compromised then they are suggested not to get vaccinated unless it's the nasal spray for the former. People care because if those individuals come in contact with the virus they will not be protected like any other vaccinated person would be.
Herd immunity depends on the herd immunity threshold (HIT) calculated for a specific virus or bacteria. If we get the number of the people vaccinated for a particular disease to the HIT, then those who are not vaccinated have a much greater chance of living.
Thanks to anti-vaxxers we are now seeing outbreaks of diseases which we had under control for decades. While I believe it should be completely fine to say whatever unsourced crap you want to, it should be law that everyone that can be vaccinated should be vaccinated unless there is a medical issue barring them from doing so.
The good outweighs the bad for vaccines, if you are paranoid about what is in a particular vaccine you could always read up on it and understand the immune system.
kek
In some rare cases for live vaccines, such as oral polio vaccine, you can have it mutate while in vivo and cause paralytic polio, due to this vaccine manufacturers have moved away from using a live attenuated virus for the polio vaccine; instead they use an inactivated one.
Since vaccines don't bankrupt you to obtain them, have a high fidelity, and complications are usually mild and rare even at that, what would you prefer instead to prevent contagious diseases?
Robert Gutierrez
Given over seventy two million dollars has been paid in compensation for vaccine injuries since the beginning of 2019 it's getting harder to believe the bullshit you're spreading.
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I'll stay away from the seemingly endless anecdotes too but I've argued with people like you many times before, we both know neither of us will change each others minds. The difference is, if people like you get your way then everyone else is to be injected with poison by force under the fraud that we're essentially living in the time of the bubonic plague and only vaccines are keeping us from total oblivion. I find that to be nothing short of evil.
Whereas I see humans and every other species having done pretty well without something invented only decades ago and would attribute the decline in disease from vastly improved hygiene and living standards.
God forbid questioning something like the wholesale import of third world maybe playing a role in any increase in the spreading of diseases too.
Jordan Miller
You've pointed out that there are repercussions for creating vaccines that cause harm or have undesirable side effects, that's probably why the vaccine industry that makes them tries to reduce those incidences.
It's the conclusion we came to using evidence. If you don't want to believe that you're doing yourself a disservice instead of challenging the claims I made using your own evidence.
That's not the point, if you came to me with credible evidence or I found it on my own I would use that to understand what the most parsimonious answer is even if it's not complete or something I personally like.
You seem to be very critical of a tried and tested method for disease prevention. Humanity has improved vaccines to be less harmful and maximize benefits. As long as regulatory bodies exist that test and make sure vaccines are safe then arguing otherwise would be disingenuous.
With the exception of a few diseases, many don't kill (too many) of their hosts rapidly enough to cause wide spread death or cause permanent debilitation. Usually the people who die from contagious diseases are old, newborn, or immune compromised. Killing or debilitating your host isn't the best for proliferating and passing on the genetic material necessary to continue that particular form of life, however, due to random mutation it can happen. To prevent disease, permanent bodily damage, and death from any contagious disease, including the ones with a lower mortality rate, we vaccinate. Rarely do we get a disease like the bubonic plague or Spanish flu that kills a large percentage of a population, but just in case we also have a vaccine for those as well.
As we create vaccines, we don't halt natural selection. It's also possible for diseases to reemerge once they are (knowingly) wiped out. This is why we have to study how diseases spread and the most efficient methods for preventing them. More effective and safer vaccines are within this field of study, which is why vaccines, like any field in science, usually is going to be the best answer at our disposal for dealing with contagious disease.
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I disagree, but I guess I should just get used to certain contagious disease death rates climbing back to pre-vaccine levels seeing as you don't want to vaccinate over your misplaced fear.
Interesting hypothesis, now you just need to test it and back it with evidence. While those factors definitely helped prevent the spread of contagious disease within communities, vaccines played a direct role in reducing the amount of death that occurred during outbreaks of specific diseases.
Another great hypothesis, test it and back it up and the scientific community will ravage your paper's asshole about it, however, if it's sound science it will probably get through the peer review process and be accepted as such once other pieces of literature (by you or others) recreate and support your claims.
Parker Ortiz
Vaccines aren't regulated the way other drugs are. You don't know what they're putting into them and they don't need to be critically examined. Basically everything you're saying Vaccines do is unsupported by the evidence because what vaccines are is intentionally obscured.