LATE CAPITALISM THREAD 2: petty bourgeois edition

So you can taste human progress: THANK YOU SCIENCe

Let me make sure i got this straight. You don't want to order pizza from your shoes?

Tbh?
Homosexuality, Transexuality, lgbt and the unwillingness of anyone to discuss or contest their postions and ideas.
Seriously, It's hard for me to understand why even in a relativley idpol free space such as this, contesting pseudo science is considered "reactionary" or Nazbol.
You can be the reincarnation of lenin, but contesting this shit will get you banned.
At the same time unironic cntrolled opposition such as trots or even leftcoms and even nazis who argue in good faith are accepted.
Even fucking egotist, which I never understood why they are here in the first place or have anything to do with the left since their entire ideology revolves around a satire of other ideologies, are accepted.
Making an argument against homosexuality tho…

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Clicked sage instead of spoiler.
It's not like anyone is browsing a chan at work tho

I mean, if the show fits.
You're the one who posted tranny porn. Sad.

Nice argument, should I post anime next time?
Give me an explanation on why only reactionaries or faggots can be against homosexuality?

nah i dont really care i just think its interesting how you guys always have files full of pictures of the thing you supposedly hate it's not like someone made you go look for that stuff

Comrade Xi would not tolerate that golf course existing.

I took out of Google just to post the average tranny. I always find funny how homosexual such as yourself do not make arguments instead of pointing out irrelevant shit

were you dropped on your head as a child? what the fuck is an 'argument against homosexuality'?
letting everyone know your aesthetic tastes is all well and good but its your business of literally no relation to anyone else, certainly not political economy.
In fact since you're the one with trannies saved on your hard drive i'd hazard a guess that you just fucking love seeking out this nightmare fuel precisely because it fuels the outrage, indignation and visceral disgust you get off on as if it was of any significance. grow up tbqh

This thread took a weird turn

You are a good guy

That the homosexual lifestyle is the life style of the bourgeois, that uranian liberation is strongly connected with liberalism and "the liberation of the flesh" is sympthom of bourgeois decadence, that homosexual liberation is pushed by people like soros who also brought down the socialist states through these movments, that transexuality is just an excuse for the big pharma to sell them pills, that all the gender theories that caused the acceptance of these illness were pushed by the same controlled opposition that criticized the USSR.
There are many arguments that no one is willing to listen.
Nor is Freudian analysis, but it's well accepted on here
I have "baby boss" and the whole discography of the who in the download folder too, doesn't mean I enjoy them.
I bet you have some fascist or rick an morty memes in your folder, are do you enjoy or agree with those things?

Always good to see the soul of ☭TANKIE☭s still running strong .

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how can you speak of a homosexual 'lifestyle'? I doubt there is any quality which unites the way all homosexuals live anymore than there is one quality which unites the way all heterosexuals live. Moreover in a bourgeois society all 'lifestyles' are tinted with bourgeois decadence, that is the nature of class society whereby the ruling ideas (and by that, 'lifestyles') are that of the ruling class.
yes, undoubtedly identity politics and non-class based 'liberation' movements are in a large majority of cases fundamentally liberal in nature. However i don't see the connection with homosexuality in the slightest. The proletarian movement scorns feminism and 'womens' liberation' as liberal without rejecting women as liberal or bourgeois. There is no reason to do so with homosexuals.
this is too vague.
soros also eats breakfast every morning, ought it be the duty of every proletarian to abstain from such deviancy then? I'm gonna need some sources on homosexual liberation being the cause of the downfall of the eastern bloc btw.
Once again here opposition to sexual-idpol does not mean opposition to sexualities. we can oppose white nationalism without wanting hating white people, we can oppose black nationalism without hating black people. When we perceive that an idpol movement is acting in bourgeois class interests and is of bourgeois class character this means opposition to that movement and its activities insofar as they oppose the class interests of the proletariat.
undoubtedly it is an excuse but i doubt it is 'just' an excuse. I'm going to need some strong evidence in favour of the view that transexuality in fact doesn't exist and is manufactured by the pharmaceutical industry. We might as well say hunger is just an excuse for big agriculture to sell food.
i'm going to need some evidence here as well. I'd also want to point out how ridiculous the idea that a theory is wrong if it came from anti-soviet sources is. Must we now oppose all scientific theories which originate in the west and from critics of the ussr as 'bourgeois science'?

Freudian analysis is almost always off-topic and in the /leftytrash/ thread where (you) too belong, moreover there are concrete theoretical bodies of work tying together freudian analysis of society and marxism into a coherent view of bourgeois society, particularly in the realm of ideology. You finding gays icky is not comparable to freudianism fam.
i don't actually :^) but feel free to post more of your irrational justifications for why gays are bad because they make you feel bad

what's wrong with a golf course?

They no longer can legally bar Groucho from joining.

Aw, man. Someone already made this? I had this very same idea some weeks ago and was gonna start a kickstarter for it!

Every "lifestyle" is bourgeois, you cretin. The majority of homosexuals on Earth don't have a "homosexual lifestyle".
also,

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hmmm

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I don't think you know what that word means, user
breddy sure transexuality predates modern medicine too, and even modern medical treatment for it has been around slightly longer than the "gender theory" crap you're complaining about iirc. While the general increase of public acceptance of trannies might cause a small handful of random idpol weirdos to try to use it for snowflake points, those types rarely actually seek any sort of permanent medical treatment and just get stupid haircuts while calling themselves "genderqueer" for a few months until they get bored of it.
You got a problem with Zizek, bub?

this

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I'd take a nazi in good faith over a spooked nazbol cuck whos only argument agasint gays is "they're icky"

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Please consider offing yourself.

golf is unironically bourgeois

It's kinda cold where I live right now, so thank you for the heat source provided by that very hot take.

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is it bad if I'm a little disappointed that such a large portion of leftists online are severely mentally ill and also ugly
theres nothing wrong with those things, but the prevalence of unhealthy and ugly, out of shape leftists is sure to send a bad image to anyone on the fence

"Social" conservatives are the cancer of this board
Purge when?

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What? Homosexuality not being a mental illness is based on the generally accepted criterion for what a mental illness is. The vast majority of opposition to it is rooted in feefees or heterodox psychology. The political motives were in adding it to the DSM to begin with, not its removal; most psychiatrists did not believe it was a mental illness by that point. Trannies being mentally ill is also not in conflict with their lifestyles, Tumblr postmodernism has nothing to do with clinical psychiatry.
And no, pictures of ugly people are not an argument.

If it's any consolation Zig Forumsyps are also incredibly unhealthy and ugly if not imageboard users in general. I'd call it good praxis though if the severely ugly/unhealthy lefty/pol/yps would just refrain from posting any pictures of themselves until they learn how to fashion or basic hygiene.

Quit being spooked, nerd

that was a pretty fair consolation
not to be centrist lmao, but it seems like online communities of political "extremes" are full of malnourished, pale from lack of sunlight, out of shape ass people
reminder that anyone able-bodied who wants to smash fash, better be in shape

this newfag "converted" Zig Forumsack shitposting really needs to get ended, it's spamming up the board

posts like should just be copy pasted into a summery for a standard issue reply before bumplock and ban

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How do we counteract the petty booj douchebags that cling to what they believe as “provable science” when the majority of it is capitalist bullshit?

Good to see communists showing their actual colors for once.

The will of the state in the US is imperialism and wasting tax dollars on bombs instead of shit like education or infrastructure. You submit to that all the time. There is no difference between domination of "government" or a private company.

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Wasn't social.conservative filtered?

That's interesting, do you know where I can read about it?

This.

By sending them to papers like those. It won't be easy however. The cult of the "experts" is nothing more than th enew priesthood. We often say so speaking of mainstream economists, but unfortunately it's true for all sciences.

The expert psychologist is used to convince us our mental issues can be commidified, the expert physicians is used to convince us our physical issues can be commodified, the expert criminologist is used to convince us our social issues can be commodified, the expert biologist is used to convince us our physiology can be commodified, the expert sociologist is used to convince us our beliefs can be commodified.

And of course if you manage to turn something into a commodity, capital has already won. It's the oldest trick in the book: reduce a complex problem to one you already solved in the past. If something can be bought and sold, the market will "take care of it", any protest against the practise, no matter its nature, can now be generalized to a critique of the very fabric of capitalist society, which is of course something capital can aim the state against.

You find the idea of patenting people's DNA without their knowledge or consent and then selling it disgusting? Why it's a commodity, a voluntary transaction, do you have something against exchange? Against society?

(This is something actually happening, by the way. Don't use those "find your ancestry" sites, this is where they make the bulk of their money)

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Socially conzervatibe
actually reactionary
Socially
Conservative

that was a good day

No one is stopping you from disassociating with any of these people in socialism or communism. Hell, I personally think that a large portion of the "transsexual" population are just a product of capitalist alienation and identity crisis and that gender doesn't even exist, just sex, but I'm not calling for executions or gulags. I do see these people as a product of society though, so I might advise these people to get help and/or continue to state my own opinions on it.

Does that mean attractive or well dressed comrades have a duty to post more?

This board… I’d say their both worse but it isn’t even true. Nazis were and Magatards are brutally anti-leftist, even burger right-wingers aren’t reactionary enough for them. The Nazis killed more leftists and trade unionists than probably anyone else in addition to the millions of “subhumans” they genocides

Comparing a Nazi to a socially c.onservative who admires the USSR or a deluded reactionary prole who admires communist experiments is no contest. I’d take the latter two anytime

*even burger right-wingers and Magatards

That image makes me want to puke

Lenin decriminalized homosexuality dumbass

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Not a duty but "normal" looking lefties should try to be more visible. Mexie is the best internet leftist for precisely this reason. Sure she's high on idpol, but by putting her decent looking face in every single one of her thumbnails, basically saying "hello I'm a leftist and I don't look like a cross dressing Suicide Girl," she's doing more for leftism than anyone on this board. Call me a crypto-reactionary, but I'm right.

tbh, they did remove a golf course near where I live but in so doing they took down a ton of mature trees.

If you shadows write my content, I'll push twitter shitt

Shadowwrite*

Not that guy, but while he did, Lenin only did so due to already existing pressure and it was more just letting the old laws expire. Lenin in life was quite "actually reactionary" when it came to the issue of relationships.

Word filter didn't cross my mind when I typed that, honestly forgot about it. You know what I meant.

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That kind of shit is far too common here. America is a lost cause. Just let it die.

No one ever stops to think that maybe this is still just early capitalism

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What the fuck.

L-look at you leftists, trying to justify your failed ideology with emotional appeals. W-we are rational, I swear!

Science was born of philosophy, and at some point it's certain branches claimed people came into this world with souls of various metals, that humans ascended from birds or that pregnancies wandered around the whole body of a pregnant woman.

Church of scientology v.2 when?

The absolute state of ☭TANKIE☭s.

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Interesting point, comrade. Hadn’t considered that before.

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Lgbt people have existed before any economic/societal structure and are not bourgeoisie.

cnn.com/2015/12/15/asia/china-canadian-company-selling-clean-air/index.html

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Are dead malls and ghost towns not the epitome of late stage capitalism?

youtu.be/_8awCKdJVag

I'm addicted to this series btw

youtu.be/mOlffr73fuM

youtu.be/5lVRgUOV-Xo

youtu.be/lGXzE-V61qw

This guy does a good job too

youtu.be/VJst6zMG5qI

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PRUIT IGORE INTENSIFIES

Porky Isaac Larian is crowd funding to save Toys R US from bankruptcy. Here are the rewards from the GoFundMe

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That's a fucking joke, right?

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Nope.
The webpage is dead, but you can find people selling that shit elsewhere.

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tfw benevolent capitalism

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Amerifats and their home ownership obsession will be studied by future socialist societies as a classic example of the contradictions inherent to capitalism. Mark my words.

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first two are NYT, last two are by me and are more LSC general than petit bourg

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thought this was an exaggeration but googled it and lol it's real
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2220018/

kill me, bring the nukes, I'm ready

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I meant in a discussion,
also you cut out my statement, if he cant argue against homos with anything more than "eww" hes a waste of space.

That isn't the biggest rub. Isaac Larian runs a 2 billion dollar toy manufacturing company yet wants others to pay for him buying Toys R US.

I could not believe it myself, but then we were already selling blood and organs, I guess selling genetic code is just the next step in the commodification of the human being.

Call me when we start patenting brain patterns so that companies can imprint the "right" mindset on their employees

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Jesus WHYYYY!

I’ve seen that doll everywhere lately. What is it?

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The problem with this is that there must be a tacit distinction between socialist beauty and capitalist/liberal decadence. Capitalism has mutated and corrupted the conception of femininity, which in turn was mutated and corrupted by traditionalism before that.
What consists of metaphysical interpretations of femininity at this point in capitalism are repulsive, absolutely loathsome. It glorifies the worst sentiments that human heart can have and manifest within its body and outwards onto society; decadence, conceit, chauvinism, anti-egalitarianism, individualism: a corruption so deep that it cannot accept any higher life principle other than the emancipation of the self: the ideology of liberalism.
However, liberal women aren’t all there is to the corruption of femininity, the rightist conception of femininity may be even worse. Tradition, submission, docility, I can’t think of anything more un-Marxist.
In order to reform such a conception by bringing it under a Marxist influence, we have to follow tacitly understood rules.
Of course, there exist many other rules for men, however this is for another time.

I liked were you were going, but this is retarded. The concept of proletariat today isn't the same at the time of mao ecc.