"IT WASN'T REAL CAPITALISM"

How is this autism countered? If someone is truly dumb enough to think America is under socialism what can you do? Ignore them? This retard has 220K subs

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was there ever a point in history in which no taxes existed?

Even socialism has taxes, being anti-tax is literally being anti-civilization, but none of them realize this.

It has probably existed in one form another, like tribute

Capitalism couldn't exist without military support. No Royal Navy, no capitalism. No American Navy/Air Force, no capitalism.

this same argument is used by liberals to justify a higher sales tax without touching the income or corporate tax

But there were taxes and regulations in the guilded age.

Also, I'd honestly just ask why he wants to bring the guilded age back. Shit was terrible back then.

no shit taxes under capitalism are shit and don't make sense, that's the flaw of capitalism, not of taxes

who fucking wants capitalism lol

To understand socialism, you must first understand capitalism. That’s fundamentally why most pro caps don’t understand socialism. It’s because they don’t understand capitalism. There is a difference between “not real socialism” vs “not real capitalism”. Not real socialism is more specific and grounded in reality. They don’t say not real socialism because the society isn’t “equal” or that the “government didn’t do it”. Both of those assertions would get you laughed out of leftist circles. Equality is abstract. Believing that what ever the government does is socialism would mean supporting capitalism and the protection of it. Socialists recognized the overlap between state bureaucracies and corporations. “Not real capitalism” does on the other hand think like this. Voluntary trade is not capitalism. Voluntary is abstract while trade is nothing unique to capitalism. It only sees things in a metaphysical binary. The only way to beat pro capitalists is to bring them to reality. Dismiss “voluntary” to be meaningless. Saying we achieved communism because two inmates are in a prison cell is just as ridiculous as believing the two inmates are in capitalism free because they have a choice to read, do jumping jacks and choose not to eat certain foods they give you. Capitalism is a real historical material thing that is beyond the individual’s control or perception of it. What makes socialism is through changes of material conditions. What doesn’t make socialism is perceiving it through your mind. Capitalists in the other hand see capitalism as immaterial. The free market is just an immaterial philosophy applied to economics.

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