Plz don't bully Otto

Those are all good points, I never meant to say that capitalists should be allowed to run rampant on the people just because they are from the same country, I would disagree that mindset completely


I see what you're getting at, it makes sense

i don't hate him, but i'm not really sure about him. he said a lot of things i could agree with, but if he was sincere he would have joined the kpd or uspd instead of the damn nsdap. everyone could see what the nsdap was up to in their first program already and they were basically run by a number of oligarchs, including germany's most influential media mogul of the time, by the mid 20s. what's more, in the 1930s Asser dumped all his socialist views and became a full class cuck/opportunist.

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not in germany though. it kind of started here as a patriotic grassroots movement against napoleon. i think from then on the ruling class(es) exploited and used it to control and push public opinion in favour of wars and reactionary politics.

I'm not really talking about how it started, but how and why it was fostered into what it became. Some degree of patriotism against invaders did exist, but it wasn't untill the workers started organizing against the capitalists that it became necessary to push class-collaboration through nationalism.

This. I’m an ex-Strasserist

What were you before conversion? What won you over? I've felt like I've been on a leftward drift for sometime now

So were plenty of other important leftists like Bakunin, Proudhon, etc. Even Marx was a bit of a self hating Jew, and the USSR was antisemitic as fuck.

t. A guy who actually read Germany Tomorrow
Otto was a democratic socialist.
He did not believe in private property.
He was disillusioned with social democracy after a social democrat group he was with put down a labor strike. This happened when he was very young.
Well since we know he certainly was not a fascist in the economical sense, I suppose that leaves only the political aspect of crypto-fascism.
He denounced state socialism.
He denounced militarism, commenting that the “Irresistable urge to die” that tantalized fascists during this time should be resisted.
I’m not a Asserite by any means but he really wasn’t that bad.
I guess his new followers (all ten of them) are crypto-fascist, but that’s only because they became a Asserite after they read the Wikipedia page and went “Nazism AND Communism? Sign me up!”

I'm also an ex-strasser. You likely still hold some spooky nationalism and possibly anti-semitism disguised along with muh hwite babbies.

The revolution must be Global. Workers all over must work together rather then German workers against Polish or French workers cause muh ancient territory, Nationalism is pushed as an anti-worker solidarity stratagy and most of all has no basis in Materialism, if a reason you are gonna go against international worker control of society and the abolishment of the State is because you stil think being born into the same land and speaking the same language somehow makes you superior to others or worth putting German interests over Worker interests then you're still classcucked or love ghosts since Class is a reality and the Nation is a made up arbitrary thing which spawned out of property rights and feudalism.

His pendulum of history theory is also stupid, people don't just arbitrarily become left or right wing because they were the opposite 50 years ago. Material conditions aka what is around you, define you as a Person rather than what tongue you speak. If you don't feel closer to a Black Marxist worker then a factory owning neo-imperialist because one has a lighter skin colour and a different accent something went wrong or your still judging people based on bullshit. Judge people on their self, their actions and class consciousness rather then their Colour. Give Thomas Sankara a Google search and tell me a Society full of people both White and Black like him would be bad because muh multiculturalism.

In my Asser days i was just yet to read theory and didn't believe multiculturalism would ever work because cultures clash when the truth was Classes clash. Racism and such are tools used against us to divide us into hating eachother.

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