Palestinians say over a dozen killed in Gaza border protest
Someday we will get to eradicate every non-native Israeli citizen and their precious state in one go. I hope the Palestinians can survive until then.
— Zeev Sternhell, Jewish historian, expert on Fascism
Uh? Most Israelis were born in Israel, you know.
Open Borders For Israel
woah this is so edgy and provocative, you must be some sort of intellectual powerhouse
Seriously? Open Border for Israel is edgy and provocative?
Descendants of Europeans need to get the fuck out and surrender their assets to the Palestinians before doing so. Otherwise they should be unironically slaughtered.
How is this not ethnic cleansing? How and whereto are you going to deport millions of Israelis?
Israel's share of Jewish population is lower than America's share of White population. A fifth of Israel's population are Arabs. Israel is already more ethnically diverse than most European countries including those with significant immigrant populations such as France, Germany or Sweden. Now fuck off back to Zig Forums, faggot.
Apparently, ethnically diverse nowadays just means a competing number between jews vs arabs.
Hilarious.
Sounds like they could use refugees.
It's not. It's about removing agents of imperialism. Race has little to do with it. If they value their capital more than their lives, they can surrender their bodies to the people instead. Either way the sins of imperialism will be rectified.
Israel has very detailed records relating to this shit, being a racist ethnostate and all. Send them back to wherever their ancestors came from.
How do you define "ethnically diverse", then?
The Israeli Right is unsurprisingly dismissive of asylum seekers. You know, the same Right who sympathizes with European anti-immigrant parties such as Le Pen's Front National.
Maybe having more than 50 ethnic, yet each 50 number around 1000 or less.
It's not ethnic diverse when it's 50% jews and 50% arabs.
What the fuck are you talking about? Is a falafel stand employee in Tel Aviv an "agent of imperialism" now?
You made it abundantly clear that you wanted Jews of European descent deported and resisters massacred.
I'm sure this rhetoric couldn't possibly be co-opted by reactionaries. :^)
This sentence doesn't even make grammatical sense.
How did you come to that arbitrary conclusion regarding the definition of "ethnic diversity"…?
Alright, let's try a real example, Vietnam. Ethnic diverse country, with 87% King vietnamese, yet over 87 small ethnic pop around ten thousands or less.
Because ethnic diversity is arbitrary in the first place?
Technically, a scot and an english already make England diverse.
Uh, okay. How does that disprove the fact that Israel is more ethnically diverse than most European countries? In fact, scattered ethnic groups abound in Israel (Bedouin, Druze, Arameans, Bahai, etc).
Then Israel is super-diverse: The Jewish population alone consists of different ethnic sub-groups (Ashkenazim, Sephardi, Mizrahi, Beta, etc) from all over the world.
Man ethnostates are fucking stupid. I hope to god I get to live to see Isarel irradiated.
Except they're not, which is pretty much the right's entire problem with Israel. The Israeli right are extreme hypocrites about everything.
I was responding to someone who claimed England was diverse because it had both Englishmen and Scots. You're being disingenuous.
They most definitely are. Likud and Front National officials have met on several occasions, and the Israeli Right in general is vocal in its support for anti-immigration organizations in Europe. The idea that the Israeli Right opposes immigration at home but supports it abroad is unsubstantiated Zig Forums-tier delusion. In fact, such tripe came full circle when Netanyahu accused Soros of financing the opposition to his anti-immigration policies — the Israeli and European Rights don't just promote the same policies, they also employ the same rhetoric.
Because it's mostly jews and arabs?
So as you said, there is no need for diversity, anywhere, period.
An english and a scot are more different than a bunch of jews.
Reminder that arab Palestinians are ow the majority between the Jordan and the Medd. Palestinian liberation is an inevitably.
And France is mostly white Europeans, period? Look, I don't even know what point you're trying to make. What I said is this: To pretend Jews support immigration abroad but live in an ethnostate at "home" makes no sense whatsoever: Israel is more ethnically diverse than European countries like France — the dominant group makes up a lower share of the total population and ethnic clusters are much more abundant.
What are you trying to insinuate? I don't "support" or "oppose" diversity, it's a demographic variable with no intrinsic moral value.
Then why is racism towards Betas so widespread in Israel? You do realize there exists a widely documented history of hatred, conflict and discrimination among Jews before and after to the foundation of Israel, right?
No, not anymore, just look at Paris.
What I'm trying to say is that if what you say is correct, there is no need for more diversity anywhere else, period.
Don't know, don't care.
Kek brietbart burger detected, 80% of Parisians were born in France: and a lot of the immigrants are actually french from plces like coastal Algers.
Yep, just like all the jews in Israel are born in Israel.
Does it change anything? Nope.
Your solution is just as bad as that of the Zionists. You can't solve ethnic cleansing by compounding it with more ethnic cleansing. There are no absolute native inhabitants of anywhere anymore, there are only historical atrocities of one group against another. What the Jews did to the Palestinians isn't evil because the Palestinians have a better claim to the land, it is evil because of what the Jews did to them in itself.
Your logic also opens the door for the ethnic cleansing of recent immigrants from Europe.
The population of France consists predominantly of white Europeans. The vast majority of Parisians are white. Many people of African descent do live in the suburbs — just like many Arabs live in Israel's lower-class neighborhoods.
Look, you're not fooling anyone. You're just legitimizing your anti-immigrant views by invoking the lack of a "need" for diversity — displaying your complete ignorance about the causes of immigration in the first place.
You sound like a brainlet incapable of holding a coherent argument for more than ten minutes. Fuck off back to Zig Forums.
Diversity is not some abstract good or bad that places need more or less of. It's the effect of historical contingency, and it has to be managed as best as can be whenever it pops up.
The meme on the "left" (read: libs) that diversity is a good in itself needs to die.
Have you actually visited Paris? I did, and whites are actually hard to find. It's actually the countryside outside Paris that is whiter than Paris.
Dude, nobody needs immigration nor diversity.
And you sound like a footballer who keeps moving the ball back and forth.
Either we are already diverse or we are not.
if you go to Paris you will find white if you start going to the north of Paris
Palestin who?
Looks like the Hasbara shills are out in full force today
AL MAWT LI ISRA'IL
You live in an alternate reality fueled entirely by Zig Forums memes.
Urban areas tend to be more ethnically diverse than rural areas — this is nothing new.
Globalized capitalism's demand for cheap labor doesn't care about your feelings regarding diversity. It's not a question of whether "we need diversity" but of what causes immigration in the first place.
The PFLP is a mere shadow of its former self and the Hezbollah is a reactionary Islamist militia serving the interests of the Iranian ruling class.
Israel is a country running low on time. In the next 20-25 years they will have to choose between being a jewish state or democratic state. The two state solution is dead. There will be a one state solution and the arabs will outnumber the jews demographically. And in this instance it will be true apartheid and not just leftist exaggeration. But if they relent and give the palis their rights then Israel will no longer be a Jewish state
I imagine the western left might become more radically anti zionist and it might even become a mainstream partisan issue. Although both the democrats and republicans seem bought off by the israel lobby.
There is a clear and growing disconnect between Israeli jews and liberal western jews.
I dont know whats going to happen in the future but it seems pretty bleak
I doubt this will be a hard choice for them.
The PFLP used to support a one-state solution, but it never caught on.
Huh? Israel is 75% Jewish, while America is only 56% white.
He's right
I don't even want to stay in this country but your solution is retarded. There are families here that live here since 4 or 5 generations ago so it's safe to say they're fairly native. That also begs the question of what to do with the Mizrahi Jews, they can't go back to Arab states, they wouldn't be able to stay according to you (and both of them and Arabs being "brown" isn't going to cut it either), they are completely disconnected from their roots. To give you a perspective check the PDF. Besides, "rights to a land" are a spook, not saying Israelis have any more right to it than Palestinians, but if you're coming from a revanchist point of view you're out of your mind.
And if we're on the topic, would you be also so enthusiastic to slaughter or expel Romanians from Transylvania? Or Russians from regions in Ukraine, in particularly Crimea? Because people use the same arguments there.
Have you noticed that ethnic cleansing and your solution are indistinguishable?
Man I don't have any capital, almost no one does here. Do you think this is some Haiti shit where the French sit with cigars while the field-niggers are just went from slaves to wageslaves?
Funny you say that because people here literally advocate that. Ever since the pouring of Sudanese refugees the exact same tensions that developed in Europe developed here. There are the reactionaries that want to send them back, and then there are leftists that want to keep them here because otherwise they'll die in whatever country they're sent back to. Recently, it was even suggested to marry Sudanese immigrants so they won't be forced to be sent back. Holocaust survivors actually support keeping them in, kind of sheds light why Jews abroad also support keeping the immigrants in the country they came to.
Not really gonna bother reading the diversity autism that popped up in this thread.
Pretty much everything in the first paragraph.
moron.
Anyways, recently there was a big hubub. The arabs have reached demographic polarity with the jews
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Eh I would say less anti-zionist and more post-zionist: I know post-zionism is a growing concept amongst british jews.
This, bigtime.
Actually I would say the opposite: regimes become their most extreme before their fall and the Palestinians (espeically groups like Hamas) are starting to realise that they have time on their side and are toning things down. As both progressives inside of Israel, jewish populations in the west and western governments turn against zionism and ultra-zionism, the right-wing zionists in Israel will find themselves more and more isolated. There will come a point where they either have to surrender or oppress their own people: and that's the thing with Israel, it is hard to oppress a population that is armed to the teeth and have all had military training. Right-wing zionism is dying, it will have some violent death throws but it is doomed to die.
It should be noted that the PFLP supported the bi-national solution, as opposed to the Palestinian State with Jews in it or vice versa. Honestly at this rate I think bi-nationalism will win out, the settlements in the west bank aren't going anywhere and the Palestinian Arab population inside the '67 of Israel borders keeps growing and growing. There will soon come a time when Israel-Palestine will look more bosnia-herzegovina. Also Post-Zionism is a growing movement in Israel itself, mostly with the younger population,
Actually the territories between the River and the Sea are plurality palestinian Arab.
Also people forget that Israel & Palestine, like every ME country, has a fucktonne of ethno-religious minorities (Druze, Marionites, Greeks, Assyrians and more).
On another note, I did some research yesterday and fuck me a lot of western states, including even the UK, recognise Jerusalem as terra nullius and still hold the 1947 plan. It is actually quite surprising and gives me hope: Corpus Separatum for Jerusalem actually would work and has a surprising amount of support from the international community.
ahahahahah, zionist pseudo leftist detected
Palestinians will only succeed when they embrace Not Socialism.
Who SSNP gang here
SSNP GANG
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Would you recommend the same for South Africa? Australia? The US? At a certain point youre drawing arbitrary lines to justify genocide
Obviously the Israeli state should be destroyed no one here is disagreeing with that
All kikes in ovens!
it should make you think that after Israel was created many trotskyists became neocons. Communism is a 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧trick🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 and goyim keep falling for it.
i'm curious
do ☭TANKIE☭s think the SSNP isn't NutSac
Fuck kikes! Subhuman trolls!
I'd consider them turd position yeah, but closer to something like Nat Synd than Hitlerism though.
This post makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
SSNP isn't fash, it has a unique ideology forged from unique conditions in the ME: for example there is no racialism whatsoever in the SSNP, in fact it was explicitly anti-racialist. It conceptualised a pure civic pan-syrian nationalism that denied ethnic and religious identifications. As for economics, it has a lot to do with the state-socialism, so they reject class struggle but they acknowledge processes like historical materialism. The position of the SSNP: radical developmentalist social democracy, is not that different that a lot of third world socialist movements in the world today. They were also fine working with socialist movements like the baathists, the various communist parties of the ME and Nasser.
Also for the record the SSNP was not anti-semitic, if you were jewish and syriac they would be perfectly fine with you.
This user gets it.
I'm poiting out how much of socialism lost its steam after the creation of Israel. Connect the dots, cumrade.
they were fascists from the get-go so really you're not saying much
That must be why they are allies with the Lebanese Communist Party and supported by the PFLP
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You're being retarded, this was said about Trotskyism from its very inception
not an argument, sectarian namecalling on the left is as old as leftism itself
sounds gay
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BE GONE, ETHNIST
Also for the record the SSNP was founded by arab Art Garfunkel.
if the SSNP were actually racialist they would've taken power decades ago
how
HAHAHA, no.
Their anti-racialism is actually their strength: in Syria for example they have support because it matters not if you are muslim, christian, druze or jew, if you are Arab, Greek, Armenian or other: they will take you. Most of the pro-Assad minorities that don't have their own militias join the SSNP.
In Lebanon this is also the case, they are one of the few parties not recognised to an ethno-religious group and as such have broad support (if limited). It is their reject of racialism and islamism that allows them to not only remain, but be at the very least a minor player in the politics of Syria, Lebanon and Palestine.
Commie cognitive dissonance is amazing you people will believe bullshit with no grounding in reality right up to the moment where it buries you alive.
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it would give them strength and unity
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
bruv a lot of the countries the Israelis came from don't fucking exist anymore.
Is Zig Forums all in on some sort of April Fools joke today? What the fuck is with the Zionists in this thread? Fuck off and stop posting.
Beyond the political implications, i only see a tragic display of catastrophic stupidity.
Over and over again, Palestinians throw themselves and pointlessly die on Israelis sticks.
Like trying to stop a tank by throwing yourself under it.
There is no way in hell any of those people have an Autism Level above 80.
Makes me facepalm everytime.
yeah like the ussr lol
Bernie and Jezza have something to say
So? Just send them to America or some shit then. America loves porky zionists.
