Anybody here fascinated by obscure syncretic ideologies? I like investigating them and trying to understand how their promoters ended up championing such garbled worldviews in the first place.
I'm thinking stuff like Nazi-Maoism (neo-Fascist support for an alliance with the PRC against Soviet and American imperialisms with Evolian traditionalism mixed in) or Canaanism (anti-Judaic and anti-Islamic pan-Semitic Zionism which welcomed Arabs as part of a new Hebrew nation).
Marxism-Deleonism-Maoism, it's state syndicalism with Mao's permanent revolution (bomb the headquarters, it's right to rebel), peasant syndicates, reliance on the global south, and Protracted People's War.
Jaxon Carter
Uh? I've never encountered that ideology before. Got any links?
Hudson Kelly
None I literally just made it up
Jack Johnson
What about Rattachism? It's an obscure sort-of-irredentist ideology that sprang out of the regionalist Walloon Movement of the '60s. They promote the secession of Wallonia and Brussels from Belgium to become a part of France.
Omg, that's hilarious. That being said though, 'I've' personally never met a posadist either irl or online. Kinda wishing I had though
Christian Brooks
I am an unironic neo-Barclianite (Bookchinist) Authoritarian Federalist Pagan Folk Socialist with Anarcho-Posadist characteristics. Ask me anything anons.
Matthew Rivera
Pretty sure at least half of them are memes. You ain't gonna find un-ironic National-Trotskyists or ChristBols in real life or online for that matter.
Caleb Smith
Tbh ideologies can mix so you never know what you might find fam. Nobody believes 100% in trotskyism or marxism-leninism, there's always "with X charactetistics" added in there.
I’m unironically a posadist. Ask me stuff I guess.
Nolan Davis
Why can't nazbols and posadists work together to destroy the global reptilian cabal that seeks to steer humanity into a war against the greys?
Eli Morris
Just one question pops to my mind: why?
Luis Jackson
Read posadas brainlet.
Aaron Wilson
Lol how about no. Ain't got time to read some spergouts of some insane argentinian talking about space aliens and alliances with dolphins
David Flores
Anarcho fascism. Anarcho Nazbol. Ansol. Anarcho cannibalism. Anarcho oligarchy. Afro nazbol. Akhand Bharat Communism. Bookchin capitalism but it doesn't count if you just want leftist ideologies, but hey Bookchin doesn't count in general. Betrayal reformism. Colonization and imperialism in the name of communism. Circulus Communism which works hand in hand with Gaia theory. (See below.) Devalued materialism. Egoism. (No not that kind.) Gaia materialism. Gremialismo Socialism. Lost communist civilizations. Quantum Marxism. Sexual cannibalism. Yes I'm being serious. Transylvanianism
Looked up betrayal reformism, got no results. Wtf is it?
Daniel Howard
Long story short becoming a hardcore capitalist, like real hardcore, abusing employees to the point of death, being greedy, and being such an evil capitalist you eventually run the market and use your power within the system to take it down inside out.
It would be hard to pull off and can only be done by one person with a master plan and would result in the death of billions by being so extreme but it would properly instate communism.
Aiden Mitchell
The best leaders throughout history have always been considered "insane" by timid cowards like you. The revolution will never happen if people like you are not willing to try new, out-of-the-ordinary things, and since you are not willing to learn about ideologies besides your own by doing anything more than looking at memes, it is unlikely you will ever be of any revolutionary value anyways. t. Not Posadist
Lucas Thompson
What can I even do to fight for the posadist cause? Steal a nuke and destroy my city? Ooh, or perhaps have a pet dolphin and teach him to understand sign lenguage and use an ak47 to kill the bourgeoisie while I star haze in nevada looking for the interstellar vanguard to come and save me.
Elijah Walker
Sounds like accelerationism: the ideology.
Josiah Wood
You can preach the truth about the bourgeoisie.
Adrian Perez
It's different. Accelerationism calls for the opposition to gain power. In betrayal reformism you gain power. Different things, you're basically calling Antifa fascist with thought processing like that.
Oliver Reed
We need the glasses from They Live before we can do that.
Why not? It’s the logical extension of Historical Materialism- UFOs have had to transcend the capitalist mode of production and have superior commands over matter and energy to even get all the way over here. Nuclear war is the shock to the capitalist system we need, since capitalism is so entrenched nowadays. We do not particularly desire nuclear war, but we need it.
Thomas Reyes
I see. Still though, don't see much point in doing this unless you want to lead a socialist country with no people.
Angel Jones
this is Zig Forums niggerplasm
Ethan Peterson
I can understand why thinking aliens having reached communism would be very technologically advanced, but say what if instead they are really hardcore capitalists and only a tiny minority actually fly out to space while the rest are being exploited to hell in making advanved technology and also are extremely imperialist and conquer all alien planets they find to keep fueling their technological advancement?
Brandon Barnes
and so on and so on
Dylan Watson
I mean Posadism makes sense on a surface level.
It's just…not something you should seriously discuss. The dolphin thing was made up by their opponents though afaik
Angel Butler
Nice
Really? Kinda dissapointed Posadas didn't actually come up with that dolphin thing.
Jacob Sanchez
Then, we’d just be fucked. The part about contacting aliens is more of a gamble, if you factor in the chance if historical materialism is defied by the aliens. I do suppose that hijacking the capitalist aliens superior technology and transmitting revolution to their homeworld is a possible, if somewhat silly proposal.
Jaxson Green
DIE HERETICAL SCUM! XENOS MUST BE DESTROYED NOT ALLIED WITH! NO PITY! NO REMORSE! NO FEAR!
Trotsky moved to Latin America after getting expelled from the Soviet Union, so of course he started groups because he was wholly into world revolution in contrast to Stalin. Posadas was a member of the original Latin American 4th International, which then Posadas and his buddies split from them and joined the Pabloists (ISFI) in 1953, but due to some disagreements with the Pabloists, the Posadists split again into their own party in 1962.
Not all that weird but I consistently think nihilist communists are onto some good shit.
Landon Cruz
tell me more of Sexual cannibalism and Anarcho cannibalism
Kevin Foster
It's another term to fight for the self while abolishing anything else about you.
Anarcho cannibalism, eat each other without government, that's it. It also extends to sexual cannibalism.
Anarcho cannibalism is the basic idea, sexual cannibalism is the mass production of people under sexual liberation and eating them to ensure the continual survival of the human species.
Luke Sanchez
Can I ask something. Out of all the things mentioned in this thread why do most of the people focus on nazbol, posad, and cannibalism the most. They're not even the best ones out there.
Adrian Fisher
Because they're crazy and stuff
Bentley Martinez
Neither sound too crazy to me, just subjectively disagreeable, I can't see a way someone can prove either are definitively incorrect. Posadism I have no idea about.
Joshua Clark
Does cannibalism really qualify as a political ideology?
Brayden Perry
In certain aspects yes
Jonathan Ramirez
illegalist stalinism
Grayson Foster
Has it had theory written about it?
Dominic Robinson
could describe cockshott actually
Luke Flores
Progressive Brown Juche does the best videos for that
She's actually a semi-popular figure in France. Vulgar socialists tend to admire her, Marxists on the other hand positively hate her guts.
Mason Hill
Not surprising. After all France is Nazbol.
Ryder James
Nah, only when a Corsican ruled.
Aaron Richardson
Yes. Its my favorite thing. At the same time i see the logic in it. You take the parts you like from preexisting ideologies and fuse them together to make something new and weird.
There are things i like about anarcho primitvism but i have no intention of living in the woods or giving up technology.
Owen Sullivan
You might be interested in French structural anthropologist Claude Lévi-Strauss' concept of bricolage.
Kayden Lewis
if you take out the alien shit posadists are just overly agressive trots, for example in cuba during the revolution the posadists were the ones that wanted to retake guantanamo at whatever cost neccesary, the whole alien and nuclear shit are just dressings for the real movement, which is to say coked out trotskism
I also remember hearing that they thought Trotsky would return, but I'm guessing that's false too.
Grayson Evans
This is great.
Adrian Collins
No. You can definitely start a crisis that will justify a communist revolution, but to think you can create a crisis so bad capitalism will break by itself is fucking ludicrous.
