Sectarian Thread

ITT: we have a giant shitposting flamewar about whose leftist ideology is the correct one. The leftist ideology i subscribe to is the ideology of pure anti idpol marxism. Marxism leninism is authoritarian state capitalism, nazbol is a meme ideology, Asserism is nazism with shared commodities anarchism is a bunch of teenage LARP'ers.

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Anti-identity politics is vague.

fuck you. your a retard
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Anyone who hasn't read marxian philosophy is most likely a fucking didactic, econo-sacerdotal twat.

I subscribe to Nihilist Posadism. True equality and proletariat ownership of the means of production can only be achieved by nuking all sapient terrestrial life into ashes. This will allow the ashes to achieve a state of permanent revolution as postulated by Trotsky. When the wind blows over them.

I am right here on the political compass. Literally everything on the planet pisses me off for some reason. I am socially centrist but economically extreme left. My ideology is the best because it is authoritarian enough to work but respects the freedom of individuals as the most basic unit of society and because it is based on the idea that people should have responsibilities individually in order to improve the society around them. I respect religion and do not believe in a separation of church and state because to me that only serve to turn religious institutions into private institutions. I am religious as well but do not believe that any one religion should have absolute power as i describe that as spiritual imperialism. I believe nothing less than true socialism can work to improve society in the long-term. I am not a materialist but i do believe in dialectics. I believe the state should exist long-term but must ideally become far more democratic so that it may be used as a tool to carry out the will of the people. I am not a communist but i largely agree with communist economic theory. All of this most likely puts me at odds with pretty much everyone else on the planet.

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You're* Comrade.

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Ey resident Georgist come at me

Tankie doesn't mean anything anymore

Only sometimes, but yeah, it can be. I prefer state capitalism targeted towards socialism then unbridled capitalism, but there are quite a few things (like the continued use of money) that more or less out the USSR as failing to be completely socialist. I'll defend it against things that are blatantly untrue though.

The left has a noble savage problem sometimes. Poverty does not make noble people.

Tbh user, you can't artificially start a sectarian shitposting war. I has to come naturally Like every thread mentioning sex work, every thread mentioning China, every thread mentioning e-celebs, or every thread that starts with the word "idpol"

t. leftcom

That was clever

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Are you guys cool with this?

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Get despooked and it'd be ok.

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this

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I was about to post bait before stopping myself knowing that had I ever posted it, it would result in the thread going haywire, and no one will ever know what I was about to post.

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read Marx and Lenin

I don't know if the USSR was technically socialism but I still think it was the most advanced society in human history and came pretty close. What am I?

A Marxist

"technically socialism"…
have you read "state and revolution"?
like, i don't even want to shit on you because you're not even that far off and yet there's that lack of grasp for what socialism concretely even means and it's stated in most basic literature to read so clearly that i still feel like hitting you with a book and slap you around with it

you'd have the potential to be a Marxist Leninist and all it would take is that one little step, that moment where it goes click in your head, and it's just so frustrating to look at

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i mean, duh, of course that worst off feudalistic shithole in europe and the weakest chain in the imperialist powers that actually broke wasn't quite as developed as "needed be", there's reason for why Lenin went with "war communism" and "state capitalism" to develop the means of growing out of this chaos

"What is usually called socialism was termed by Marx the “first”, or lower, phase of communist society. Insofar as the means of production becomes common property, the word “communism” is also applicable here, providing we do not forget that this is not complete communism. The great significance of Marx's explanations is that here, too, he consistently applies materialist dialectics, the theory of development, and regards communism as something which develops out of capitalism. Instead of scholastically invented, “concocted” definitions and fruitless disputes over words (What is socialism? What is communism?), Marx gives an analysis of what might be called the stages of the economic maturity of communism."

there's no "technical socialism", the entire period of socialism is growing out of capitalism, it's not as much a "stage" in a stagnant rigid state of how things are to be done
missing a word here to describe it, anyway
as Marx put it:
"Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence."

if the question for you isn't where the SU was heading but "how far it got" or if there were issues on it's way, then it should be clearly socialism / first stage communism if you consider yourself a Marxist

A Challenger Appears.

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This. Fuck Landlords

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I will eat a mango today in his honor

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tribal communism I hear is kinda nice.

Fuck you user. Only thing "Georgists" every done was create a fun board game.

Tanks want an overly centralized government that's weak to corruption and revisionism and repeat the Soviet unions failures inherent in the system

Anarchists don't have enough organization to actually properly defend themselves

Non anarchist libcom GANG

That hurts. =[

Posting with the stalinstache is a carte blanche to their reader that you needn't take seriously anything they may write

What about with the ☭TANKIE☭ tank?

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I encourage dialogue with tank posters, they're fine.

Tankies are our allies.

hate us cause they ain't us

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socdems aren't even socialists and UBI is a fucking stupid subsidy for late capitalism and post-fordism

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tankies are comrades

Accelerationism is the only valid political ideology prove me wrong

Go to sleep batko, your irrelevant and you're content is only Zig Forumstier shit ripped straight from here

socialism is post-fordist

wew lad

Socialism is what a Labour government does.
t. Herbert Morrison

accelerationism is what's happening right now, and what's happening right now is bad. If what was happening right now was good, there would be no problems.