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Ceaușescu
Dylan Nguyen
Gavin Lee
I've always been interested in his abortion decree tbh. ( en.wikipedia.org
Seems like an interesting area where national interest and individual interest clash. The Romanian economy demanded children, the Romanian women didn't want to have them. I'm not saying I think he did the right thing - but it's a much more interesting area for debate around the morality of abortion than the morality of the act itself.
It's also interesting to wonder if a modern state could engage in more effective surveillance, or less explicit means of restricting abortion, to achieve the same end should a government desire it. I have a hunch that if you explicitly deny abortions, people go back-alley, but if you make abortions available, but too expensive or too far away, the back alley option is less popular because technically a safe option exists, and this market-technicality induces a sense of helplessness and resignation far more cruel and manipulative than anything the secret police could deal out. Which is fascinating until you consider it's basically already how we handle vast swathes of societal organisation.
Thomas Watson
Forcing a woman to have a child she doesn't want in the name of demographic growth is even worse than the usual American pro-life position. It amounts to seeing women as nothing but walking wombs and as policy relies effectively on hoping for as many unwanted pregnancies as possible.
Isaac Allen
That's what anti-abortion policymakers in America tend to do. They know they can't have abortion outlawed so they engage in all sort of petty hairsplitting to ensure it remains as inaccessible as possible without technically being illegal.
Matthew Perez
Ebin
Leo Myers
I mean, being considered a walking womb could charitably be seen as more humanising than being considered a rational economic actor in a dynamic stochastic general equilibrium model with rigidly defined microfoundations capable of responding to endogenous supply shocks and generating exogenous business cycles, which is how we already do things.
True. Comparing the rates of unsafe or unapproved abortions between the US states with such policies and Romania would be interesting (and ghoulish) if you could control for all the other factors. Since they've done less on the other side of the equation other than giving pro-abstinence sex education (rather than banning condoms, and providing economic incentives to push up pregnancies to the maximum level.) it's probably impossible though.
Angel Allen
I mean, if you absolutely have to for the country to survive against outside capitalist powers, sometimes its necessary. I'm more for the Soviet approach which was legalize contraception and abortion initially to control it and prevent unsafe abortions while also making sure to increase living standards so people don't get them in the first place and explicitly discouraging abortion if it can be helped, while only implementing illegalization in cases of mass population loss or if there is a necessary need for a population increase
Also if there really isn't a point at all, like in actual communism
Christian Bennett
why am i not surprised
Tyler Robinson
Excuse me, I went to at least 2 seconds effort adding in those additional words following "actor" and preceding my reply to the other poster and I would be much obliged if you would quote them in full.
Logan Lee
No. If a regime has to force women to have children they don't want to be politically viable, then it's a failed regime. Using your logic, anything could be justified in the name of "surviving outside capitalist powers".