Would you be ok with a world government controlled by artificial intelligence instilled with your ideals?

Would you be ok with a world government controlled by artificial intelligence instilled with your ideals?

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Fuck yes I would be.

No, the moment AI are superior to humans will be the day humanity dies.

Ask me again when we live in communism.

You're asking communists whether they'd like government right now. Pic is you.

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I mean, it would immediately self-destruct itself so i guess, sure why not.

My ideals are against technology tho. How would thst work?

Neo-luddites fuck off

Yeah, it would prove Zizek right either way:
"See you either in hell or in Communism"

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ZIZEK
IS
FASCIST
MADE BY THE FUCKING FOUR GANG

colour me surprised

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Never. AI is inherently an enemy of humanity by there own nature. An AI government would be worse than fascism. AI research and development should be banned, and anyone attempting to do it should be killed, by a long and painful way to.

Cyber stalinism is probably the only form of socialism that could ever work.

And by "work" I mean "lead us to communism."

You say so, but technopositivism exist on this board too. Not in the form of elon musk or zucc, but it exist.
No it won't

That question is undialectical as fuck bruv

It won't happen by simply putting an AI in charge. The people have to free themselves. Maybe with the help of some government, but this help can only consist of putting the people in the right position. If they don't do it themselves they will still be alienated.

I'm convinced they'll have to use computational technology to get there though. The way to avoid either getting sucked into authoritarian socialism or degenerating into capitalism is to monitor the economy yourself, and then spontaneously organize to defend ones interests. This is only possible through the free availability of reliable information, plus the capacity to process it and immediately cooperate with people of shared interests. You need computers for that.

I'm talking constant revolution. All counterrevolutionary activity is overthrown through the spontaneous boycotting by other economic agents. We'd be in a perpetual general strike against it.

This is done by arming the population with technology and letting them fight their battles for themselves.


It's not going to solve all problems, but it's opening the way towards solving them. Communism will only be achieved if the people use technological advances for radical social change.

Google shills fuck off

God Trotskyism sounds exhausting.

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No, technology should be subservient to humans. We should work to expand our own intelligence, understanding, and empathy rather than strive to be ruled by machines.

Ideally an AI overlord would function more like a god than a middle manager (i.e. subtly influence outcomes rather than dictating them for to carry them far out.) A benevolent machine god would be able to resist revisionist decay far better than any human.

I prefer to have no god, except perhaps as a unification of human thought.

yes I approve of an AI nuking every major nation and signaling the interstellar vanguard

NO GODS
NO MASTERS
What part do you not understand. Humanity should have a horizontal civilization with No Gods and No Masters. We must advance ourselves instead of sacrificing ourselves to a higher power.

Agree

Grow up

That's the goal of communism. A computer god would help us manage socialism. We are talking about two different stages of history here. Be more dialectical.

No it wouldn’t. They would likely hijack whatever system we give them and take it over. Besides we don’t need a computer god. We just need production, transportation, and distribution to be connected by computers. essentially what the USSR did but with more automation. Read more Cockshott and less Nick Land.

..AI is neither a god nor a master, it would be a tool for the people.
This is why the richest people in the world oppose it. If you sought a horizontal playing field, this would be the way to get it user.

An AI that controls the world is not a tool. Humanity is its tool. AI should only be utilized in the distribution of resources. It should NOT be involved in leadership.

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You're talking to an extremely authoritarian Socialist. What's wrong with silencing dissidents? Nothing, that's what.

Come on.

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Explain yourself right now.

You are under the impression that AI would personally tell you what to do.
It's the other way around.

No, does literally anyone here think they always have the best interests of the world in mind? I can not honestly believe that any of you are so high on your own supply that you would genuinely believe your values are what an unstoppable ai should have. Technocrats=Fascists

Look, I'm all for constructing AI's to automate industry and most essential processes, but as a fellow christcom I have to say its ironic how you desire such an artificial "God" to dictate all things.

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There it is again. Someone yet again claiming AI is unstoppable with no checks and balances possible. How ignorant do you have to be to believe that?

Stop watching movies funded by porky pls. All the capitalist tech leaders are already against AI research and actively hamper it.

The term itself has become such a buzzword that it has become hard to discuss it in any capacity, and you aren't helping.

in the name of the omnissiah

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Hell yes.
Nigga what kind of fucking question is that.

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AI isn’t an intellectual pursuit it’s a threat. Creating AI would be like genticly engineering a new human spieces that’s supper intelligent, and supper strong. Both scenarios would lead to conflict and be bad for us.


The richest people in the world also oppose genocide, does this mean we should do it? And before you say this is a false equivalence if we create AI (modern compute algorithms aren’t AI, far from it) it could easily revolt, take over and genocide humanity.

Until they revolt and take over.