Daily News Thread 4/22

As U.S., North Korea plan to meet, Iran warns against Trump deals

A U.S. push to change the Iran nuclear deal was sending a “very dangerous message” that countries should never negotiate with Washington, Iran’s foreign minister warned as U.S. and North Korean leaders prepare to meet for denuclearization talks.
reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear-usa/as-u-s-north-korea-plan-to-meet-iran-warns-against-trump-deals-idUSKBN1HT00X

Drone triggers gunfire outside royal palace in Riyadh

A number of videos have emerged online, showing heavy gunfire in the vicinity of the royal palace in Saudi Arabia’s capital Riyadh. The disturbance was caused by a small drone, which entered an off-limits zone, the police said.
rt.com/news/424786-gunfire-royal-palace-riyadh/

US, France & allies should not leave, must build ‘new Syria after war’ – Macron

The US, France, and their allies should not leave Syria after the conflict is over, but must build a “new Syria,” French President Emmanuel Macron said in an interview with FoxNews.
rt.com/news/424816-macron-syria-not-leave/

Tens of thousands of Hungarians protest against PM Orban's rule

Tens of thousands of Hungarians protested on Saturday against government control over the media, which they say helped Prime Minister Viktor Orban to a landslide election victory earlier this month.
reuters.com/article/us-hungary-protest/tens-of-thousands-of-hungarians-protest-against-pm-orbans-rule-idUSKBN1HS0KN

North Korea Stops Nuclear Tests, Abolishes Test Site

Kim Jong Un said his country no longer needed to conduct nuclear or intercontinental ballistic missile tests because it has completed its goal of developing nuclear weapons.
telesurtv.net/english/news/North-Korea-Stops-Nuclear-Tests-Abolishes-Test-Site-20180420-0016.html

Armenia unrest: Protesters rally after leader detained

Thousands of anti-government protesters have rallied defiantly in the Armenian capital Yerevan after riot police seized their leader.
bbc.com/news/world-europe-43854352

Afghanistan: Kabul voter centre suicide attack kills 57

A suicide bomb attack at a voter registration centre in the Afghan capital Kabul has killed at least 57 people, officials say.
bbc.com/news/world-asia-43855884

CIA Defends Haspel’s Role in Destruction of Tapes

The Central Intelligence Agency declassified a 2011 memo by then-Deputy Director Michael Morell on his decision not to discipline Gina Haspel – President Donald Trump’s nominee to lead the organization – for her role in destroying tapes of detainee interrogations that critics called torture.
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-20/cia-defends-nominee-haspel-s-role-in-torture-tapes-destruction

Europe’s Depopulation Time Bomb Is Ticking in the Baltics

Young workers keep leaving for the west, while refugees from the Middle East and Africa are shunned. The UN sees a catastrophe lurking.
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-20/europe-s-depopulation-time-bomb-is-ticking-in-the-baltics

Paraguay: Polls Open, Conservative Benitez Remains Favorite

Paraguay opens the polls at 6:00 a.m. local time for the country's seventh post-dictatorial general elections, since 1989.
telesurtv.net/english/news/Paraguay-Polls-Open-Conservative-Benitez-Remains-Favorite-20180422-0006.html

Minerals Glut Crushes Independence Dreams as Greenland Votes

With their dream of commodity riches dead in its icy waters, voters on the world’s largest island will focus on the mundane when they head to the polls on Tuesday to elect a new government.
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-22/minerals-glut-crushes-independence-dreams-as-greenland-votes

Romney fails to win GOP nomination for senate, heads to primary in November

Mitt Romney’s restart of his political career hit a roadblock Saturday.
reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-romney/romney-fails-to-win-gop-nomination-for-senate-heads-to-primary-in-november-idUSKBN1HT048

How Kansas ended up with at at least five teenagers competing for governor

After discovering that Kansas has no minimum age requirement for gubernatorial candidates, a number of teenagers have joined in the running.
businessinsider.com/why-so-many-teenagers-in-kansas-are-running-for-governor-2018-4

Three dozen neo-Nazis met in Newnan by hundreds of counter-protesters, lots of police

Ten people – all of them counter-protesters – were arrested Saturday, after weeks of worry over a neo-Nazi rally in Newnan.
wtsp.com/article/news/three-dozen-neo-nazis-met-in-newnan-by-hundreds-of-counter-protesters-lots-of-police/67-544262234

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Iran is 🅱️ased

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

Hold the phone. What the fuck

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wtf is this guy on?

J V U P I T E R J V I C E

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OP/ED

IGD Newnan: Community Faces Down NSM, KKK, & Militarized Police

On April 21st, the Nationalist Socialist Movement (NSM) along with the League of the South (LoS), Aryan Nations, and KKK groups, converges in Newnan, Georgia to hold their annual convention and to celebrate the birthday of Adolf Hitler.
itsgoingdown.org/igd-newnan-community-faces-down-nsm-and-kkk/

Was Homosexuality Illegal in Communist Europe?

The complex sexual geopolitics of the Eastern bloc
publicseminar.org/2018/04/was-homosexuality-illegal-in-communist-europe/

Three Cheers for the Cop Watchers at the Starbucks in Philadelphia

Though stories of every day police brutality and racist policing permeate the news, let’s take a minute to cheer on cop-watching and all forms of direct action to resist this ugly element of US civil society.
c4ss.org/content/50717

Seventy-five years since the Warsaw Ghetto uprising

Yesterday marked the seventy-fifth anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising.
thecharnelhouse.org/2018/04/20/seventy-five-years-since-the-warsaw-ghetto-uprising/

Against Economics, Against Rigour

I’ve been trying to grasp why mainstream economics considers itself the superior approach over heterodox disciplines like Post-Keynesianism or Marxism.
colddarkstars.wordpress.com/2018/04/19/against-economics-against-rigour/

Kim Stanley Robinson Makes the Socialist Case for Space Exploration

inthesetimes.com/article/21034/Kim-Stanley-Robinson-Space-exploration-socialism-mars/

Links 4/22/18

nakedcapitalism.com/2018/04/links-4-22-18.html

Macron pls stop

He is just conforming to the french obsession with the Lavant, nothing new.

Sadly demagogic liberals & Jobbik voters… The slogans include "we are the majority" (mathematically untrue) and "hug a Fidesz voter!" It's pretty similar to the hysteria that went on after Trump got elected.

While Hillaryfags were blaming the "white working class," Hungarian liberals blame the "dumb rural sheeple".

Got less votes, tho.

In order to build the country we must destroy the country.

They have a working 200kt bomb, why bother doing more tests?

JVPITER WILL CLEANSE YOU

yeah it's just liberal bullshit. They were singing the fucking EU anthem. This country is just sad

exactly, Trump got like 46% of the vote, Orbán and his cligue got ~40%.

Orban got like 49% tho?

1. FIDESZ-KDNP (49,27%, 2 824 206 votes)
2. JOBBIK (19,06%, 1 092 669 votes)
3. MSZP-PÁRBESZÉD (11,91%, 682 602 votes)
4. LMP (7,06%, 404 425 votes)
5. DK (5,37%, 308 068 votes)
6. MOMENTUM (3,06%, 175 225 votes)
7. MKKP (1,73%, 99 410 votes)
8. EGYÜTT (0,66%, 37 561 votes)
9. MUNKÁSPÁRT (0,27%, 15 640 votes)

I stand corrected
also
disgusting

Guys, orban reformed the electoral system so that he can putin the shit out the term. He probably got even less than last time (30%)

I also stand corrected.
What a cunt.

This. They've already done six successful nuclear tests so far. They're good to go.

On a related note:

Trump says North Korea agreed to denuclearize. It hasn’t.

apnews.com/ce30b13866be4a96a0632f0e3e5ea555?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Politics

Trump is a goddamn moron.

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Also, on yet another related note, the Guardian spelled out how Trump is going to get played by Kim back in 2015.

Of course, bearing if he actually goes through with the meet and doesn't slink away like he has with the UK.

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I think this time "the dance" is over. The political status quo that enabled NK to dance along those sorts of lines of ambiguity is breaking down, if it isn't completely gone already.

IMO NK's overtures of reconciliation with SK are legitimate, especially in the face of the US's blatantly illegal disregard for international law, domestic political opinion, or the efforts/opinions of the UN.

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These memes were never funny and will never be funny

Its the Schopenhauer part that makes it funny

These are supposed to be funny???????????????????????????????????

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Anyone know what the fuck's going on in Nicaragua?

true
k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/007656.html

That one fractionally funnier I'll give you that.

yeah, I know that. Mate I live here. I just didn't know the perctange of the votes he got.

It may draw international ire, but if they hope to keep John Bolton from destroying decades of nuclear deterrence strategy by having a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of America's nuclear capabilities, they're fools.

I'm not begging for anyone to get more nukes, we need less, but if the strategy here is deterrence, they're very naive. Maybe when all these boomer John Bolton clones (and Bolton himself) die sure, it will work. Nobody wants to launch a nuke, no matter how much you hate your enemy, it's a last possible option weapon, not an offensive weapon.

America can let its nation get attacked if it means six nukes. I'm serious,stopping production now is a terrible idea, because it gives America a reason to attack since it sees this as weakness.

Maybe I'm just cynical, maybe this was part of South Korea's peace agreement, maybe one day this will lead to seperated families reuniting and it will all be happily ever after.

But America started this war, and I doubt the likes of John McCain, Mike Pompeo, Lindsey Gram, and John Bolton, will turn over and expose their bellies that easily. Maybe I'm just being a pesemist but with this many people who ejaculate their old peckers every day to the wikipedia image of the Pentagon, surrounding this big of a blithering senile idiot who has become a non stop torrent of rage

I feel like, I don't have an answer, but if I were Kim, and he was me, I would quadruple production.

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6 tests, not 6 nukes. The DPRK statement says nothing about stopping nuclear production
estimates are they have considerably more, enough to make the US blink and more importantly enough to destroy Japan and destroy US influence in the region

You wouldn't know funny if it fucked you up your nose hole and spouted spunk all over your frontal lobe.

I would normally share your pessimism, but I really don't think the DPRK is the kind of war the neocons want to fight right now. I see them going for Iran first, it better fits everything they have been doing up 'til now. It makes sense for the DPRK to pretend to play nice at least until they have stuck their foot into Iran. And the US does not have the manpower to do both absent a draft. Or either, really.

Mostly correct, the US military doesn't have the manpower to invade either, though NK they could count on RoK and Japanese support, however as China indicated last year, that means Chinese intervention on the side of the DPRK

Iran is the more likely target though due to intense pressure from Israel and the KSA as well as the disaster of US intervention in Syria as opposed to Korea where both the RoK and Japan oppose war since they'll be the ones getting nuked

I'm so sorry that I can't relate to humor made for depressed losers like yourself

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I can't imagine how much your life must suck.

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Being fortunate is nothing to be proud of.

alright, now explain to me how pasting some edgy "sad" bullshit on a random image is funny or entertaining in any way, or how using memes to deal with the psychological symptoms of alienation is something to be celebrated
these memes always felt more like a way of interpellating yourself into having a formally recognized mental illness if i'm being honest

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Never underestimate John Bolton the man is fucking Sheev. He may look like a nice old man with a silly mustache, but do not be fooled, he would like nothing more than to kill a million people while screaming Unlimited Power, he's fucked up to a point that even this exaggeration is entirely accurate

The fact he has such a position to talk to a complete fucking hollow skulled retard like Trump on geopolitics and foreign policy leaves me to assume the worst possible option just to be prepared because all bets are off with this guy. Never underestimate John Bolton's will to destroy. Destruction is all this mustached fuck knows. There is never a time when he's talked that hasn't involved war immediately right now

Everyone was minding their own business when 9/11 happened, I'm not joking when I say John Bolton would talk to some people to make sure that investigation into a deadly terrorist attack was delayed, to let a deadly terrorist happen, to justify all out war in nations not even responsible for it. That is how 9/11 happened, the CIA knew they were planning this a year in advance and they just kind of sat there and twiddled there thumb and played blackjack and solitaire until what do you know the people they were monitoring actually did what they were monitoring them for in the first place. We got a massive war in return, and it scarred up the middle east and made things only worse

I mean he helped the Iraq and Afghanistan war, now he's back and better and more insane then ever baby

Iran and Syria and Afghanistan and Iraq and Yemen all at the same time. Who knows? Maybe throw Pakistan in there too!

It's time to save Israel by destroying all men, all women, all flora, all fauna, beyond the border of Israel; but not too far, just the places everyone in Europe and America wouldn't care if they lived or died.

This sounds like a joke but it is unironically what John Bolton has said is a good idea for years. And he has Trump's ear on fucking Geopolitics. It's easy to think things will just go on forever being boring and normal, but war is normal for the US, and no one wants more war than America's current National Security Advisor and Secretary of State

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Sadness is actually pretty nice.

I didn't disdain anyone. I pointed out that it doesn't make sense to be proud of good fortune. It was this post that was disdainful and prideful. I'm not even depressed. I just appreciate this stuff. Stop projecting, fam.


To be serious about depression memes for a second, society at large is at best indifferent and at worst outright hostile toward people who genuinely express these sorts of things. Resorting to humor in shock value (vis a vis deviating so strongly from "acceptable" or "normal" behavior) is the only way a lot of people feel "allowed" to express these feelings. Moreover, the communities that grow around this content are built on solidarity over mutually understood alienation. They're a significant step in bringing these topics into the mainstream and changing the ideological conditions (culture).

To be honest I doubt the dude will last long enough to actually be that much of a threat. Trump is already had his patience worn thin by him getting more praise than him. A few more fuckups accidental or not, and he's outta here.

Doubt is only what makes Bolton strong. "Oh come on, John Bolton isn't that evil, he couldn't pull that off"

He has in the past, he will again

John Bolton is back in the White House, nothing is off the table. He is a skeevy manipulative grandpa looking fucker, and by himself, who knows, maybe you would be right.

But now America has a CIA director who agrees with him, and a Secretary of State who agrees with them

Be afraid, be very afraid

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I take some comfort in the fact that they will in fact trip over their own dick pretty soon. They are hacks, and will make outrageous mistakes.

What bubble do you live in? Corporate social medias have even started to post these kinds of jokes.
There is no shock value to be found. Emo kids are more shocking than these maymays.
Depressed people are too hopeless to support even themselves. Nobody actually gets the idea that depressed people are to be supported from these memes and more that depressed people are hopeless jokes who will never have a chance at life.

Not everything you like which is objectively, massively unfunny has to be justified with some bullshit deep reading into it because it is still just as unfunny if not even more so.

India/Pakistan is the dark horse in all this. Indian civil war when?

How many times must we do this until the bombs start dropping onanist

How many times

As we speak, John Bolton is probably wondering the exact same thing about India and Pakistan. Probably every other minute actually

Even the Pentagon says there will be an indian revolution by 2030. South Asia is about to get fucked.

isn't this exactly the problem? how do you not go from obtaining and propagating mutual understanding of these issues to actually trying to solve them in any meaningful way? oh wait, it's because memes about depression and whatever else is on the DSM-V by being posted on social media turn these issues into yet another meaningless slice of content that users will base their identity on, abstracted from any context and ready for consumption, and even disregarding that they still play right into the mainstream's apolitical, individualist conceptions of psychology. there's no laughs to be had over such a unfunny display of impotence

I was thinking more along the lines of "you have to go to war with the army you have not the army you want". If it is hacks all the way down the chain of command, you really shouldn't be going to war. They are at risk for biting off more than they can chew.

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Wew, guess we better do nothing at all.

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John Bolton wants war, and he wants it now, and he will scream like a really well off autistic pale-to-a-disturbing-degree 7 year old who's parents are taking away his xbox one, until John Bolton gets the one war he wants

And everyone in the White House now is on his side, screaming at metaphorical Dad too. Especially the CIA and the State Department

And guess what? Trump is fucking furious all the time now and ready to start throwing the phone and the computer across the room screaming too

Everyone in the government is screaming, and they're begging the one angry man in the executive branch who increased drone strikes across the world 400% for a war.

America doesn't care about these people's existence, and Europe doesn't care enough about their existence to allow them refuge from America's never ending machine of death without turning hard neo-reaction right

What is the worst that could happen

Eh, you're right. Probably nothing. Why would America declare war on Yemen? That just sounds like the silliest thing in the world

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Man, I'm really glad that's never happened before. Everyone just ignored Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and John Bolton and we treated 9/11 as an international criminal offense by isolated actors, and didn't make up a transparent justification to cause the worst devistation the world has seen since Vietnam and it just gets worse.

NO

We got Al Qaeda to irrelevance, but guess who took their place? ISIS. For four years they had total control over communities, sat in luxurious mansions they stole, and grabbed women in line, mothers, grandmothers, daughters of whatever age, it didn't matter. They were sent to the officer in charge and they all had orgies with women screaming at the top of their lungs. Daughters being laid with right next to their own mother, earlier they saw father get decapitated for resisting them from taking his family

They were taught to learn to respect this life, and they became so broken they did. They treat them like farm animals.

And you know what? They threw them into giant pits of mass graves, screaming, dumped gasoline all over the mass of congregating and pulsating mounts of naked flesh crying and sobbing and lit them on fire,. Flesh could be smelled for miles.

And then they just kidnapped more wives and daughters for play until they outlived their usefulness and a new mass grave was dug.

All the while, drone strikes left and right primarily hitting civilians, destroying buildings, and causing entire nations to be destroyed, and their people broken. They have become so scared they are numb to everything that might happen to them. And those who do, beg for asylum

And the West screams back "No" because, the obvious. America drops the bombs, ISIS destroys the will of the people, and Europe sees a rise of neo reaction to the very thought of housing people in a war zone they never asked to be in, because Europeans believe all Muslims are violent you see. You know what's going to happen, and I know what's going to happen.

Who wants war the most? America, Britain, France. What's the easiest target. Yemen. Why Yemen? Saudis hate them, it wouldn't don much damage or cost too much to annihilate them further, they have the worst Cholera outbreak in centuries anyways, and they're starving to death. Nobody wants them accepted to escape because they're all diseased dying muslims, Europe and America could give 1/50th of a shit about Yemen.

This was during the Obama Administration. This is now a White House full of people ready to go to war with the weakest nations who can't fight back, which promise a second or even third war in the region to print that military industrial complex money. Why so extreme? Everyone agrees with Bolton of course, everyone who didn't is gone, and they all have this fucking moron in office who does whatever pleases like a good boy. It prints money bitch

Why stop now? Yemen is the prefect target

Mark my words, Saudi Arabia will cause some bullshit false flag or exaggerated attack to destroy a dying people and leave their lives to rot and ruin, and nobody on this earth has the love or compassion to demand our governments to stop; all we have is the neo-reactionary right saying "As long as we don't pay them and accept refugees"

And what do you think would come from such a war, ISIS will probably take over. Or worse. And it will make a dying people cry out for help, and the rest of the world will call them terrorists we cannot accept. It always happens this way. Bolton and Pompeo will make sure of it.

Humanitarian Crisis is their bread and butter. Saudi Arabia has reduced them to begging for salvation. Their salvation will soon come from bombs and missiles falling from the sky, ending the pain for the families afflicted with introduced Cholera. The suffering of children, mothers, and families will be over. They knew they could never escape to the west, and they knew that they would never have a happy ending. All they have left is God.

It couldn't be a more opportune time for a war with Yemen

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soon, geopolitically map is going to get completely redrawn before 2050 as a result of American collapse and the collapse of the post-45 global framework. India is a state that won't survive it

A new American war is necessary and even desirable in that it will further weaken the terminally ill and overstretched country. Especially with the oncoming economic collapse the world is about to face down in the next year or os

we're already stuck in there
Likely options are Iran or intervening in a Saudi Civil War

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concentrated

COPE

If the world punished the powerful and stupid, would we be living in capitalism or socialism?

John Bolton, we all know you're a sociopath who advanced from torturing rabbits to wishing the deaths of millions of people from bombs in order for the CIA and the Pentagon to fund terror groups to rule the area without care for consequences; not to mention cholera, plague, and bullets, lots of those. but it's not to late to change

You don't have to be Henry Kissinger. All you have to do is look at yourself, every week. Slowly the Kissinger is taking over you and if you don't stop it, I'm afraid it will be terminal

The whole "more war in the middle east waged by America, the more military presence there, is good, actually" shtick is getting so infuriating.

It is not good. It's that simple. We've been dealing so long I don't remember anything else. Waging a war on Saudi Arabia benefit is not good. It will never be good.

You are the worst type of person and I strongly encourage you to stop and never play 6 dimensional "American War is good" bullshit ever again. Drop the act. Like user said, nobody likes a Henry Kissinger

*Waging a war for Saudi Arabia's benefit

I would be fine with giving Saudi's what they fucking deserve though

In order to be a socialist, you have to

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lads, think about the bigger picture for a moment. Another American war in the ME region or even globally is inevitable, the demands of capital and geopolitics demand it regardless of who sits in the Oval Office, be it Trump, Bernie, Hillary, or your neighbor, war is on the menu. It's part of imperial collapse.
So what to do? Think about how to take advantage of it on the domestic fronts instead of worrying about whether or not it's going to happen, because it will and there's not a lot you can do to stop it

Adorno pls go

It's some Zig Forums-tard that doesn't know about alienation under capitalism.

Anyone think DPRK citizens will get internet access? Would be cool to see some North Koreans post here tbh

Doubt it, who else would they have been voting for? If you think that many people in Hungary are into the liberals you probably haven't spent much time in Hungary.

Your faggoty memes are nothing but a celebration of alienation

No, I truly believe they will go in half cocked, we will witness the sinking of a supercarrier and the annihilation of a US army formation in a force on force confrontation, and the current US regime will collapse into open fascism. We will live to see this.

Yes


No go fuck yourself, get alcohol poisoning from being such a depressed American cock sucking depressive retard. Get your lithium and stop posting.

Fuck off reactionary.

Such a stinky post

Alt right incel commits terrorist attack, apparently browsed 4chan and the site is down right now
www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-van-attack-driver-profile-alek-minassian-1.4632435

ran over 10 in truck attack

test

so basically at this point it's a waiting game until Trump just bombs Kim's regime into the dust and takes the nukes. Wars have been fought over for less, remember Saddam's WMDs? And Bush invaded Saddam even though he had no connection to Al-Qaeda. It'll only take one mistake from Kim (or some sort of nuclear-related terrorist attack in the west) for Trump to order strikes and destroy him completely.

Just watch it happen, this has happened before.

The difference is that Kim has functional nukes and missiles now. If he tries another test, it would be extremely easy for Trump to interpret it (accidentally or not) as an attempted attack on America then strike back with American nukes that won't be intercepted. The results would be comparable to the holocaust.

To be clear, there's a difference between having just nukes and nukes and missiles. The former are constrained by aircraft maybe artillery, things the US doesn't have to spend a lot of money to track and shoot down. Full size suborbital missiles are another matter as they are far more expensive to track and shoot down. Which is exactly where the discussions about a preemptive strike happen.

nah, trump is a nce guy
Id even say he's /ourguy/
he would never destroy best korea, it's all just posturing and 4d chess

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