It seems to me that under socialism, without the stress and alienation of a precarious shitty job, and with a culture changed out of the whole "you need to fit this stereotype of a successful rich attractive man like you see in all the ads and media you digest" these incel types might have a better opportunity to self-actualize. They can do something they care about and stop having to use women as an escape from the life they hate.
One thing I've been thinking about a lot lately is the effect that capitalism has on our cities and life within them. This isn't anything new of course, but really the more and more i look around at cities (in north america mostly, i live in Canada) i realize how utilitarian these cities are, firstly, how they're designed to basically function economically. But as well i notice the social culture is not very communal. A communal living design would help people with alienation, coming home to your own house all alone every day just to wake up and go to work again… not communal as in actually living in the same house but you know little park areas for your building or something. I live in a 4 story apartment and I do not know my neighbours at all for example. Seems to me like we have a very seperated city structure, does anyone else have thoughts on this?
looks matter to an extent obviously, but generally once you meet a girl in your ballpark of looks it all comes down to your confidence as a person and whether you have a good personality. What keeps these incels down isn't that they're "ugly" because there's someone out there for everyone. It's that they have horrible rotten personalities because they can't handle rejection.
And your average woman's isn't? The problem is that incels have the exact same outlook on the world as women WITHOUT any of the privileges that are bestowed on their gender counterparts. Women are superficial and vain as fuck, it's ridiculous to think that centuries of capitalist indoctrination has left women unscathed.
Lucas Sanchez
No, i vomited because """have your shit together""" "apply yourself" and "self improvement" is pure porky ideology. Some people are shy, insecure, or literally autistic This is "commies are just jealous of the rich" level analysis.
Xavier Gonzalez
"Personality" has to be the most nebulous nonsense word there is. It's so fucking subjective and any incel put underneath the microscope will be deemed to lacking in "personality" to fit with the observers just world theory.
In fact it's so bizarre that if you were to take an observer and have them watch an incel approach, and that incel did everything right yet was STILL rejected - the observer would conjure some weird abstract bullshit as to why he failed. Like approaching women is some precise science where if you're not standing at a 63 degree angle to her then you've failed.
Why do people suddenly dump all materialist analysis when it comes to relationships? Why must they go into the mystic realm of "personalities" and "soul mates".
Ian Thomas
Most incels either exude craziness or else have massive social anxiety. Deal with it.
its a vagery used to reinforce mainstream cultral norms about relationships and judging partners and deflect any criticism therof.
Eli Carter
mate if you act like an asshole to other human beings then they will not want to be around you, there's no need for "material analysis" here other than looking at how these individuals enthronements effect the way they behave (perhaps alienated from material conditions for example causes them to be shaped a certain way.)
you're literally just making an incel argument about "personality doesnt mean shit women just want to fuck chads" lol
Isaiah Foster
But they don't just act like assholes to people though.
Kayden Williams
Most incels are teenagers. Most will grow out of it if they stop feeling sorry for themselves.
