AHAHAHAHA!! WHERE WAS U WHEN THE AUT-RIGHT WAS KICKED OUT OF THE INTERNET FOR GOOD...

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is correct.
You aren't from this board.

Well well well fascism is LITERALLY unzooable

You can't explain the direction of a society merely in terms of a single person. The common fantasy of "going back in the past to kill Hitler and stop WWII" was always and ever a liberal one which personalizes history rather than understanding it in terms of material/class forces.

As long as the capitalists are on our side, we’re winning. They’ll be answering to our demands. Then we wait until we have total influence, then we just ask them to dissolve their financial institutions, and hand over all their capital to us or else we call them racist. They would have no choice but to listen to us at that point, just look at how Starbucks bent over backwards recently because of the recent incident they had.

I oppose restricting right of assembly and speech to fascists, because it doesn't actually gets rid of fascists, but makes it harder to find them.

LOL WAT, IS THIS LEFTYPOL OR Zig Forums LITE? IN CIVILIZED PLACES LIKE EUROPE AND THE UK, THE LAWS MAKE IT VERY CLEAR: HATE SPEECH *IS* A CRIME, HOW HARD IS TO GRASP THAT CONCEPT?

You're going to the zoo

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Your Zig Forums is leaking everywhere.

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF AUT-RIGHT APOLOGISTS.

If the government doesn't persecute you for what you say you have free speech.
Doesn't stop non government entities though. Zig Forums needs into realpolitik.

So, you’re going to give the bourgeoisie even more power so they can repress our speech even further? That’s an even better plan.

Surely you can’t be so ignorant that you haven’t noticed that the bourgeoisie denys free speech to communists on the grounds they wouldn’t give the same airtime to fascists?

I think it’s a bit rich choosing bourgeois fascists with an American-flag pin over some LARP groups that are open about their beliefs. You can’t trust the US imperialist corporations to save you from the fash, sorry.

That’s why it’s the job of socialists to expose this ideology to the working class and show them why it’s not an alternative. If the working class doesn’t reject it then we’ve failed, the end. Nothing can be done without them and if they can’t understand why fascism isn’t in their interest then there’s no point in fighting for socialism.

On the other hand, if we’re so arrogant that we don’t believe that the working class has the capacity to see through fascism and reject it then we have no business calling ourselves socialists of any sort. That’s just my opinion tho

How has it helped? Every European online forum or comment section I visit seems to have more fascist memes and unironic fascists then the burger ones. It seems obvious that burgerland fascists draw their strength from European movements that are far better organized and more serious.

Authoritarian restrictions on speech is socialistic you stupid little /po/yp.

How much is Zig Forums going to false-flag today?

Unrestricted speech leads to fascism, read Bordiga.

Then report them duh, it's illegal and the police DOES take action against fascist speech and even memes, unlike burgers.

Gimme the cliff notes.

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No socialist would ever say "authoritarian restrictions on speech is socialistic" because it manifestly isn't. Restrictions on speech have been used by liberal and fascist governments just as well. It doesn't imply any kind of "socialistic" government.

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They do it all the time on twitter and facebook, it's not a hard thing to do when the platform is willing to cooperate with the police.

They'l just find a new host within days or go back to their onion site. So long as people have net access it's impossible to restrict their voice.

That logic doesn't work. Look at the Disney strike, which you've never heard of because the media blacked it out. The moment a large media or telecom company is called racist the media will refuse to cover the accusers especially if there are labor issues involved, which the media doesn't care about because they don't consider labor to be a worthwhile story to run.

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richard spencer and altright.com are literally cia

fuck the law, fuck the capitalists who create the law for their benefit and fuck the police for being their merceinaries

For as shit as Spencer is if he is able to have a website than so can workers or unions, entities which engage in what most companies consider libel and defamation against them.

Nice retardation, Zig Forumsyp.

Nice thread shill.

You seem to be operating under the assumption that we have a sort of "marketplace of ideas." We don't. The fash will always have more funding than us, especially in reactionary societies like those found in the west.

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yes

As if that's a bad thing since they'll spend all of their money defending their right to say gas the kikes Nazi masturbation fantasy now, which also happens to defend labor's right to exist and engage in political campaigning. Any attack against free speech will be most quickly weaponized against unions.

They are, whether you like it or not.
Looks like you're at worst a fascist yourself or at least an apologist, so kindly go the fuck back to Zig Forums.

lol because Bordiga did such a good job stopping the fascists in Italy

Union movement was stronger when it was literally illegal, though.

Do you really expect anyone to fall for this lazy false-flagging, Zig Forumstard? I doubt people from even your own board are falling for it at this point.

Sure but the remaining unions are pretty close to death and removing their ability to even communicate outside of newsletters would destroy any political muscle they still have. Most people would accept it because they just wouldn't hear about it through censorship.

Their leadership is corrupt. Their leaders betray their members. They have no political sway. Striking them down will only make them stronger.

For me the main issue is that deplatforming them from the web is a double-edged sword because it makes it harder to monitor them.

On the other hand the radical left's online infrastructure seems more resilient. The anarchists are more ahead of the curve here with their own email providers and such. But you have to know someone to refer you and they function as support networks for IRL orgs. The alt-right seems to mainly exist on the internet and their IRL actions exist to serve internet propaganda campaigns, so deplatforming them on the web hurts them a lot more.

Too bad no one actually reads that site lmfao
Spencer is insignificant as fuck in the grand scheme of things, hell most aut righters think he's a joke, fed, and closet homo all in one if you read their forum posts. Delete 4/pol/ and the donald, and then that's when shit gets good.

Just delete 4/pol/ honestly. That's far more influential. It's become what moot always feared.

If you think about Charlottesville, the whole point of that was to livestream it (which is why half the damn tiki torch mob were filming themselves). This had the unintended consequence of getting a bunch of them doxxed, but either way, the point was to create this aesthetic and symbolic display of power and strength in the service of internet propaganda. So if you really want to hit them at their core, it's hitting their platforms.

striking them down will only result in the remaining 10% or so unionized Americans shrink to 1-2%, creating a situation where employees are forever divided and exploitable as the remaining employeed people are surrounded by the homeless and unemployed

Yeah spencer isn't the guy converting young people to the alt right, it's Zig Forums and like edgy meme subreddits pretty much. Spencer's just a figurehead for the media to use because he puts himself out there and acts stupid.

Not really because they'll just migrate to a new platform, new twitter handles, and new discord servers. Their ability to even get on the net at all would have to be completely destroyed, this is impossible unless they're actually in jail.

moot was a retard for ever allowing political shit on his weebsite at all.

He remained a complete newfag to the bitter end.

Good. Goooood.

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I doubt it happens now. Jap moot barely runs the site and he cares about profit (see his data selling and shit) so he's not going to delete his biggest traffic board even if they keep pulling shit and a good chunk of 4chan users want them gone.

this
moot wanted 4chan to go mainstream, look what he fucking created aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

project chanthology was NOTHING compared to 2016 election, jesus christ people thought that was bad then or the fappening or jessi slaughter going on GMA, but shit.

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Not at all. It'll be worse, and on a global scale.

Civic Nationalist Fascists against Ethno-Natioanlism will be the ones who will fulfill Capitalism in Decay. Ethno-Natioalism doesn’t work in non homogenous states, and only divides them destroying national unity. Assuming modern fasicsm will be Ethno-natioanlist is a mistake. Fascism pf the twenty first century will be civic nationalist.

Free Speech has never existed, and can only exist in a post-ideology world. Aka FALC

Go-Daddy is a capitalist corporation that is much more harmful than some LARPer like Spencer.

Capitalism in decay where attempted socialist revolutions have been crushed and liberal democracy has been replaced by an authoritarian dictatorship.

Well that was easy. So how does it apply to OP? Because to suppress speech through Orwellian means is the essence of any dictatorial regime, even 'left' ones.

Literal word salad. Since Capitalism isn't a form of government this a sign of semi-liberal Representive Republic with a bill of rights in decay.

Why am I not surprised?

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because you made the thread? XD XD