Xi Jinping: Marx's theory still shines with truth

Two centuries on, despite huge and profound changes in human society, the name of Karl Marx is still respected all over the world and his theory still shines with the brilliant light of truth, Chinese President Xi Jinping said Friday.

Xi, also general secretary of the Communist Party of China (CPC) Central Committee and chairman of the Central Military Commission, made the remarks at a grand gathering in Beijing to celebrate the 200th anniversary of Marx's birth.

Xi said Marx is the "teacher of revolution for the proletariat and working people all over the world, the main founder of Marxism, creator of Marxist parties, a pathfinder for international communism and the greatest thinker of modern times."

"Today, we hold this grand gathering with great veneration to mark the 200th anniversary of Marx's birth, to remember his great character and historic deeds and to review his noble spirit and brilliant thoughts," Xi said at the event.

With noble ideals and no fear of difficulty or adversity, throughout his life, Marx devoted himself to perseveringly striving for the liberation of humanity, scaling the peak of thought in his pursuit of truth, and the unremitting fight to overturn the old world and establish a new one, according to Xi.

Marx is not only a great figure who bore the weight of the world, but also an ordinary person with passion for life, who was sincere and true to friendship, Xi said.

The most valuable and influential spiritual asset that Marx left us is the scientific theory named after him – Marxism. Like a spectacular sunrise, the theory illuminated the path of humanity's exploration of the law of history, and humanity's search for their own liberation, Xi said.

"The thought and theory of Marx are of his times and go beyond his times," Xi said. "They are the essence of the spirit of that times and the essence of the spirit of all humanity."

Xi said Marxism is a scientific theory that reveals the rule of human society development in a creative manner.

Having developed the materialist conception of history and surplus value theory, Marx showed how humanity would leap from the realm of necessity to the realm of freedom and the road for the people to realize freedom and liberation, Xi said.

Marxism, the first ideology for the liberation of the people themselves, is a theory of the people.

"Marxism, for the first time, explored the path for humanity's freedom and liberation from the stance of the people, and pointed out the direction, with scientific theory, toward an ideal society with no oppression or exploitation, where every person would enjoy equality and freedom," Xi said.

Stressing that practicality is a prominent characteristic of Marxism that makes it different from other theories, Xi said Marxism is a theory of practices that directs the people to change the world.

It is an open theory that is constantly developing and always stands at the frontier of the times, Xi said. "That is why it is always able to keep young, explore the new issues in the development of times and respond to the new challenges for human society."

The general secretary said that over the 170 years since the publication of The Communist Manifesto, Marxism had been spread around the world, unrivaled in the history of human ideology in terms of the breadth and depth of its influence.

After the end of the World War II, a large number of socialist countries were established, Xi said, stressing that the founding of the People's Republic of China, especially, has greatly increased the socialist strength in the world.

"There might be setbacks in the development of socialism in the world, but the overall trend for human society development has never changed, and it will never change," Xi said.

"Marxism has not only profoundly changed the world, but also China," Xi said.

The reverberations of the October Revolution in Russia brought Marxism-Leninism to China, pointing out the direction forward, offering a brand new choice for the Chinese people in their struggle to survive, and setting the scene for the birth of the CPC.

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Since the CPC's birth, it has combined the fundamental principles of Marxism with the reality of Chinese revolution and construction, transforming the Chinese nation from "the sick man of East Asia" to one who has stood up, by uniting and leading the people through long-term struggle.

"This tremendous transformation serves as cast iron proof that only through socialism can we save China," Xi said.

Since reform and opening up, the CPC has combined the fundamental principles of Marxism with the reality of China's reform and opening up, and the nation who stood up has grown rich.

"This tremendous transformation serves as cast iron proof that only through socialism with Chinese characteristics can we develop China," Xi said.

In the new era, the CPC again combined the fundamental principles of Marxism with the reality of China in this new era, uniting and leading the people in "undertaking the great struggle, building the great project, advancing the great cause and realizing the great dream."

The Chinese nation has come to embrace a tremendous transformation, as the one who has grown rich now is becoming strong.

"This tremendous transformation serves as cast iron proof that only by adhering to and developing socialism with Chinese characteristics can we realize national rejuvenation," Xi said.

"It is perfectly right for history and the people to choose Marxism, as well as for the CPC to write Marxism on its own flag, to adhere to the principle of combining the fundamental principles of Marxism with China's reality, and continuously adapt Marxism to the Chinese context and the times."

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yay!

Its hard to deny the success of socialism with Chinese characteristics. And its just a phase to build up the economy for communism.

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Xi Jiping says similar thing like this every week.
straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/npc-2018-president-xi-says-only-socialism-can-save-china

ecns.cn/2018/05-04/301388.shtml


What is he up too?

Yeah whatever state capitalist

Xi is accelerating the contradictions of capital by means of creating massive productive capacity in China which results in a serious glut in the market overflowed with cheap goods. This will result in a falling rate of profit for capitalist enterprise and eventually a crisis of overproduction.

Once the global capitalist economy collapses the CPC is in a powerful position to expropriate capitalist property and nationalise it if it desires to do so.

By emphasising Marxism right now he ties the legitimacy of the state to socialism, making it harder to divert from the goals of the Chinese Revolution.

It's not really socialism. It's capitalism, and this is the growth stage. China is rapidly sliding into the stagnation/decline stage capitalism intrinsically has, and this will expose why China's system is untenable like all of capitalism is.

So you are saying that Xi Jiping says what he says because he wan'ts to promote socialism in the party and nation?

And Xi Jipings goal is to make more things than there are more money, thus forcing crapitalism die of?

Damn my grammar. What I meant-

And Xi Jipings goal is to make more things than there are money, thus forcing crapitalism die of by showing that human production is higher than they get paid?

proper wut

This strategy won't work because:

1. It is literally a capitalist strategy, monopolies start by overproducing goods causing a price crash which they surive through by absorbing smaller players and causing consolidation, benefiting from the increasing economy of scale.

2. Trying to use this strategy on existing capitalist enterprises will not work because they'll just have the countries who represent them enact antidumping Tariffs if not solid embargoes of certain products. Most countries are already doing this against Chinese steel and Chinese cement.

3. If the overproducer cannot sell their product or phase it out there is a permanent supply glut that makes continued investment in production of that good uneconomical. This destroys the entire industry unless the overproduced goods are destroyed to take them off the market.

4. China can't expropriate anything because they already own most things within them through SOEs. Attempts to block out foreign investment will lead to capitalists choosing not to do business with them at all and crash the economy they've built with them over the past forty years.

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Imagine you work at apple and in a month create 100 iphones, but can only afford 1 a year.


There is already a lot more food thrown out that people can afford to eat.


Bigger productivity than wages, in other words.

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All of these points could be overcome with smart leadership.

The worker's don't own the means of production, the production owns them. I don't give a shit about the "economy" or production if most people's lives still suck. I'd rather go back to the paleolithic and live happy than live in a suicide net laden factory in "socialist" china.

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and here is the twist, why exactly can't the picture under "Capitalism" be the future of a socialist world? Sure there won't likely be any branding by then but why should the future socialist family not have material comforts as the fruits of socialism?

God bless China!

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case in point

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imagine liking a country and its politics because you fetishize their women lol

What if Chinese capitalism is just NEP that took a bit too much time? Comrade Xi — new Stalin?

Stalin without the purges and WW2 would have produce a truely powerful USSR

Choose one.

That sounds nice except for the fact that the party has been taken over by revisionists for almost half a decade. There is a possibility for communism in China but it will come from the proletariat and not the CCP.

Yes and China's current price dumping attempts have proven they don't have smart leadership. The rest of the world's capitalists (as China is a capitalist country too) are done playing nice with them.

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Imagine being so stupid that you can't even strawman nor sage. smfh

I guess i'm a ☭TANKIE☭-lite

T34 > sherman

I'm a pretty big ☭TANKIE☭ but I recognize that overall the sherman was superior to the T-34. Easier to maintainability, better frontal protection, better optics, better suspension, better crew comfort, better crew survivability and equivalent firepower. I think the T-34 only wins on cross country mobility and cold weather engine performance.

It had better projectile dynamics, but the T-34-85 did have a better punch to the 85mm

ML always adapts to the materials conditions of societies.

wtf i love china now

Wait, Marx died this year?
Fuck.

Good Work Xi! We salute you!


This! I thought you were so anti China? We had so many arguments about it or are you a different user? Glad to see you changing your mind!

Duh


wrong


China is ruled by workers they control the economy and even the Private sector is primairly ruled by the CPCh

For one to understand Xi Jinpings actions one needs to see the development of Chinese Socialism as a whole.

Deng put Economic development as the most important goal for China so it can meet the needs of the Chinese People. Only if the Productive forces are developed enough Socialism can be build. So they needed to take a few steps. This goal of ecnomic development continued under Xiang Zemin and Hu Jintao Xi is now promoting Marxism again and starting to grip the economic tighter. China never gave up their monopoly on the economy and the DoTP

He's been shitposting on Zig Forums this entire time and we didn't even notice.

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Why do you think Xi feels the need to emphasize Marxism and simultaneously emphasize the Scientific Outlook On Development, then? If the CPC was just a bunch of revisionists, there'd be no reason for him to constantly argue for the Scientific Outlook. It's not like he's addressing these speeches to a small clique of American communists. He's emphasizing these points constantly because there's an internal debate in the CPC over how soon to go back to hardcore Maoism.

Lenin hat are you Chinese?

Honestly, if this isn't true shit just don't make sense. China is praising Marxism to the world, not just Communists. What do they have to gain by trying to convince a few powerless people (you and me, for example) that they're serious?

Could you rephrase this? I don't know what you mean.

F

Urban chinese people have a fully capitalist mentality. It doesn't make sense for comrade Xi to exalt marxism if socialism has been on the decline as an idea for the people themselves. Unless…

Basically, I don't see what China gains by celebrating Marxism if they aren't serious about it. If they aren't being genuine, all they get are a few Western Commie's support, which is meaningless. If they aren't being genuine, then they are also tricking their own population, who I'd feel would catch on eventually. Idk, maybe I'm an idiot.

Yeah agreed. It's also pretty crazy to think that the CPC is upholding Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao just to trick proles… Like if they are that scared of pissing off the Chinese proles, what does that tell you? That's a DOTP right there. There's literally no capitalist country in history that has ever deliberately told workers to read Marxist texts, assigned them as mandatory reading in school, installed communist party cells in all factories, etc. That would be suicidal for an actual capitalist country.

I don't really care what China's official line is as long as uncle Xi send me a Type 96 for the revolution.

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No, Iam german

Just waiting for uncle Xi to kill the US economy in the trade war.

Not gonna lie this is the sexiest modern MBT I've ever seen.

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Exactly! For a Capitalist Country it woud be more than dumb to educate the Proletariat on how to topple them!

Yeah, but that's where One Belt, One Road comes in. They are unlocking the Eurasian space as one big sink for their products.

Lmfao

On the other hand, Xi is fucking loaded. Why would he support ideas that ultimately threaten his wealth?

because he's a good boy billionaire who loves communism and doesnt afraid of anything

Well, what are you asking? Why does he instruct everyone to read Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao, something he is factually doing? I guess he just believes it.

The other Lenin hat is here shit

I'll settle for a Chinese pickup truck. If I lived in Australia or the UAE, then I could buy one, but I don't. The finish probably ain't great but they cost as much as a compact car.


So, in Xi's books he says that China is halfway through the "primary stage of socialism" (Mao: preliminary stage of socialism) that will take 100 years. The goal now is to continue building up the productive forces to turn China into a "moderately prosperous society by the centenary of the CPC in 2021 and in turning China into a prosperous, democratic, culturally advanced and harmonious modern socialist country by the centenary of the People's Republic of China in 2049."

Xi also waned against the "four risks:" inertia, incompetence, being divorced from the people, and corruption. This is what precipitated the 2013 anti-corruption campaign. The solution he says is the Marxist mass line which will also attack formalism, bureaucratism, hedonism and extravagance.

Anyways your guess is as good as mine whether Xi really believes that China in 2049 will become socialist. Or maybe it's some kind of spin on "convergence theory" where capitalism and socialism merge.


One Belt, One Road is to also tackle unequal or uneven development (I forget which term they use) as that's a big thing in CPC language. A lot of those rails lines, highways, distro hubs, etc. is running through rural western China. There's a massive infrastructure program underway out there right now.

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Um, sweetie

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Yeah I'm reading Governance of China right now. Here's an epub for anyone interested:
twitter.com/soviettes/status/984422809156898821
gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=C2F9E38C53DD644B53CF5F27518539C4

So far into the book, it's mostly just a speech collection. You get a good idea of how Chinese politicians talk and what their main goals are, but you don't get much theory at all. He mentions important theoretical works pretty often though. The big one for Chinese Socialism is the Scientific Outlook on Development. If anyone has a good source explaining it, could they please post it ITT? Here's what I have:
gabrielperi.fr/1380.html

I have no idea what is being said in this CCTV program on Marx at 200 (seems like Marx 101 type stuff) but it looks pretty killer:

youtube.com/watch?v=LSYaEHkH7rQ

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has Xi advanced Marxist theory?

Here's my summary:
a) Marx explains that the circulation of commodities is a transfer of value or "change of form." This circulation is always paired with money in buyer-seller transactions. These commodities are constantly being consumed and removed from circulation while the money continues moving. (p77)
b) He then goes into a long (and kind of dense) explanation how value is actually changing shape as it moves through the economy, changing from "commodity form" to "money form" to use-value ready for consumption, etc. He then concludes that the movement of money is actually expressing the movement of commodities as they change form.(p78)
c) Marx continues by stating that for commodities to circulate, it follows that the sum of prices for all commodities must always equal the sum of money being simultaneously circulated, since in each transaction money and commodities must change hands. (p79)
d) Marx then takes a slight digression to remind us that we don't want any more baboons fuck baboons all baboons in zoos the value of money is ultimately (in his time, at least) determined by the money-commodity which it represents. Gold, silver, etc. He then discusses how changes in the value of this commodity will also affect prices of other commodities due the relationship he just mentioned. (p79)
e) He then repeats that the sum of all prices being realized equals the sum of money being circulated, and how an increase of commodity prices means an increase in the sum of price which necessitates an increase in the sum of money being circulated to realize transactions.(p80)

honestly this is pretty based
even though i think china has a very different view of marxism to most MLs on here and around the world and i'm not fully sold on china myself, i do like how they manage to piss off the US and booj economists endlessly

meant century, dammit

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi_Jinping_Thought

So what the fuck is going on with China?

Socialist or not socialist? Imperialist or not imperialist? Why they gotta make things so confusing?

Very roughly.

The current mode of production in the People's Republic of China is Capitalism.

The leadership of the Communist Party of China is Socialist, they are planning on moving their economy towards Socialism once the productive capacities of the country have developed enough. Famously known as Socialism in 20 years.

Allegedly, China's forays in Africa are imperialistic in nature. Some argue China develops the infrastructure in Africa for development nor extractive economies so it doesn't qualify as neo-colonialism.

I know you guys will probably not like my super hot take but my guess is that this isn't about Marx, but geopolitics. Xi foresees a future where the Chinese economy may have to become closed again and is cooking some form of neo-maoist nationalism that is appealing to party members, the rural peasantry, industrial workers, and the business elites. Basically a state ideology that pleases everyone.

So basically 5D chess, but domestically, whatever the case Xi doesn't care about you and won't give you any tanks , unless he tries to destabilize western governments that is, but my guess is that the Chinese government will be too busy controlling its own country to do that.

So I'm assuming we'll expect Chinese socialism in the decade of 2020?

That's a weird take. If it was only about controlling the populace, why not just go with an extreme top-down model with the bourgeoisie at the top, rather than mass-lining them?

In China, communism is a far cry from the mass popular movement it was halfways through the 20th century, and it's not growing in popularity. Despite what the anti-china shill we have posting in here says, communism is not popular enough in the mainland to justify Xi's rhetoric being based around it. Chosing marxism-populism instead of doing what the reactionary Russian Federation does with
straight nationalism would be pretty bizarre in such an scenario.

We can only hope.

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I think it's copypasted from a news article.

MLs and their progeny tend to use the term "Socialism" to describe a stage between Capitalism and Communism (kinda like Capitalism trying not to be Capitalism?), which is of course a revision of the original Marxist texts but if you allow them this obstinancy then their theory stops sounding nonsensical.

Well I mean , thats what I've found, at least.

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just sounds like policy directions tbh

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You don’t need to reintroduce capitalist markets to grow the economy. You can just do five year planes. China didn’t do five year planes because it was controlled by a bureaucratic class that benefited from a return to capitalism. So that’s what they did. They returned to capitalism.

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China does 5 year plans again now though.

Not even Hoxha pushed it this far.

they've always done them
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-year_plans_of_China#Seventh_Plan_(1986–1990)
but it's for debate to what extent planning has been deepened over the years. the recent plan seems like a series of targets rather than a complete plan but maybe i'm wrong

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No I'm the REAL other Lenin hat

Not really, he just called it lower phase communism.

it's not a fetish. some of them are beautiful

Wrong:while Chinas Government never really was a Corrupt Oligarchy,the Opening up and reform phase of China, started by Deng Xiaoping, led to a Curruption Problem inside the CPch. Xi Jinping has called for a big Anti Corruption Campaign that arrests Politicians that commit fraud to the People of China.


Ahh yes, one of the favourite claims of western "socialists" against China. You see, the Capitalist US bombs the Middle east, claims it is for the "fight against terror" , claims Land and extracts valuable resources from their Land. China, on the other hand, builds Schools,advances the infrastructure, fights malaria,creates Jobs etc. Africa gets a sharehold of China's SOES. So China advances their Enconomy and advances Africas Economy. China is helping Africa to develop not exploiting them.


Literally just "Capitalist Country does thing other country does thing so they're the same XD"


Same shit as the KPD/ML in the GDR Millitant Groups that fight Socialism in their Country often backed by Anti Communist Forces like the CIA


It's a socialist Market economy, with plans that focus on the well being of the People


Are you kidding me?

The Wages of the working people Increase steadily with 11% per YEAR that doesn't happen in Capitalist countries.


Aside from the fact, that this indicates if a country is socialist or not, it isn't true like at all.

While China has Evironmental Problems, China is Fighting it like no other Country. China is investing in renewable energy and fighting Pollution like no other Country.Capitalist Countries don't do this, of course, because it is not profitable to do so but China isn't Capitalist

news.cctv.com/special/Marx/index.shtml

Marx TV show airing on China atm.

Will it be available in English?

Oh gee, I wonder who's behind that post? China's a capitalist society and you know it, faggot

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This is a clue that they actually might just be socialists. If they weren't, they would not still be toeing the line after 40 years of opening up.

Broke: China is capitalist
Joke: China is communist
Woke: China is Titoist
Bespoke: China is Bukharinist

So is anyone going to put subtitles for "Marx is right" or will Anglos never be able to watch it?

fuck it i'm on the china train

the KPD/ML was backed by the CIA? I find that hard to believe

China shoulf have adopted Bukharinism in the 1950s though…

you could say the same about the USSR in the 1920s but they didn't, they still managed to develop rapidly

No, but it was a Millitant Party fighting evil "State Capitalism" but end up fighting Existing Socialism

Sorry, I misphrased that

you can tell he's such a genuine communist because he pays lip service to communism a few times a year, particularly on notable leftist anniversaries, and because Chinese conservatives, I.e. old school Maoists face the same repression liberals do.

Didn't the USSR have pretty bad environmental problems? Rapid industrialization and deforesting and all.

fellas how do we get the CPC to fund communist parties in the west?

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Wew