Kampuchea

somewhere around where the genocide started, I think.

The Zapatistas always gave me that vibe, man.

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this

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The way the world is going now, 90% of people will die and the end result will probably be neo feudalism.

All of the answers you'll get will be usually be a bunch of idealistic bullshit.

See

The policies of the Khmer Rouge were not primarily the product of deficient thinking or something. They flowed quite clearly from the situation at hand. They may have made a virtue of necessity, but necessity it was.

There are things to criticize about them, like their anti-Vietnamese nationalism, but HURR DURR AGRARIAN UTOPIANS WHO KILLED MUH 2 GORILLION isn't one of them.

The Khmer Rouge absolutely can not be understood outside of the context of the complete destruction of their country by US imperialism. To quote Manufacturing Consent:

The final U.S. AID report observed that the country faced famine in 1975, with 75 percent of its draft animals destroyed by the war, and that rice planting for the next harvest, eight months hence, would have to be done “by the hard labor of seriously malnourished people.” The report predicted “widespread starvation” and “Slave labor and starvation rations for half the nation's people” for the coming year, and “general deprivation and suffering . . . over the next two or three years before Cambodia can get back to rice self-sufficiency.

The more you research the context in which they operated, the more you'll realize that the blame lies primarily on US imperialism.

It's always funny to me how there are like tens of thousands of communists who will defend Stalin with a straight face, yet as soon as the topic of Cambodia comes up every single communist instantly folds in bending to bourgeois public opinion.

All of them.

He was NazBol gang.

That's because Pol Pot outright admitted he wanted to kill a certain amount of people unlike Stalin.

That, and we can also thank reactionary Vietnamese puppets for invading Kampuchea and making the situation even worse.

I should have pointed out as well that their economic program was primarily based on advancing from self-sufficiency in rice production to using the surplus to fund industrialization.

Pol Pot: "We also intend to transform the backward agricultural Cambodia rapidly into an industrialized Cambodia"

what a weird name for a revolutionary union

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Got a source for this fairy tale bullshit?

None.

if you mean that NazBols are just Nazis with a fetish for Commie aesthetics then yeah

haha, so ol' noam will defend pol pot but not any marxist-leninist state, unbelievable

All of them. Just you. Your loved ones. Take your pick.
Actually no, just human nature and all of the good in the world.
Also the children.
And the Anime girls

I think it's more about not letting US imperialism off the hook for being responsible for a million plus dead Cambodians.

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Vietnamese stopped a genocide and stabilized the country's economy after years of KR mismanagement.

Source: archive.org/details/KampucheaTheRevolutionRescued

Chomsky did act as an apologist for Pol Pot tho. Ismail posted this once as evidece:

"There is a disputed border. The Cambodians feel that historically they sort of got the worst end of it. From their point of view, they were defending themselves against the spreading of Vietnamese power or potential spreading of it. The Vietnamese do not expect that they will suffer in world opinion very seriously and, in particular, that they will suffer in those segments of world opinion that are possibly sympathetic to them. For example, the European Left and different Left liberal types. These groups have been conducting an enormous and hysterical campaign about the Cambodian regime, a campaign that really was quite unprecedented in scale and, in fact, involves a fantastic overlay of lies. . . All this hysterical condemnation of Cambodia didn't contribute to saving lives. But it did help to create a climate in which the Vietnamese aggression could take place."
(Noam Chomsky in Mother Jones, April 1979, p. 35.)

maoists and chomsky sound very similar here…

They literally killed people because they felt like it, Khmer ideology was a fucked up moral system at the core. This is why Vietnam invaded their asses to begin with, because Khmers kept crossing the border and killing random citizens.
Pol Pot wasn't protecting Cambodia from American imperialism, he was a useful idiot for the West the entire time. It's a sort of open secret that the US government backed him for the sake of political expedience, which it currently denies, because Kissinger is a special snowflake that can do no wrong.

He wasn't an apologist as much as he was a skeptic. US media reports on Cambodia were flaky and inconsistent because the US government was secretly backing them.

Some of the shit in this book could have just as easily been written by some rabid American anti-communist:

..yawn..

"The city captured by the liberation forces was no prize in any immediate sense. There were few stocks of arms and ammunition and no fighter jets or tanks or heavy artillery. No raw materials, no spare parts, and for want of fuel, almost no electricity. Much of the city was without water. There were no medicines or other hospital supplies. And above all, no food. The rice supplies on hand were only enough to feed the city for less than a week.

The country overall was not in much better shape. The Lon Nol regime had indicated half a million dead on its side; another 600,000 were reported killed in the liberated areas (out of a total population of between seven and eight million). Hundreds of thousands of the survivors were badly maimed or crippled. The last dispatch sent out by the USAID reported that Cambodia had "slipped in less than five years from a significant exporter of rice to large-scale imports, and when these ended in April 1975, to the brink of starvation".28 At least half the rice fields had been dug up by bombs or lay unplanted. The American air raids and fighting had killed off the bulk of the water buffalo used to pull ploughs, along with cattle and other farm animals. Almost half the country's population had been driven from their homes. The country's motorways and railroads were shattered, the rivers clogged with the carcasses of sunken ships.

These were the circumstances under which the liberation forces evacuated Phnom Penh and other major cities almost as soon as they entered. Further, they had no way to know whether or not the US would renew its bombing raids. War was still raging in Vietnam. Only a few weeks later, on May 12th, the US was to stage the Mayaguez incident, in which the capture of an American freighter carrying military supplies in Cambodian waters was the pretext for another US attack, destroying most Cambodian naval facilities and knocking out the country's only oil refinery at Kampong Song.

The US and other imperialist press wailed that this evacuation was a death march, but even the most unfavourable reports give no evidence of that. As a New York Times reporter described it, "in fact, it was a journey away from certain death by starvation… [which] was already a reality in the urban centres.""

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Famine continued to ravage Cambodia under Vietnamese occupation. The occupiers and their People's Republic of Kampuchea encouraged peasants to form "solidarity teams" to maintain the earthen waterworks built under the CPK and pursued some of its economic goals as well. The CPK's successor in power, the Kampuchean People's Revolutionary Party, called itself a continuation of the CPK founded, they declared, in 1951.

bannedthought.net/International/RIM/AWTW/1999-25/PolPot_eng25.htm

As the war ended, deaths from starvation in Phnom Penh alone were running at about 100,000 a year, and the U.S. airlift that kept the population alive was immediately terminated. Sources close to the U.S. government predicted a million deaths…

The final U.S. AID report observed that the country faced famine in 1975, with 75 percent of its draft animals destroyed by the war, and that rice planting for the next harvest, eight months hence, would have to be done “by the hard labor of seriously malnourished people.” The report predicted “widespread starvation” and “Slave labor and starvation rations for half the nation's people” for the coming year, and “general deprivation and suffering . . . over the next two or three years before Cambodia can get back to rice self-sufficiency.

~ Manufacturing Consent

Unlike other peaceful, fun loving commies amirite? They should have looked to the upstanding morals of the Albanian anti-religion campaign, for instance:

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"Most of them were beaten on their bare feet with wooden clubs; the fleshy part of the legs and buttocks were cut open, rock salt inserted beneath the skin, and then sewn up again; their feet, placed in boiling water until the flesh fell off, were then rubbed with salt; their Achilles’ tendons were pierced with hot wires. Some were hung by their arms for three days without food; put in ice and icy water until nearly frozen; had electrical wires places in their ears, nose, mouth, genitals, and anus; burning pine needles placed under fingernails; forced to eat a kilo of salt and having water withheld for 24 hours; boiled eggs put in their armpits; teeth pulled without anaesthetic; tied behind vans and dragged; left in solitary confinement without food or water until almost dead; forced to drink their own urine and eat their own excrement; put in pits of excrement up to their necks; put on a bed of nails and covered with heavy material; put in nail-studded cages which were then rotated rapidly."

The US government was secretly backing Pol Pot *after* he was overthrown by Vietnam.

Except the author is a rabid American communist who happens to agree with the Vietnamese (also rabid communists) that Pol Pot's atrocities were genocidal.

The difference is you are portraying Mr. Pol Pot as a communist whereas the Vietamese and the author of the book realise that is not the case at all.

Here is another read by a veteran leftist correspondent: archive.org/details/ChinaCambodiaVietnamTriangle

gtfo faggot

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Nothing wrong with that.

It's so fucking pathetic how readily the radical left accepts Holodomor tier propaganda when its directed at Pol Pot. The only reasons you give for Pol Pot not being a communist are liberal propaganda or mindless shilling for Vietnam.

I recommend everyone doubting the Khmer Rouge's legitimacy watch this interview of one of its leaders. He addresses many of the bullshit claims made against the them.
youtube.com/watch?v=PKHGxu7vd-g

lol

I don't care who he says he is if he's spouting bullshit.

I don't think Pol Pot was a communist, at least not in the sense of being a proletarian revolutionist. I don't think the Vietnamese were either frankly.

I just think it's funny how quick communists are to parrot the mainstream narratives of le ebil khmer rouge .

I'll take Revisionist USSR over collaborationist China and the literal UNITED FUCKING STATES any day.

"When I die, my only wish is that Cambodia remain Cambodia and belong to the West," said the tyrant who presided over one of the most murderous regimes of modern times. "It is over for communism, and I want to stress that."
washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1997/10/28/second-thoughts-for-pol-pot/8833f234-7687-400b-84d3-d8259f7afe69/?utm_term=.f9083b79ea18

Got a reliable source for that? Or are you just blindly repeating imperialist lies?

the khmer rouge was public enemy number one for the vietnam reds, whom were by and large based as fuck

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Go back to reddit you ultraleft troll

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He's quoting the Washington Post article.

Saved.

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This is how retarded you sound right now.

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oh, so trots think disliking the literal CIA is bad now somehow? Oh my oh my, what an interesting development.