Any videogames that kill Nazis is now branded "Anti-Whitė" or "Communist Propaganda"
Here are some creepy low lQ rightists bitching about "Communism in Videogames"
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But it's not just that, it's everything fun. From hentai to movies. Rightists were calling the Star Wars films "Marxist". Hentai is "Degeneratė". I can't be the only one noticing this trend (especially on YouTube) rightists seem like very unhappy people all the time. Worse than SJWs.
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The Spectacle has so deeply suffused modern life that increasingly, to exist at all you have to exist in media. That's part of the push for "minority representation" in bourgeois media. To the bourgeois, if it's not on TV, it doesn't exist. If there's no identity representation, then that identity, and subsequently the people that embody it, don't exist.
The Aut Right responds to this in the same way the Aut Left does when it comes to having a gay trans disabled person on TV (or whatever). The Aut Right is getting so asshurt about Nazis being video game cannon fodder because the aggression against their identity avatars is interpreted as aggression against themselves.
The ideological hegemony of capitalism has grown so enormous we are made to believe that this is the end of history and philosophy. Unable to even imagine any change to the current society we turn to criticizing dreadlocks, soy drinks and diversity in videogames instead.
Everyone over the age of 13 online seems unhappy to me.
This kind of post are fucking cancer.
No shit. They are retarded, but you are no better. Nor are people like you on youtube who make 8k a video virtue signaling them without having a basic grasp of what would drive people in 2018 in beliving this shit. Also "muh Autism Level" is a Zig Forums argument.
On the same level, the problem is that "nazis" are fucking misguided and think they are fighting corporate culture when they are asking for pre-obama corporate culture.
If they had a grasp of how capitalism works they'd understand that most of the stuff they hate is just a bi product of corporations wanting to make a quick buck with the most inoffensive and mass market commodity possible.
They question would be now, is the "left" doing to explain this? Because from what I see the point that people with a bit more platform than me are: a) straight up defending corporate culture (Hbomberguy, Contra, Shaun comes to mind)
b) saying that corporate culture is bad, but complaining about it is stupid (this board comes to mind)
Yeah the spectacle is shit in whatever form, but it's also a great tool of propaganda. Ignoring this is refusing to adress one of the greatest influence on society. While you got great people like corbyn, melanchon, cockshott, parenti, wolff, varoufakis around they don't don't talk much about ideology and social problems of capitalism. This way you automatically lose the majority of the first world. Since we live in the neo liberal era, we should start addressing the fact that the greatest contradiction today in the first world (beside the usual stuff) is consumerism and ideology.
But again, what are communists doing? Why we don't reconize that slavery is not only a sweat shop but the hype before black friday? If you really are against capitalism and you really interested in spreading ideas communist should start talking about ideology more.
It may seem trivial but take every major riot in first world in the last 10 years. Why it always become about looting?
As much as I hate Zizek he has an excellent point on this. Problem is that he's a Buffon and too cryptic, so normal people ain't gonna waste time with him
Hbomb and Contra are funny… Or at least they have fun. Can you find one rightist youtuber that mocks himself/herself and political views in a comedic way? I can't.
Rightists always punch down. Comedy is about punching up. Thats why right wing "comedians" like Crowder are so unfunny. They only get "laughs" in right wing echo chambers. Leftist comedians like George Carlin are loved by everyobe because he punches up. Joke about cappie wall street crooks. Not working class unionists that you attack and sell the footage to Fox news.
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does that mean that if we created videos of nazis being executed in a video game while playing socialist music over it that we can trigger them?
we can just use some arma mod like iron front that's ww2 themed or use the nationalist faction from arma 2 as a target, put them against a wall and shoot them up
i'd do it myself but i have no video editing program or any experience on it
No they are not and they are liberals. They are no better than the right when it comes to this. And that was not my point, I'm saying that they are causing damage.
No, thats trying to hard. They are killing there own movement by being emotional right wing SJWs.
Hbomb calls himself a Socialist, and has some books on Marx. Soo…
Because they're fucking retarded and are unfortunately American. Just ignore them.
but wouldn't that basically be like them doing something similar to trigger liberal SJW by shooting at women and blacks etc.?
just use black or jewish looking characters shooting up nazis instead and make them bleed out of their ass by the sheer power of asshurt it causes
So what? He's an idiot who calls stalin a fascist and never said a marxist thing in his life. Redliberals call themself marxist too, are they?
i just realized i described the last Wolfenstein
This is repeated often by liberals and some on the left, but it isn't true from experience. While Crowder is unfunny, he's unfunny because he doesn't understand humor, not because he's on the right.
Fuck off, bunch of fucking autist.
explain your autistic screeching
If you're happy you can't be a communist.
Many of these lite fascists are potential comrades, but since there is no left (and leftypol is just shameful) they articulate their opposition to the current social order in reactionary ways.
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You are conscious that you used the last wolfenstine game too. Basically you are not against corporate culture when it trigger the nazis. This is class collaborationism. You are also a retard because trigger the nazis is not what the left should do, you are a communist just because you want to virtue signal a bunch of autist.
Idk about the other guy but Contra seems to be a commie. I'm pretty sure many liberals consider her content to be offensive.
No she's not, there is a fucking thread in the first page where we shit on him. They guy is a liberal, who says that communist is too scary and we should abbandon old aesthetics in favor of vaporwave and epic memes. In the video "problems with capitalism" she also butcher marx and shows her ignorance.
No communist ever would even use a title like that tbh. There are no problems of capitalism, capitalism is the problem
this is just as disgusting ingratiation as jasons apologism for anitas feminist frequency scam
i am against corporate culture
i'm not against triggering nazis
i was talking about a different game earlier, a military sandbox game, but really it can be anything
i wouldn't be surprised if they'd pop a vein just for drawing stickman figures, but since video games are hitting them closer since it's all they got in their life, why not?
it's not. you obviously don't know what that word even means and are just throwing a tantrum. why so butthurt?
oh really?…
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you don't know what that means either, do you?
geez i really wonder who could be behind this post
I can't say only right-wing people do that. On the Left everyone from Chapo to Phil Greaves has their own take on every single piece of pop culture that basically boils down to "this is Fascism"
IMO, if you're a materialist all that shit should be short of pointless to you.
this retarded Zig Forumsack isn't even trying to pretend that he has no idea what he's talking about
what next, close down all communist youtube channels?
torture is fun. by the way, russians have no understanding of morality
Oh no? So alliance with liberals is ok?
Contra, muke, shaun, hbomber should be fucking shot. Even that three arrow faggot.
You don't need to be an ML, but at least don't fucking pander to liberals.
Sorry if my opinion is not good enough for you, but I don't think there is nothing inerenthly wrong with trying to explain to explain thing to people with reactionary tendencies. And some people are more concerned with triggering them than doing some explaining or analizing the fenomen.
Tell them they are wrong on a principle is not explaining, it's a circle jerk
You didn't understand the video then. Not surprised though, because, unlike rightists', her videos show more advanced philosophical and political thought.
you have something that needs a name, imageboard mentality, you are so addicted to this place you think those people are relevant, and are "our guys" because they visit an indonedian shadow theater forum, while people like contra are the big other because they use different websites. I recommend taking a break from chans, maybe reading some books
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Because this amd because also the spectacle has stopped being fun in of itself. Consumer culture has shifted to consuming for the sake of outraging people. This all started with the aut-rights "lol epic sjw take down comp #36312" and now most western leftys are picking up the same to "trigger" the right by doing their own take downs and picking up communist athestics.
Instead of triggering we need ideas, plans of action and policies. Lets be real the majority of the movement are radlibs right now but thats opened the window to get marxisim back into the mainstream and to educate and build a real base instead of angry larpers grasping at anything to make sense of our collapsing system.
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So close yet so far. Precisely because of this we cannot do anything with it. I made this very point in the gang of four thread: the spectacle is structurally unsuited to being turned against itself, it can only ever be a driver for the production and consumption of commodified spectacle. You will never, ever harness say a popular youtube channel into a venue for communist propaganda, or a popular music video, or whatever. There is nothing for the communists to be doing with the spectacle except for hoping to one day strangle it in red tape after power has been seized. And that will only happen via tried and tested methods like participating in mass politics via IRL activism, or the occasional successful uprising.
As far as making public statements against consumer culture goes… I guess? But then you dismiss we can't "say it is bad and complaining about it is stupid". But… it is bad, and complaining about it gets tiresome. I mean, after the 685th article praising the wokeness of Black Panther, what else is there to do but just click away, or making a bitter shitpost? It's all been said a thousand times over. No amount of poingant critique will deter the spectacle as long as this shit keeps generating outrage, thus generating money.
The closest thing I can think of that actually formulates systemic critiques while ignoring spectacle would be things like RLM's takes on Hollywood filmmaking. It's not that popular.
Leave and don't come back.
Not always. They sometimes can be funny when they punch up at liberal capitalists they dislike.
No you dumbass, my post was not alogetic, it was critical of the left embodied in larpers like you, for you communism is reducible to pleasures, "triggering nazi's" as you say, it's fucking pathethic.
If the left were strong and not pathethic like you, we'd win over many supposedly reactionaries. (Of course, in the last instance, those who remain reactionaries during an Event would be our enemies and dealt with apropriatly, but speaking of this in our times is just pure imagination and wish fulfillment)
This is a dumb thread. Surely you of all people should understand how the liberal-capitalist superstructure sidelines radical ideologies.
But user, that would go against the narrative of human vs orcs the board is adopting latley
Is everyone here a Zig Forums-tier retard?
Now that anti-SJWs is dying from incapacity to adapt, that the great Gamergate war is over with everyone involved dying from pure ideology or retreated in enclaves with no power whatsever, that gamers are now mostly reddit soyboy liberals normies, how about you stop the Hneolib circlejerk, and radicalise the new gamers.
It's not like it would be hard, just point out at lootboxes, exploitative labor practices of the industry, great projects getting shafted to cashgrab. You can't fuck this up if don't decide to suffer from permasmug of any "leftist theorist", any tech sector today is the definition of late stage capitalism.
How about we just stop with the consumer idpol altogether?
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Gamers wouldn't care about this since they benefit directly from it. It's like asking first worlders to care about the third. It's not going to work.
Others have already explained it well, but the asshurt over Nazi vilification in media is a facet of American culture in particular.
A major facet of the burger right wing is a belief that America and the reds represent the ultimate battle between good and evil, that the communist movement is literally a manifestation of pure malice and suffering that only exists to be a villain for the hero to conquer. Different rightists take this in different directions. In the case of the aut-right, it means historical revision that vindicates the Nazis. This is usually rationalized with their usual deus ex machina, i.e. the ebul jooz pit Aryan men against one another.
These people are delusional sperglords with an impulsive need to be contrarian, so they are generally unaware that to see Nazis as evil and destructive is perfectly normal and acceptable in American culture. They have zero exposure to politics outside of le SJWs on the internet, and being narcissists, they only value their personal experiences, no matter how petty and meaningless, so they view everything through this lens.
It seems like this place was far more bookish18 months ago ago.
I wonder where all the smarties went.
Presumably they got tired of the Reddit thought police constantly brigading us to pull us into the idpol hegemony.
That's bullshit, exploitation of the third world is a significant motivation for first world radicals. Any leftist with a brain understands that this has practical, not just ethical, implications for their own countries.
Gamers don't care because they are consumerists that don't know how economics work (ironic, given how they tend to be lolberts that use "BASIC ECONOMICS" as a trump card in arguments).
Brah, is every leftist allergic to even trying basic marketing? The radicalisation and new sense of community is the honey. You can't learn any fly theory if you don't catch any.
Even the most pro capitalist anti SJW ancap gamer ancap hate EA and Activision practices. If you want to break capitalist spectacle, whatever Soma the current lambda person have is your best bet.
It's not even "would it be possible?". As a leftist, liberating liberal Redditors from Funkopop accumulation and Netflix consumption should be a worthwhile goal by itself.
Most people who play games are either normies that only like shitty p2w mobile apps, or are much more open minded to niche products and willing to vote with their wallets. The actual capitalist exploitation in gaming is rooted in boring and complicated issues like IP law.
What sets "gamers" (as in a self-declared community) apart from other consumers is that they like being shafted. They are hypocrites, no different from the feminazis they think are somehow responsible for questionable business practices. They don't want to stop buying the shitty products they whine about because they have no personalities, video games are all they have in their lives.
Oh God, anyone but this guy. He is probably the stupidest anti-sjw person on Youtube. Seriously, even Sargon is more intelligent than him. CF is reactionism incarnate.
I will speak for myself here since I still play games and don't throw a sperg out for playing in the communist faction in Ro2 or anything akin to "lol commie" .
Of course if you put apart the butthurt wehraboos you end up with a bunch of people that I guess are the "please leave me alone with yours politics" stuff , in the old times you just killed nazis and there was that, now in their view maybe the developers are clearly trying to pass some kind of political message and they don't want to be bothered with that?
From hentai to movies , well I don't see movies that much , most of the times it is something related to history but not the "blockbuster" shit with super-heroes so I can't speak for itself but I guess it is just that "cultural marxism" thing they speak about.
Now hentai is something really really different and I bet you know it , it is quick , you can get it anywhere , anytime and free , connect it with the addictive feeling and it is a corruption of the body and soul , you probably aren't religious but maybe for those that do care a bit about salvation ( afaik most of them just do this in some sort of self-rewarding way or to sound like a puritan ) you would see it as something that could damage you.
And about unhappiness well it is normal , I wouldn't say we live in a constant state of depression or anything, the good man is able to hide whatever sort of pain be it emotional or bodily and transform it into a will to fight against it , maybe I speak for a small part of "the fascists" but after reading the the doctrine of fascism you will understand that the happiness that we most strive for is spiritual not material.
Yet to say that I would only hate the "reds" is a lie, jacobins , liberalists ,republicanists , masons the list is long but in the end like Enoch Powell said I fight for my nation not values.
Their entire MO is about getting angry over minor shit no one with half a brain cares about.
Three arrows has never claimed to be a socialist and has always been honest about being a social-Democrat
He admits he isn't a socialist but claims he is open to it
What's wrong with that exactly?
How is that a bad thing?
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Not true listen to cum town
Even though they're /ourguys/ they have an extremely 'problematic' sense of humor and it's funny as fuck
so basically in the case of Vietnam you'd be a hardcore vietcong but in the case of Germany you'd be a hardcore nazi?
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In short yes if that is the extreme I have to go to protect my nation to the point of becoming a communist, be so.
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these brainlets in the comments lmao
jfc everyone is shitposting while the mods are out getting hotpockets
The retard horde shits in approval too
These nice mods are just doing their job
maybe free speech is a joke. but anyhow, I play Grand Strategy when it comes to newer games. I can make Mahknovist Ukraine happen just as easily as Blue Shirt Ireland.
it is fun, because people can make their own history instead of it being played out for them.
not that I mind older games with focused storylines, but I tend to stay away from non-Strategy games that have a bias either way. I prefer games to stay apolitical unless its some world builder stuff.
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leftypol hasn't had all its threads pushed off the board
you don't know what shitposting is you fucking baby
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it is true but you have to keep in mind whats considered punching up or down is defined differently to different groups. To most people shitting on joos is punching down but to Zig Forums its punching up because they belieb 'joos control the world' or w/e. Similarly to liberals attacking BLM is bad because is you're punching down minorities. To MAGA conservatives shitting on BLM is good because BLM are considered to them black supremacists who think 'black lives matter MORE (than white ones?)' and racism was basically over in america until obama brought it back.
the new Wolfenstein is a shit tier game with 4+ hours of cutscenes and liberal pandering. It's doesnt remotely have an actual leftist bone in it. Its all idpol meant to garner praise from buzzfeed.
Consumer media is liberal and the rightists are mistakenly identifying it as 'marxist'. That doesnt suddenly make it good or actually make it leftist
I think its based on interviews and constant tweets of people who make those type of games.
They believe that their games are 'striking back at nazis' and expect everyone to congratulate them when really its an imaginary video game world.
Bad take, this is just video game corporations using it as opportunity to market, besides, these idiots are getting offended because they sympathize with nazis, not because video games are "virtue signaling"…….
Did the culture war exist on the internet before 2005?
BUT THE LEADER OF THE ANTI-FASCIST MOVEMENT IN THE NEW WOLFENSTEIN GAME IS A MARXIST THEREFORE THE GAME IS MARXIST PROPAGANDA USED TO TURN OUR CHILDREN GAY
This is true, but it's also what makes their criticism so completely stupid. The new Wolfenstein game simply reflects mainstream popular culture, it is entirely a product of the capitalist society they so ardently defend.
If these reactionary imbeciles wanted to be taken seriously, it would be much easier to point out how boring the gameplay is.
Because big organisations and politicians target 'racial inequality', 'gender inequality', 'islamophobia'. This happens at the expense of the people on the other side of it. If you promote anything except one people, and a lot will follow suit then of course people will be pissed. This manifests into a bunch of right wing persons taking the opposite extreme of the 'sjw' crowd who wants to turn every city into a refugee center. Sadly this particular brand of sjw seems to be successful in this. Mostly because refugees are a market that bourgeois organisations can use for easy profits.
I wouldn't at all be surprised that when the growth stops and recession hits that the pendulum will swing the other way. That is, the right wing anti refugees parties becoming very popular in Europe. As they would put the blame on the other group.
Left wing parties into Europe are now famed for turning cities into asylum seeker centers and generally having not much concern for the actual lower class. They are bribed and lobbied to no end by different orgs to push this insanity often.
Enslavement through consumerism works much better than through censorship and punishment. People will fight censorship and punishments, they won't fight themselves over getting upset on wasting their time on consumerist garbage. They will see it as a reward.
Meanwhile they get enslaved by debt so they keep working and fuel existing markets. Then in my country a large part of the population also gets enslaved by being made dependent on the government for subsidies while they shouldn't be. Mortgage tax reduction over here, its why housing is very expensive compared to wages in my country (Netherlands). So they would need that reduction otherwise houses go under.
I think the biggest problem is the one of people becoming debt serfs. I imagine that much of the success of anti migrant parties in the Netherlands is due to the fact that migrants are often given social housing + other subsidies. So they aren't being made into debt serfs (yet) and get a whole bunch of things for 'free' (to drive existing markets).
because arguing appeals more to us than entertainment media itself, and anger is fun. it's not satisfying but it's fun, it ticks that pavlovian box, it's why Tabloid newspapers sell and it's the newest form of the spectacle.
fun is often reactionary
nah comedy is about being funny, no more, no less, and this can tie into reactionary fun.
In any case, "Punching up" is a dangerous game. sometimes punching up simply validates the status of those above you. See Spitting Image, the famous UK comedy. Sure, calling Thatcher a Nazi Bitch is funny and it's punching up - but it's also validating her position of power and reinforcing her image as the "iron lady".
Perhaps in the attention economy the best thing is to refuse to punch them at all. Refuse to recognise them at all. Ignore them.
not sure if this is a level of bating that can appeal to me or genuine outsider status but i like it and you should never leave.
corporate capitalism > individual capitalism
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if there's one thing that needs to be strangled to death and dumped in a canal, it's imageboard mentality, that false sense of solidarity with people on the basis of the cultural and format-influenced elements of imageboards, even though in all other factors (personal, political, economic) you share nothing in common. it's absolutely insufferable and - from an entertainment perspective - just not funny if you're more than 12 years old.
I remember seeing that she's opposed to using violence to overthrow the capitalist system which is a pretty retarded and naive thing to believe if you're actually a communist or socialist
Here's the thing I dont understand about the punching up meme. Using that conception of things its okay to be an anti-semite because the average Jew is better off than the average white in the US for instance.
Good.
Things are getting better then.
That's fine and all, but if you're not German then you are an enemy anyway and if you are German, and come from a family that has been in Germany for over hundred years then you shouldn't kvetch about Hitler because he lifted Germany out of Weimar, which you cannot be sure that your forebears had survived for long enough to start the chain that birthed you.
Seeing how people were starving so badly from the jew propagated and pushed boycott against Germany, which relied on trade to feed her people and all that, after all.
Hating Hitler is hating the chance of your own life.
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It's more the notion that killing nazis is kinda retarded that is a sign of things getting better.
Not that "white" thing per se.
It's pronounced "Aut Kike"
Just look how prosperous Germany was when he was done
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so can i justify every state ever by showing some people smiling and playing an enya song over it?
Everyones place looked like this after the war, at least partially.
Yeah, but it will only work if the state was actually good.
Like NutSac Germany.
Pfff.
Alrighty then.
NatSoc Germany, you rapscallions.
Ill take that as a compliment
also germans are mutt hun rapebabies you disgusting sack of genes
You mean the war that Germany started? The kind of war that your ideology specifically advocates for? That war?
is there a more awkward to use reversal of right-wing terms in use out there?
Gee, how could this rub anyone the wrong way, this couldn't possibly be based off a certain slogan of a certain POTUS that Brainlets like to call a nazi.
You are acting like these games exist in a vacuum, and everyone who decided that the tagline should so directly reference IRL politics had no idea that DRUMPFFT existed, or that the team who decided the resistance leader would be a literal commie (Perhaps like a certain group of IRL people who "resist" somebody else?) had never seen protesters on the news.
The marketing was designed to stir up outrage and it did that, I would have though a commie would be more alert to corporate trickery.
yeah, those dang "rightists", hentai is a bastion of wholesome family fun, and porn in general could NEVER have an effect on how somebody thinks or acts.
You are genuinely autistic. That or literally a single digit Autism Level.
Here's your smug anime girl
Except they like "fun"
in fact I assure right wingers are the most degener.ate people
they just have really bad projection
Congratz you have an lQ of 41!
Go tell your rightists buddys.
Of course he isn't aware that 'degenerac.y' filters into 'fun'
I think you're not realizing that they do think they are punching up .(well when they aren't making fun of people they see as below them like LGBTQ or minoriteis, but even then they make excuses by pinning them to elites who are able to worry more about their identity than things that 'actually matter' ) . They believe they represent the common person working hard to get where they deserve to be, while others who are poor and not them are just bad and deserve to be where they are. The people they are punching at they see as the 'liberal elite in their ivory tower' ; The condescending ,educated, entitled upper class leftists who only care about social reputation among each other and ,who are out of touch with the average working class American .
I guess I just see this because I've been surrounded by white people with just enough money to scrape by on their weekly paycheck who buy into this narrative.
dis tbh
also contra and shaun are not funny, nor or they punching down
I like contra and shaun and all those youtubers, just to say .
But i do think a lot of people on the left get very snooty and turn their nose up at people who really just have grown up in an environment with bad access to education, and just laugh at these people for being stupid . I"m not trying to excuse racists , I"m just saying it comes off as hypocritical and ultimately not helpful to have this air of superiority . There is a reason the lesser educated fall for the right's tactics.Also , democrats get more money from affluent communities : capitalresearch.org
Now I assume most people here are against democrats , but i feel like some of the same attitudes just get ingrained in . I don't want to be like 'oh feel bad for the white working class blahh' when there are people in much dire situations who do not push other racial groups under the bus.
I just think maybe some more humility and trying to talk it through with people who don't have the same access to more liberal attitudes as you do because of the location they live in, is a good idea.
"Rightest" here. Those games and movies are seriously fucking shit. It's not even an agenda they are just bad. Especially the new Star Wars, they suck ass on so many levels.
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Sure but I am not even Zig Forums.