Any thoughts on this site?
Just found it and its well written and holds explanations of the creation and development of modern china as well as criticisms
Any thoughts on this site?
Blake Cook
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Dylan Cruz
good shit
Noah Turner
It's good. Dry as a bucket of sand though.
Ryan Taylor
FBI/DHS honeypot
Isaac Martinez
It's a good leftcom website. Probably the only place where you're going to find decent, in-depth analysis of contemporary capitalism in the PRC.
Jordan Parker
"State capitalism" is the laziest theory on the face of the planet.
Rather than attempting to explain the complex contradictions in places like the USSR and the PRC and how those places were/are qualitatively distinct from countries like the USA and UK, "state capitalism" just hand-waves the whole issue and says
"lol generalized commodity production, just capitalist, state capitalist, lol, read marx"
Even though anyone with a brain and some means of sense perception can see that what's happening in China is substantially and irrefutably different than the system that exists in the USA, which is itself state capitalist and therefore should be more similar than different if the "state capitalist" theories are correct.
Caleb Jackson
Oh never mind, clearly the journal subscribes to some theory of the PRC having once BEEN socialist but NOW being state capitalist, which is even worse than the leftcom theory that China was always state capitalist.
Christian Roberts
I thought state capitalism was the state overseeing the capitalist process, in order to blunt and soften its effects on the population, like NEP? I don't recall Soviets putting up suicide nets.
Charles Watson
There are a few different definitions of state capitalism:
By this definition, every major country on Earth is state capitalist, so the term is essentially meaningless.
This is how Lenin used the term and is, in my opinion, also applicable to the PRC in its own deformed way.
This is how leftcoms explain the USSR and similar countries. It's a purely theoretical idea, because the contradictions of capitalism would prevent any such corporate entity from gaining complete control of the entire economy.
Jackson Perez
It doesn't though. It's a leftcom website, they don't believe China was ever socialist.
Nolan Morris
How so?
Jeremiah Richardson
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Charles Cruz
Their articles say differently.
Many of them reference "capitalist integration", "post-socialist China", etc.
The commanding heights of the economy are overwhelmingly controlled by a state that clearly has little to no interest in obeying the profit motive. This defies the way we would expect a bourgeois state to behave, which would work primarily in the interest of the profit motive.
On the contrary, China State-Owned Enterprises not only constitute the vast majority of the highest levels of the Chinese economy, but they've also shown a strong preference for behaving as economic planners rather than seeking the most profitable solution to any given problem.
Additionally, the Chinese state has a monopoly on foreign trade; this is a state of affairs that would be unthinkable in a bourgeois regime.
You're asking a question of the kind of interference, rather than the scale of interference.
Which is also a point in favor of China being something other than a standard bourgeois regime, as much of their state intervention is clearly focused on reducing, to a large extent, income inequality and the rural-industrial divide. These are issues which no Western capitalist state, to my knowledge, focuses on very much, if at all.
Noah Howard
Yeah I always thought state capitalism sounded stupid. Isn't all capitlism state capitlism? You can't have capitalism without a state to print money and beat prols that touch the owning classes stuff.
Hudson Edwards
chuangcn.org
Great critique of american liberalism and explanation for "white trash" idolization of the body
Aaron Thomas
By necessity, capitalism is state capitalism
Ryan Powell
State capitalism doesn't mean "capitalism but the state does stuff", it means the state manages a significant chunk of if not all economic activity in the country.
Jaxson Lopez
State Capitalism is like Socialism with Chinese Characteristics and Lenin's NEP.
Jayden Cook
no
Oliver Clark
no
Julian Fisher
Read Sorghum and Steel.
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Cameron Thomas
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Asher Kelly
Welcome to the left.
Also nice trips
Sebastian Taylor
I'm not derailing it. Any journal that adheres to the "state capitalist" explanation of China's long and highly complex economic history is intellectually bankrupt and not worth taking seriously.
This is not a purely theoretical or abstract discussion. Whether or not we consider China to be a bourgeois state has a serious impact on our analysis of geopolitical relationships and our resulting plan-of-action.
China is, after all, one of the most (if not THE most) influential country in the world.
Owen Thomas
They've only published one issue to date, which contains a pretty extensive and well-sourced economic history of postwar China to 1969, in which they refer to the PRC as a "socialist developmental regime."
When Chuang ever gets around to analyzing the 70's onward I'm sure they'll explore it in more depth than simply proclaiming it "state capitalism" in one paragraph.
Tyler Cruz
nigga