defeatism is bourgeois. it defaults to a bleak view of the future because it can't think of a world outside of it's own capitalist boundaries.
happiness expresses a true revolutionaries healthy socialist attitude.
itt: denounce your bourgeois defeatism and spread joy.
Well, believing in having a shit life and disastrous end for yourself isn't at all unrevolutionary, and most communists hold just that to be true.
Karl Radeck or someone said something along the lines of "Every communist must be ready for a violent death, as we condemn ourselves when we choose this road"
In general, ambitiousness requires you to be reasonably unhappy and dissatisfied.
if you don't find happiness in becoming part of the liberation struggle and seeing a future free of exploitation, you're not a communist
being prepared for the consequences in taking up the fight doesn't say anything about having a negative mental attitude about going through with it in spite of the threat of any danger
oh wow, a stacheposter actually said something sensible? There's a first time for everything, I guess.
That's not Marxism, that psychobabble, that may or may not be true for certain types of people.
Defeatism is one of the greatest weapons in a man's arsenal if he knows which battles to fight and which battles are not important.
Revolution is an important one that must never be given up on.
You have no fucking idea what defeatism means do you?
Oh shit son, IS THAT BAZAROV?!
MY MAN
A topic opened due to something I said? How nice.
I said that in reaction to the op of the other topic, who was spouting pure ideology "why hate fun" in a very dismissal attitude, most movies are bourgeois ideology so it does make sense to dislike it, or even if one finds them somewhat fun to be able to criticize it. Anti-anti-fun are passive, adn thus reactionaries.
As zizek says, you're allowed not to have fun and to take things seriously, heck it's what we need nowadays, less shitposting, less memes, less irony, more seriousness.
That said I'd rephrase what I said, we should deny the bourgeois goal of happiness. It is indeed normal to be somewhat fulfilled when one takes the communist path even if it's a constant struggle, there's some sort of pleasure in sacrifice itself, and that's ok, but it's also a requirement to be unhappy with our present state of things, to have hatred. (but also love.)
I've recently realized that communism is basically scientific Utopianism. It rejects all naive Utopian visions without giving up the belief that something like a Utopia is possible.
The fundamental property of this Utopia shouldn't be happiness though. It should be more like universal struggle. A world in which we can all be these Nietzschean subjects pursuing our own values, creating our own art. It wouldn't make us all happy, but it would make our lives meaningful and beautiful. That's my goal.
Not really. Communism claims that movement in direction of Utopia is the only reform that's worth it, and every movement in the opposite direction is degradation. Socialism or barbarism, as the common saying goes.
At the same time, faith in its' realisation isn't something invoked here.
That's roughly why I said "something like a Utopia," and not plainly "a Utopia." To be a communist you don't have to believe in a perfect society, but you do have to believe in "something like" it relative to ours. I wasn't able to formulate it as well as you though.
You haven't read Demons
Who are you? Tony fucking Robbins? Take your self help pseudopositivity to the local convention center. The working class's lives are immiserated because the future IS bleak and offers us nothing. This state of nothingnes and dissatisfaction are preconditions for the construction of meaning and of a new world.
Socialism is a matter of survival though
I try to be optimistic but its hard not being a defeatist. The likelyhood of a revolution happening is slim guys. Material conditions are going to have to get a lot worse
and they will, capitalism is in the prolonged process of its final crisis. Once ordinary Americans can't afford to be the gaping maw that consumes all the world's overproduction it's over. Not even counting the fact that the earth itself is in contradiction with this mode of production.
which is why i explained communists have a positive attitude and know true happiness
because they struggle for the liberation from this misery
you are constrained by bourgeois defeatism, you can't inspire people, you are in need of inspiration
study more, young one
ahh the old "my comrades are holding us back" mentality
This will be America's undoing. Once people can't afford the luxuries they once had then there will be a chance for revolutionary conscience.
My comrades aren't holding me back they actually help but that doesn't excuse the liberal sectarianism that they spout. I still don't see the left doing anything. The teachers strikes are great but you gotta understand it was a general working class movement and not just leftist. The problem with the left is that they suffer ideology as well although it is a more moralistic ideology rather than reactionary ideology. Left/right spectrum is the original identity politics and is used to divide the working class. To bad the average leftist is too far stuck up his or her own ideological moral ass to even realize that if you want to unite the working class you are going to have to organize and unite with people you disagree with. And no I'm not saying fascists should team up with leftists, that's retarded. Truth of the matter is that the average prole is reactionary as fuck and the left wants to do is talk gender and racial semantics.
Sometimes I want to end myself more than I want to end capitalism
Communism isn't a religion. It's not the path to true happiness or whatever new age woo you're trying to sell. You can be a miserable cunt while thinking the abolition of commodity production is a positive historical development.
I don't want to. I want to commiserate with my fellow proles to share in our disgust for the current state of affairs. I'm not looking to be a messiah and I wouldn't trust anybody who did.
I'm probably much older than you so you can save the attempt at infantilization.
“I can’t imagine a worse experience than some idiot comes there and starts to ask you questions, which is still tolerable. The problem is that here in the United States students tend to be so open that sooner or later, if you’re kind to them, they even start to ask you personal questions [about] private problems… What should I tell them?”
“I don’t care,” he continued. “Kill yourself. It’s not my problem,”
I don't know how I can stop being depressed about the world. I certainly have hope for an end of capitalist oppression but I feel as though I am stuck in a malaise because of my self-perceived helplessness as I exist within the capitalist system and because of seeing its effects on others.
I wish I was more optimistic and hopeful for the future but capitalism itself prevents me from feeling that way.