Daily News Thread 5/14

The second question answers the first

OP/ED

Trump Willing to Give a China a Break on Sanctions Against ZTE Electronics. What Gives?

Trump again does what he seems to do best, the unexpected, with a Sunday tweet offering a break to sanctioned Chinese electronics maker ZTE. How does this fit into the US-China trade spat?
nakedcapitalism.com/2018/05/trump-to-give-a-china-a-break-on-sanctions-against-zte-electronics-what-gives.html

Media Debate Best Way to Dominate Iran

The debate in the New York Times and Washington Post over President Donald Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), better known as the Iran deal, revolves around which tactics America should use to dominate Iran.
fair.org/home/media-debate-best-way-to-dominate-iran/

Links 5/13/18

nakedcapitalism.com/2018/05/links-5-13-18.html

Day 480: A fucked-up feedback loop.

whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2018/05/14/day-480/

twitter.com/telesurenglish/status/996099073953411073?s=19
SOUTH AFRICA WITHDRAW THEIR AMBASSADOR TO ISRAEL INDEFINITELY

based.

Anybody that isn't a raging ☭TANKIE☭ should see that coming

"South Africa is awful, fuck those black people" Zig Forums says, "Israel is great, Trump is based" Zig Forums says

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What's the point of a vote if everyone is on the same page and going to elect this witch into terrible power and terrible might anyways

Don't forget these fucking vampires were eating not far from where the mass shooting took place

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Depends on if he gets to keep his nukes and reunify Korea under the WPK. If he does that he would be a thousand times more baller than Deng no matter what else he does.
I amused myself by running a few Chinese press releases through google translate, and none of them mention anything about the DPRK committing in any statements to denationalization, only vague language about "warming" "moving together" and "working towards". It would be hilarious if the bilked the US out of a few factories to reverse engineer all in exchange for closing a rickety test site.

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People who say that jews deserve a state after what Israel has done get the bullet too

Vampires, reptiles, demons, fucking aliens, I don't know what they are but none of these pink porcine fucking white boomer people have no lips universally. Just tight pale and pink skin stretched tight atop their grins like a fucking xenomorph

Why is Ted Cruz even there. Wanted to fulfill his Christian dreams?

Technically Israel is not even a Jewish construction. I mean Zionism certainly played a part, but at the end of the day it was a state made by the US and the UN, partly to play a strategic role in any further war (particularly with a nearby USSR)

Right now it's fulfilling it's designed purpose very well.

Think of Israel not as a state representative of a race, but of the ideology of Zionism, and an extent territory of the United States.

It has always been an extended arm of the United States, not vice versa the US an extended arm of Israel. America could do anything it wants, it's choices are purposeful, it's plans long term. It's nations it made all for a reason.

I know, but people still defend it

Oh I forgot, the US was interested in the surrounding region for its extremely strategic oil reserves far before most realize, again mostly for a strategic war at the time in name, in subtext profit of course.

The US and UN could have said "Hey, you can have diaspora, like the rest of the peoples of the world after the war, and spread where you want". They went with Zionism, but it was not for any Jews, because both of them benefited. It was the state apparatus of the Allies that laid in the post war years that saw enormous benefit of the creation of Israel not because they even agreed with Zionism but because of it's immense strategic power to create a basic US puppet state in between the USSR to the North, Muslims to the East and South; so where there are Muslims there is oil.

The US was, and has always been, playing Cowboy Oil Tycoon Lawrence of Arabia since Israel's inception, Israel's inception was actually the point. The reason the Palestinians have always been shat on is because they were always in the way of this greater strategic investment. The US won't care if they go the way of the Native American, they were in the way of another military base and another hotel.

It's always been the US' fault. Israel is the US' fucking mini me

This will start a war faster than any other hypothetical reason anyone will spout. The US will not allow this and will destroy Iran before it ever allows it to strengthen another nation's oil power, even if that nation is "technically" an ally.

Well we just can't have that can we?

btw can any Brasilian anons tell us who this misterious new challenger is?

Pictures taken at the same exact hour in Gaza and Jerusalem.

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Bloody Gina busting through the glass ceiling with torture tactics. Protectorate of the imperium's democracy. I'm so glad Bloody Gina, Mad Dog Mattis and Red Eye Bolton will save our democracy from the ayatollahs.

why are jews so revolting?

There are plenty of diaspora Jews. Israel is a perfectly planned US project, consider it an extra state

ah, to be a semtex on the wall of that room…

this meme is, was and will always be relevant

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The US can live without Israel, and Israel cannot live without the US. It is not one manipulating another, it is one facilitating it's entire existence since the end of the post war period. And it's not just for reasons of Zionism, though that gives it good public appeal throughout White Christian America

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For the reasons Israel even exists. It exists because the US wants it to exist, as does the UN.

TURKEY HAS WITHDRAWN AMBASSADORS FROM BOTH ISRAEL AND THE US FOLLOWING MAY 14TH EVENTS

twitter.com/NTarnopolsky/status/996112936249765889

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Turkey and Erdogan will collapse without the US. Nato is the only thing that keeps that shithole country afloat.
join the greater armenia/megali idea gang today

It's really disgusting to watch the Goebbels tier misinformation and lies being repeated about the IDF massacres. Can they really create competing realities forever?

AND THE US? HOT FUCKING SHITN ERDOGAN IS GOING TO LEAVE NATO, THIS IS NOT A DRILL
He is prepping for joining with Russia and Iran in the coming Irano-Israeli war, this is the big move they have been waiting to make.

no he won't. Stop living in a fantasy wolrd. Turkey opposes both Russia and iran in the middle east and the caucasus geopolitically. They won't align themselves with Russia ever. No Turkish or Ottoman leader has done that ever, and for good fucing reasons.

They are saying that Trump planned is so that the world would turn against Israel.

I refuse to believe that.

Obviously you are thinking in too few dimensions.

What? No one in the US government thought that Israel would even survive the war against the Arabs. The Soviet Union was one of the first nations to recognise Israel, also keeping in mind that Israel was a quasi-socialist (I know, I know) state with its hundreds of kibbutzes.

It was only with JFK in 1960 that the military alliance with Israel was cemented

Everything else you said is dumb Zig Forums-tier "All according to keikaku" tinfoiling. "If Israel is a major US ally now, obviously its creation was all part of a US scheme to ensure its future dominance in the Middle East"

Wrong, look up the Qatar crisis.

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lol no it isn't this "geopolitics is only in the short term" is bullshit you would never invest this much in nation building unless you had long term strategic plans for Israel as a nation. If Israel could foil under Arabs why would they fucking invest in it, they have always protected it because that's a lot of old money fucking invested into it from the post war period by both the UN and Britain and the US. I really did forget Britain's responsibility in the creation of Israel, and it's long term geopolitical shielding of it for that purpose.

As long as its a fucking investment, what can you do with it. There's obvious answers

This has been known for fucking aeons, and friendly fire tends to happen sometimes.

"Israel is actually not a puppet of the US and Britain but Israel somehow controls both despite being cemented and created by both foundational" still really is such a hot take for dumb people. A hot take for people who can only imagine in a concrete world without subtext.

They fucking invested how much in this nation? No, it isn't on that nation's behest as if they're asking for it, there has always been an ulterior weaponized motive in the foundation of Israel

Nigga I bet you didn

shit going on in the turkish coup.

Your thinking is not chaotic enough. This is not the result of some ancient conspiracy. It just follows from the probabilistic development of geopolitics. Three world powers (US, Soviet Union and UK) came out of WWII trying to balance each other in this area, and most of the pieces ended up being chunks of the rapidly disintegrating British Empire. From it developed Israel as a useful tool for the US, but this happened with many fits and starts, and it could well have gone other ways at any one time. No-one was pulling the strings all along.

Again, few actually expected Israel to survive its formative years. It was only with JFK, after Israel had already proven it could survive that the alliance was cemented.

Please, tell me how the US was behind Zionist emigration to Israel before WW2. Which US president was Herzl working for, by the way?

And? The US blew billions on South Vietnam, didn't mean they were going to send troops back there after North Vietnam invaded.

Yes, please put words into my mouth that I never posted, stated, or implied here. Please point out where I explicitly stated that Israel's creation happened because of Zionist/Jewish control of the US government and the British Empire.

Ah yes, that's why the first thing Britain and the US as part of the post WW1 settlement was to create the state of Israel.

Oh wait, that's not what happened, is it?

Britain was foundation for Israel where the fuck have you been, the rest of what you said is textbook repeated bullcrap, of course on paper this is how it all works

But the UN and Britain and the US does not give this much money into nation building for free. The nation itself serves a purpose, it didn't have to serve a purpose as soon as it fucking was born.

However the US and Britain, who have been foundational to its existence with its own money, have an interest in what it does and does not. It is an extension of US and Western Power in the region

How can you fucking argue otherwise you absolute idiot

Porky doesn't give away money for free like that. Nation building isn't a chaotic investment it's a point

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Remember, if you're a Zionist and decide to fill some unarmed protesters full of lead.. BLAME HUMMUS!

Zig Forums will eat it right up

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Porky is not one person. Israel was not always as wealthy as it is now. It got its start with scant funding from the diaspora who supported terror groups that targeted British soldiers and bureaucrats, and Palestinians. A lot of shit happened between 1945 and 1967, you can't just claim out of hand that it was a clearly set path without some non-circumstantial evidence.

3rd intifada fucking when

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never. By the time that could happen Palestinians will be all but extinct. Look at how some people are reacting.
literally no matter what Israel does, porky and the west will defend it. If these protests continnue, they'll just fucing gas the Gaza strip and nobody will bat an eye.

i hate this sentence so much

Arab countries: 21, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Morocco, Mauritania, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, the Comoros Islands, Iraq, Djibouti, and the United Arab Emirates. Almost all whom are close to 100% muslim due to persecution, emigration and outlawing of other religions

Jewish countries: 1. Israel, with a significant muslim and arab population, with a land area smaller than the San Francisco Bay Area.

Remind me again why we need yet ANOTHER failed arab muslim state and hotbed of terrorists when there are plenty of them the gypsy arabs known as palestinians can already move to?

go off yourself zionist, you'd shill for colonization anywhere if your "standards" of "superior" civilization are met, you are scum

reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/8jbd9v/israeli_forces_kill_ten_in_gaza_protests_as_anger/
like it or not, this is where you find the closest to a mainstream opinion. The comments are cancer. Some people bring up the possiblity of paid internet mercenaries and bots and whatnot, but those can't do this on such a large scale. People actually don't have a problem with dozens of people dying. It's disgusting

When was that ever put into question

And when was that the point

No it got its funding largely from the newly founded UN, Britain, and the US

Yes it did. And I'm implying none of it mattered.

Likewise you have circumstantial evidence that Israel was never a puppet state engineered for a very real purpose for Western Imperial Power

History speaks from the money of the victors, textbooks come and go from them. Textbooks say Israel was a nice state that was independent and free from Britain and the United States, they were actually hurt by Israel!

History tells us Israel and Britain and the United States have always conveniently had the same umbilical cord coming from the same investment into its existence made official into marriage by the newly formed UN founding its existence.

I'm not saying Zionism didn't play a part, I'm saying that it Zionism was always reactionary and in the benefit of the geopolitical state of things, just another reactionary state the Western Powers propped up. Only this time they were new to the idea and used much of their own fucking money.

The French nearly gave Saddam's Iraq the ability to create nuclear weapons for a "peaceful" nuclear reactor in the 70's during the Oil Crisis, in exchange for ability to have friendlier terms on Iraq's oil. You know what happened? Mossad killed the physicists involved once the international community was outraged at France, and the Iraqi physicists were sent by Iraq to France to contest France's decision to withdraw.

What does this have to do with anything? It means just because one or two Western nations in the past have acted out of the average consensus, it doesn't mean they're not very Western Nations. Yes, Israel has acted out in the past.

Who cares. It's still founded on Britain's money, on the United States' money. It's still a fucking investment. And most of all it's a Western Nation, particularly allied with the United States. Initially, more friendly towards Britain's investment. Zionism plays a part, but Zionism serves the West well. And Israel can serve many roles if it ever needed to in the 20th century, and it serves many roles today. As an extension

You're naive if you think they just slipped dick first into "serving Israel", that's not how this ever worked

Tell me again why we should sacrifice so many fucking lives in exchange for the existence of so very few

Hi Zig Forums, love the heel turn support of Israel

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Wow wonder how long till some Kurdish uprising "Spontaneously" begins armed with NATO Equipment

My Lord, a holy hand grenade would work swell.

My son you need dialectics and a history lesson.

Nah that is the opinion of boomers on the web, most people are fuckimg appalled (I have seen members of "Friends of Israel" groups go 'what the actual fuck'. This maybe the 1983 Constitution moment for Israel.

Watch the vote be 50Y/49N with McCain not present.

Oop, shitposting flag.

The absolute state of Zig Forums

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As a Turk: Erdoğan would leave if he could. It's just that the deep state he's been trying to infiltrate is very much against that idea (the term deep state was first used to describe Turkey, after all). He would side with Iran and Russia if he had the cards to play, but he really doesn't. But this leftypol meme that Erdoğan is some super NATO fan has to stop. Roh Ja Va memes have corrupted your minds lmao. You know nothing about the mindset of Turkish conservatives if you think they are supportive of NATO.

So what should the IDF do if they are not allowed to defend their border? The Palestinians are far too radicalized to be reasoned with at this point.

"Muh border", one you are obviously a burger, two the entire fucking point is that they were thrown out their homes on the other side of that border. Gaza is effectively one massive refugee camp.
Also in recent years the Palestinians have gotten beyond radicalism and have fallern jnto dispair: the deaths won't radicalise the palestinians jn Gaza to violence, the have no stomach for that anymore. No theynhave a choice, live in an open air prison or be shot protesting it, they choose the latter.
In other news, Israelis protest outside of the PM's home against the killings.
twitter.com/MairavZ/status/996100055240032256?s=19

Their border is a colonial and conquest like border. You know the whole tripe about immigrants invading countries? Yeah well Israel literally that, you fuckin retard

They could abandon Israel, find some tundra in northern Canada and make that holy. That could work, at the expense of the eskimos.

Well that's a perfectly valid excuse for:
-murdering 55 unarmed protestors (8 of which are children)
-shooting hundreds more
-injuring 2400 people

Just say they can't be reasoned with cuz they're terrorists. HELL communists should use that excuse when they send dumb burgers like you to the gulag.

Peace By Force: 9000
Actual Moral Diplomacy: BTFO

the left is becoming anti-semitic don't go too jail now.

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Why is Vietnam there wtf?

Criticizing Israel is anti-semetic.. It makes you literally Hitler!

You should look more into Vietnam. It's not socialist at all currently. I've worked in Hanoi and this was true.

Zig Forumss two faced nature is funny
You would think they would hate Patton for obvious reasons btw…

It literallly was the first nation to go full blown dengist
It was dengist before dengism was a thing

burger read a book

This is why normie boomer burgers frankly just need to be rounded up and shot.
t. also burger

By Indochina i mean Vietnam and Laos
Both of which are in Indochina and both of which claim to be """""Socialist""""

Vietnam did not attend gala to celebrate US embassy move to Jerusalem: foreign ministry
e.vnexpress.net/news/news/vietnam-did-not-attend-gala-to-celebrate-us-embassy-move-to-jerusalem-foreign-ministry-3749546.html
Now shut the fuck up.

Top lads

FYI Zionists own the NRA too

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The NRA is extremely reactionary. This isn't surprising. Fascists like other fascists.

Still fucking angry

American media is fucking insane
foxnews.com/opinion/2018/05/13/judge-jeanine-pirro-trump-sends-world-message-in-recognizing-jerusalem-as-israels-capital.html

underrated

76 dimensional chess

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lolwutm8 as if Obama didn't sign record weapon sell deals with Israel.
On Saturday, Iranians marched against the United States, protesting President Trump's decision to withdraw from their nuclear deal.
Ah, yes, a multilateral agreement is Iran's only.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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I'm pretty sure the "Jews" (zionists) get completely obliterated at the end of this prophecy though. God has abandoned his so-called "chosen people" for the true chosen people: the working class. The sins of the zionists will be remembered by history and they will receive punishment for them, just like the nazis did. Also daily reminder that the Zionists aren't just anti-muslim. They kill and oppress Palestinian christians as well.

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Check out this next level shill.

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