AntiFash-Wave and esoteric right wing hate thread

Anyone ever get tired of seeing fashwave when browsing normie social media sites? I hate it when reactionaries adopt progressive or new age shit. This thread is necessary

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I try to keep tabs on a local neo-Nazi / skinhead clique and the musician they're all into right now is Xurious. I like spooky goth stuff and can appreciate some fash music on an aesthetic level like DiJ, but Xurious is fucking garbage. Just really shitty, tuneless bilge. Reminds me of dubstep from a few years ago. Eventually they'll grow tired of it and move on to something else.

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Hey if you are talking about old-style fascists than it is normal, futurism was enjoyed between many circles in Italy for example. D'ANNUNZIO

Just googled Xurious
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Pretty interesting how bad fascists are at making music. There wasn't a single notable NSBM album until like 2003. There will probably never be a good fashwave album.

Sam Hyde and MDE really reminded me of D'Annunzio and the whole futurist thing. I'm kinda slow but when that finally clicked for me two years ago I went "ruh roh, we're going to have a 'moment' for the far right."

metamute.org/editorial/articles/no-joke-untangling-dna-code-alt-right-comedy

The fact that it has descended from that genuinely creative avant-garde stuff into this really shitty retro-80s turbo crap is actually a good thing IMO because this music suuuuucks.

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Yeah the music sucks but it is interesting to think this could be considered D'Annunzio 2.0

Damn bros why is fashy music so shit

I'll never understand the obsession with futurism from these guys. Who would have motivation to do anything when you live in a shit state

One of the central themes of fascism is rebirth. Fascism is always a weird blend between the super-modern future and the pre-modern past, the latter of which is reborn from the ashes of modernity after it blows itself up in the Nazi masturbation fantasy / Atomwaffle thermogeddon / etc.

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You say Atomwafflegets are fascist again and I am going to beat you with a fasces.

You do have the right idea in mind but don't compare the oldbacks with shit like the satanist DPRK loving larpers that attomwaffen are.

atomwaffen are right wing fascists dork

beat me fashy daddy uwu

carpenter brut is unironically great, though

He isn't fashwave tho

I dunno. They may be enormous dumbasses but they have basically taken SIEGE to its logical conclusion, and they got a lot of praise from the usual quarters like the Daily Stormer before Russell went to prison and the ToB occultists took over.

I think Anglin led the denunciation of Atomwaffle because he realized these guys were making the movement look bad due to the murders, not because of some principled opposition to what they stand for – the Satanist thing provided the opportunity. He said that Satanists have "infiltrated" the movement but you could easily throw it back in the opposite direction; that Nazis infiltrated the Satanist scene.

It'd be like saying the AFL-CIO has infiltrated the Democratic Party or something. That's not how movements come together.

(me)
Important point: Anglin couldn't have denounced Atomwaffle simply because of the murders; like the one Atomwaffle slaying of the gay Jewish kid in California. Anglin SUPPORTS murdering people, especially gay Jews. But he knows that's a bad look for the movement so he needed to find a way to distance it from Atomwaffle (despite his previous praise).

The guy leading this thread (attached pic) is one of the higher-ups in Patriot Front and has led security ops at Richard Spencer demos. The idea that Atomwaffle are not "really Nazis" is a P.R. tactic. Inside the movement, they "understand" the group; outwardly they're Satanists "who don't have anything to do with us."

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Bah like I always said, the Nazis are nothing but a burden on the name of fascism that we could never get rid of.

People forget what he did to the fascist leader over in Austria, for some reason he wasn't the best buds with Musso during the Ethiopian War.

Anyways I am talking about fascism but with no ethno-nacionalism.

ive heard people over here say that hes a bit close to it, so i just rolled with it

Antifa are nigger faggots and avoiding that terminology is good praxis.

People here call synthwave in general reactionary as fuck, but I've never seen anything suggesting Carpenter Brut is a fascist.

uwu thanks for having good tastes user

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lmfaoo, these yours?

nah b'y I just found them here and there

All this should should honestly be saved on the booru for future use

I think some of them are

These are fucking great

This one is easily the best pic. Sums up the whole movement in one image.

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glad I could help

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aaand you messed it up with that pic

Send more pictures

rude tbh. sad that karenposting in verboten on leftypol now

I have some more but they're just gay jokes. liberals won't go for them so they have no real use outside chan trolling

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not really, anime sucks

I posted this in the hot takes thread but this might fit here better. Either way, wish this guy’s grandfather got stuck in the DDR tbh

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I’m retarded and drunk. Ignore me. Hope modes will delete.

10/10

On the off chance you or anyone else think he's memeing that's the kind of shit they actually put out in their propaganda.

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why dont we just make stalin fashwave to trigger the alt light?

Stalin was the ultimate fash daddy but they hate him.

Check this out
youtube.com/watch?v=Q4qdhslQ6N4

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Fuck off

more pls

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lmao the habsburg one is on point

ooh that's a good one

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The report them, duh. These should get banned on the spot.

credit goes to the ripper legend user on 4/wg/ that made these just to troll Zig Forumsyps

I've never seen fashwave in the wild anywhere.
And Vaporwave was a 2011 thing.

Pretty sure communist vaporwave already existed.

Like a year or two ago - ie the last time this came up.

Vaporwave was a leftist critique of capitalism long before Zig Forums started liking fuschia.
This is fucking Gulag worthy

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waiting for someone to say it

we should find some soviet era electronic music and fight it with our own OC

Gotcha fam. Eduard Artemyev is what I could think of on top of my head.

Marxist synthwave when? I know nostalgia is reactionary but shit it sounds good

it's just vaporwave. good vaporwave emphasizes the sense of capitalist alienation, the microgenre of course just devolved into an unironic romanticizing of the past, which logically branched off into synthwave.
youtube.com/watch?v=dN0czUMRMU8

wow another thread for virgin shaming? fuck off.

Eh, my observation from the little art history I know is that leftist circles tend to violently react to artistic movements that flashback to a previous time period ,because they do kind of coincide with increased conservatism. Basically like the 80s with Neo Expressionism and the 'return of painting' . If you look into any art history texts it is pretty much heavily implied that everyone hated what the 80s stood for after the revolutionary changes of the 60s and 70s.
I don't know if I blame them for reacting badly to all synthwabe/retrowave/whatever-wave .


This stuff makes sense especially 'Fascism is always a weird blend between the super-modern future and the pre-modern past,,', which to me just explains the obsession with the 80s. Futuristic shit based on a foundation laid in the past. The male hero worship that is stamped into a lot of 80s stuff makes sense, and a lot of the cartoons are seen as 'manly', because anytime they reboot them you hear manbabies crying about it being 'soyboy' .

I know we could talk about media tin the 80s that isn't about male hero worship, but i"m just generalizing .

Also it sucks that they took vaporwave aesthetics, because vaporwave is supposed to be critical of capitalism and the idea of copyright…So having them try to seize it as a marketing tool feels like a bastardization.

The right can't really Art.

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A party governing a nation “totalitarianly" is a new departure in history. There are no points of reference nor of comparison. From beneath the ruins of liberal, socialist, and democratic doctrines, Fascism extracts those elements which are still vital. It preserves what may be described as "the acquired facts" of history; it rejects all else. That is to say, it rejects the idea of a doctrine suited to all times and to all people. Granted that the XIXth century was the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy, this does not mean that the XXth century must also be the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy. Political doctrines pass; nations remain. We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the " right ", a Fascist century. If the XIXth century was the century of the individual (liberalism implies individualism) we are free to believe that this is the "collective" century, and therefore the century of the State. It is quite logical for a new doctrine to make use of the still vital elements of other doctrines. No doctrine was ever born quite new and bright and unheard of. No doctrine can boast absolute originality. It is always connected, it only historically, with those which preceded it and those which will follow it. Thus the scientific socialism of Marx links up to the utopian socialism of the Fouriers, the Owens, the Saint-Simons ; thus the liberalism of the XIXth century traces its origin back to the illuministic movement of the XVIIIth, and the doctrines of democracy to those of the Encyclopaedists. All doctrines aim at directing the activities of men towards a given objective; but these activities in their turn react on the doctrine, modifying and adjusting it to new needs, or outstripping it. A doctrine must therefore be a vital act and not a verbal display. Hence the pragmatic strain in Fascism, it’s will to power, its will to live, its attitude toward violence, and its value.

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Is it really this bad? I mean, I have seen a buddy with a PhD RANTING about "communist future" dude is obviously fried. What are you going to do, cripple the infrastructure, trigger a reset?

How is your viewpoint of attacking another viewpoint's believers not inherantly "facsist" in its own? And since when do liberals joke about worshipping the fucking communistic super-Nazis? Oh vey, remember the 100 million? Anything?

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Wow imagine that. Communists have a higher level of education than right wingers.
More like invest in infrastructure.
Reset control of society and give it back to the working man.
Do you really think attacking someone's political ideas == fascism? We hate you because you sow social division, thereby ironically playing into the hands of the zionist aristocracy you hate so much.

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From what I'm seeing here, it seems that you guys mix vaporwave and synthwave. These two genre have nothing in common.
Vaporwave (which I don't care about) relies heavily on sampling and recycling old songs, it is mostly made by amateurs (although some reknowned musician like OPN did it too) and is very ironic and meta by essence.
Synthwave on the other hand is basically EDM/French House mixed with 80s synth music (actually most current music is also synth based, but at that time the approach of the instrument was a lot less sophisticated) and movie soundtrack (from Giallos to John Carpenter, Vangelis). There's virtually no sampling evolved (in the sense of taking a chunk of a song and reusing it) and it's made by using vintage gear or their emulations and modern electronic music techniques.
That style of music drew a lot of attention after the release of Drive and Hotline Miami and the scene probably got bigger because of the leap in quality and accessibility of tools for computer music, but it was already there for a long time (at least since the early 2000's). Hell, what is Boards of Canada if it's not cheesy synth soundtrack worship?
I know that the fascination for the 80s and its tackiness can make you think it's a reactionnary scene and that these people might also be OK with the conservative revolution that took place in the 80s, but I genuinely think it's not the case.
In a nutshell, Synthwave is having a good laugh at the boomers and appreciation of synthetizers (which are awesome and ten times cooler than electric guitars).

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Fake and gay

these are dope

I love me some synth. But come on synth+ guitar+piano +if you can squeeze in something unexpected like flute or opera= the best. That's my main issue. I think a lot of the people in it are just …don't care, just mindlessly regurgitating the aesthetic and sound without actually trying to move forwards with it (not all, not all, I'm talking about bandwagon-ners_) Maybe the idea of musical progress is overrated, but to kind of just indulge in that idea is weird to me.