Why can burgers never read (also why are they politically inept)?

Why can burgers never read (also why are they politically inept)?
Outside of Socialist burgers, every single burger i’ve met refuses to read.
I recently debated with a burger on the concept of social democracy after the Blah Blah Blah “BERNIE SANDERS IS A FUCKING COMMIE!” Shot came for the 74 millionth time. I give a The burger a wiki link, he saids “nud an argument” so I give him a pdf and he refuses to read it, insisting that the Nordic countries aren’t social democracies AND that every country besides the US is commies or some shit.
Why are burgers so ignorant?
For the PDF I shared with him (I told him to literally look up what a social democracy is from the book): retawprojects.com/uploads/politics-ideologies.pdf

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color me surprised

Most of us are so brainwashed from the cold war that we refuse to acknowledge the successes of socialist states. The typical "leftist" here in the US doesn't even realize that the parties are identical. Americans also have a fear of change which inhibits revolutionary thought and makes the most leftist people here succdems.

You answered your own question there mate. Anyway, as for the reason so many Americans don't want to read, it is because they aren't taught to think critically about politics (or anything else really). Think about what you see on the news. It's nothing but easily digestible soundbites and talking points, which exist to provide a simplistic and comforting narrative to people. If you fill people's heads with this garbage everyday, of course they will develop a simplistic view of politics and will refuse to consider anything other than what they saw on the news recently.

Update: the burger says he refuses to read this on the grounds that “it turned me into what it is today”
So can someone give me a fucking book by a l*beral since this retard refuses to read this book because I read it myself.

this guy needs to be literally euthanized for his own good

This x1000

why are you making this exception lol

"socialist" burgers are libs at best

50 years of the Feds purging leftists. Talk about Marx and you lose your job, you end up on a black list and can't get a new job, and if you organize your community to make a living outside of wage labor while building working class power, the police call you a terrorist and assassinate you.

Burgers over about age 30 don't read socialist material or accept socialist concepts because it's a self defense mechanism. A collective, subconscious understanding that ==there be dragons==.

To tens of millions of Burgers who are still of the mindset that class consciousness is like a black hole. You can't know where the point of no return is, but once you reach it you will suffer and die and there's nothing you can do about it. So they wall up and refuse to even entertain the idea.

Is he a petite bourgeois? Those tend to always be ignorant of life in pretty much every aspect, and the US has tons of them.

I asked him and he says yes. He smuggly said “i’m a business owner” (although prior to that he said fuck unions, so I shouldn’t be surprised)

dis is brice of breedom X-DDD
dog bles

Point him to the exact page instead of giving an entire pdf

krugman/stiglitz wrote normie books I think
I think the best way is to give him a econ101 textbook, he will be a social democrat in no time, when he learns about monopolies and negative externalities and information assymetry
also show him US healthcare costs vs other countries, hell HAVE to admit stuff

Fuckin' trips of truth right there, I tell ya hwat

In Burger school you are forced to try, try. and try your ass off. They will use moral, cultural, punitive, etc… tactics to "motivate" you. They will instill complexes, obsessions, and anything else to mold you.
It's horrible, and doesn't promote reading. I can't help but imagine that it moves people away from reading. You read shitty things and do shitty things. I honestly believe that people might have micro-PTSD when it comes to reading.
These are my thoughts. Burger education (probably all education) is horrendous.

Circumcision + HFCS in their diet makes them half retarded

Americans basically live in a reality bubble, as far as global politics are concerned. There is a very strong anti-intellectual mentality caused by a culture of narcissism and fear, and mass media is carefully designed to shape how people think based on the information they are fed.

The main reason for this is because the anticommunist movement in the US has always been significantly influenced by Protestant fundamentalism, and these people believe that the noble lie is not only acceptable, but desirable.

ok moldbug

NRx is just jelly of religion because they want to be the ubermensch telling the sheep what to think.

fox, cnn, and MSNBC is all "jewish propaganda" according to them.

Because they don't have a strong literary tradition

Reading was largely removed from education in favor of "european style" standardized testing. This began in the mid 90s but was formalized into law in 2002 via the No Child Left Behind Act. Obama went ahead and standardized all education in 2013 through the Common Core. As a result, most political discussion is directed by TV who sees everyone besides America as hardcore socialist for things like free healthcare and college.

Neil Postman had a lot to say on this in his books "Amusing Ourselves To Death" and "The End Of Education". It is also lampooned in Ray Bradbury's seminal work Farenheight 451.

No, America does. However the only people who read books are people outside the mainstream who have little influence on real life, because real life doesn't require reading anything beyond a pamphlet. College students read but only if they take classes that do not have standardized exams.

What the fuck would you read when this is the shlock pushed down your throat by capitalism?

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Related to this problem is that people aren't buying books from physical stores anymore. Borders is already gone, Barnes&Noble is the only one left and most of their money comes from renting textbooks not selling books, most of which are teen/YA flotsam like you posted. There's just no place to get quality books unless you walk into a specialty store, whose stock is mostly going to be used books not new prints. People can easily self-publish online and do direct sales but the most popular books tend to be Zig Forums tier stuff.

Then why he would need socialism, etc?. He lives on a higher standard than socialism or any leftist ideology could give him, he wont make himself worse, its a natural reaction. And he will attack and discredit it, naturally.

Bad excuse, there are works of art made by writers living in worse economical situations than late capitlaism……

B&N is also very good at catering with their stock to whatever audience is within the region of any of their particular stores. I can walk into my local one and find a fair selection of books on a nice variety of topics. If I head a few miles west though into a more rural area their in-store stock changes dramatically. The selection of books is MUCH smaller because they felt they had to make room for a larger section devoted to films and pop culture junk like t-shirts and funko pop figures. As far as the book they actually do have, it's embarrassing. An entire aisle devoted to Christian literature, another to Bibles, shelves upon shelves of self-help books. No section devoted to philosophy, just a "current events" section filled with the usual assortment of pop-pundit garbage.

Late capitalism is soul-crushing though, even if the economic conditions are above historical norms.

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I'm lucky to live in a college town with an actually good, curated used book store housed in an Old Western opera house. Posting a pic of just one of the rooms which contains the art, sci-fi, fantasy and vinyl records. There's a third floor in the back that's all literature. The basement is history, social sciences, politics and economics and so on (I bought a copy of Stalin's "On the Opposition" down there). They have books on Austro-Marxism and shit like that – and this is in Texas. Main ground floor room is pop fiction (think mysteries, spy novels, horror), religion (actually a pretty good section with serious theology), science and so on. Spotted an IWW sticker behind the register once and a cool trans chick curates the sci-fi and will help you out if you're looking for something to read. Would recommend.

I like sci-fi junk novels but that's just me. There's a Barnes and Noble in this town as well but it's just sad, and the people there are clearly overworked because of corporate "cost-cutting." The used bookstore gives out bumper stickers for free and a lot of people in town have them on their cars. I think people will support used bookstores but they require the support of the community.


One reason I think we're inept is that the country is just too fucking big. America is not even really a country but a stitched-together empire. One of the weird things about living now is that while it seems (emphasis on seems) that Trump is the devil and the government is on fire, the actual everyday lived reality hasn't changed a smidgen. The country is a giant battleship with an 18th century governing framework and it turns extremely slowly. Who is actually manning the bridge doesn't matter that greatly. If there is a crisis in America it's a really long, drawn out post-Cold War identity crisis where, for the first time, the country is in something of a "relative decline" which wasn't the case for most of its existence.

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Proof.

They also had a memoir from a Chinese Red Army general who fought in the civil war but I can't remember which one, and it was rare and I couldn't find it last time. Someone snatched it before I could – which leads me to believe there's some local Maoist competition in town. Show yourself coward.

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There allot of hipsters walking around?

Kinda? We have a little bit of everything here, like an ideological and demographic / ethnic hodgepodge.

In terms of voting, the town itself is solidly Democrat but the county and all the smaller towns around it are solidly Republican, and the state/federal congressional seats here are considered "safe R," and you have to drive into town to do/get anything. I've seen lots of Bernie stickers (on compact cars driven by hipster girls), Trump stickers on beat-up old pickups and SUVs, a hideous yellow Ford Mustang driven by a dude with a Hillary (!) sticker on the back… and practically half the pickup trucks on the road … which is a lot … have NRA and Gadsden flag stickers (meaning right-wing as fuck). I even saw an ancient lady with giant hair driving an Oldsmobile with a Dump Trump sticker.

I used to live in a solid Democrat city and I prefer this more. Texans also tend to have a lot of arrogant pride in whatever they're doing. Whatever you are, left, right, straight, gay, redneck, gay redneck, giant dumbass, race/religion/etc. then they are decidedly un-self-conscious about it.

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Americans are literally the embodiment of the Nietzschean Last Man

holy shit that's so neat
I wish we had something like that around here, all we have at our bookstores is funko pops and harry potter

If you haven't experienced the American education system first hand you have no idea how absolutely poisonous to learning it is.

Hmn. I thought it encouraged not trying by rewarding mediocre performance. There is also this weird 'one size fits all' approach to education that just doesn't work. Trying to mass manufacture education just isn't a good idea.

I think there is this emphasis on just accepting what is written as facts , and you pretty much just look in the book to find the answers, and write it down. No reason to be critical of the way they frame the facts in the textbook, no! (especially in history).They just do a bad job of teaching people critical thinking. They also make learning feel like a chore ,not fun, and purposely don't relate it to real life so it feels pointless and separated


. The majority of America doesn't think that. They do think the media is biased though, but they aren't wrong.

I think reading is important, sure espeically when you are younger, but I also think that you can teach people critical thinking through film too, like asking questions about how the scene is structured . I just wonder if having a media analysis course sort of for younger people would not be a bad idea.

Ah, Texas. The state that was once its own country and won't let you forget it. Seriously I had to take TX history in 7th grade, moved to South Carolina in 8th grade and had to take SC history. I got fucked over. They teach you state-specific history. I don't even think they do that in every state.

There's no such thing as an american socialist OP. Don't trust any american, they're the enemy and will always be and there will never be peace while that "nation" is allowed to exist, while it's people ae allowed to breathe.

Do you mean to tell me that Stephen F(ucking) Austin wasn't an invaluable part of your education?

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burgers don't go to the dentist

nigga thinks you a witch

They did state-specific history in virginia, but to be fair it was basically just colonial history with some noble savage shit thrown in about the injuns.

I bet they talked about Bacon's Rebellion (petty bourg uprising) pretty extensively, but they barely mentioned Gabriel's Rebellion if they talked about it at all. Because that one was black slaves and poor whites uniting to rebel. That one is still dangerous to the existing power structure.

Pennsylvania checking in. Our fucking state has two history courses on the state alone. If you live East of Appalachia you learn extnensively about the Philadelphia and the colonial era, fucking live West of Appalachia and learn about Pittsburgh like it’s the fucking heavens and we a brief mention of the IWW and how they didn’t suck the dick of the almighty Rockefeller. The only common thing between the two is the William Penn circlejerk.

nah, I read, its just within the first few chapters I pretty much get more than the gist of what they're talking about, and I read at lightning speed.

also I think "burger" is just another dog whistle much like "da joos" for pol.

pretty sure that's Britbongs but ok

depends on whom you talk to. there's always loners/outliers like me who don't fit in with where everyone else is going I go the opposite

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We spent way too fucking long on the Alamo. My god. It was a noble noble sacrifice god darng it!


Yeah pretty sure that this state history is there to try and smooth over some of the confederacy stuff, too. You know 'well slavery was a big part of it, but it wasn't the only factor' kind of thing.


I' was actually kinda surprised to learn that PA has a bunch of mountain people in it, right? It's funny how SC is split into the mountain people and then the fancy coastals in Charleston

Americans have scary inhuman looking teeth though. Maybe i'm just a poor shit trying to make myself feel better ,but I like that the British go more natural with it.

Going off this, I was educated in California and we never had any state history that I can remember. Lot of basic world history, in depth ww2 stuff and post-ww2 current events stuff. We had a very competent tech classes, they dropped cursive in favor of extra computer lab classes in grade school.

Wtf, I'd be surprised to find books even by Marx in any bookshop that isn't either leftist or specialized in economics/philosophy.

My guess is that it's Suburbia. We had a burgeoning labor movement in the pre-war period. But the post-war boom really fucked all that up. Suburbia, the idea of being the lord of one's own castle, played right into the American fantasy of pure individualism, that hard work and motivation can overcome any obstacle. Of course, as with any form of Idealism, it comes crashing at the rocks of material conditions and the fact is that Suburbia was never sustainable, never even a good idea temporarily. Suburban blight is the reason shittons of American cities are so unlivable and the reason we don't have even basic public goods like affordable public transportation.
I think this had a knock-on effect. For a generation that castle was achievable, however petty. And has soured our idea of public good in general, take for example the long time aversion to public healthcare until very recently. Even though we're seeing a leftist movement among millennials a concerning amount of the grievances aired are just about trying to re-establish the boomer dream.
Any critique of the horrible way in which American life is laid out is going to be rejected as European, Communist, fundamentally non-American. They genuinely believe that most of the western world set out on a dark path. If you think about the brainlets who insist on an individualist vs collectivist dichotomy, it's literally that. Hence the refusal to read.
Lefties in New York, San Francisco, Seattle, etc. People who aren't scared of books and reject the false promises of Suburbia have always been an aberration in American political thought.

I went to a really good school system in California, one of the richest in the state, and I have to echo that. The history of the state itself is mostly a mystery to me. It was only covered briefly during our section on the settlement of the west in general.

Absolute shit. Tons of unapologetic marxists have jobs. Show me and example of someone getting fired for being a communist within the last 5 years. I can show you dozens of examples of people being fired for being right wing. If you oppose gay marriage, or interracial marriage your life is over.

What? Are neat white teeth scary?

Not that this is the same thing, it isn't. But you can absolutely lose your job for trying to unionize at your company. Most employers will let you claim to be a marxist so long as you never make it material.

Oh, we live in the same state.

I agree with him. Theres just something creepy or fake about perfectly straight teeth. Like seeing fat slobs bouncing around with a perfect smile is weird. Plus the difference between american and english teeth boil down to cultural differences.

Americans are obsessed with straightening and aligning their teeth perfectly with braces, while brits sort of let their teeth grow out naturally. Its not that they dont take care of their teeth its just that they dont care about straightening them.

Also the other pics i posted are just examples of how body modifaction techniques differ between human cultures. Because teeth straightening counts as a body mod ritual.

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Yeah, Boogie2988 doesn't look any better for being a fat disgusting manipulative slob with jigsaw teeth. I remember a biblical movie about Jacob, and I was immediately taken out it when in the first Seen, Bronze age goat-shepherd Farmhand jacob has an immaculate white smile.

That being said, for those of us who didn't grow up chewing leather, it's possible to have nearly perfect teeth without braces. I never had them, and my teeth are completely straight aside from one barely noticable overlap in my bottom teeth. For women, I think it's more important to have straight teeth, because women need to make their mouths look as welcoming and fuckable as possible.

Thank you, Evolite Zig Forumsfag.
As always, your take is appreciated.

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not him, but white teeth are unnatural too. Teeth are naturally yellowish white. Not chain smoker yellow by any means, but sure as hell not snow white. Its only a little less weird than blackening them since they are white-ish normally.

1945 to 1995 is 50 years, dumbass. That's why people OVER 30 have that reaction, but young people don't.

Learn to fucking read.

Because Burgers are a third of this board.

Burger high schooler here, our education system is shit. Our history calsses are god awful. The entire class revolves around the final exam made by beurcrats in the state capital. This year I took “Global History” we learned a bit about the French revolution, then we spent time on Colonialism, but it was never in death we just learned “whites are guilty”and that’s it. Neoclonalist exploitation was never mentioned WW1, the European Interwar period and WW2 was glossed over. Then we had a unit on Marxism and the Cold War which was just basically straight up propaganda. The Arab-Israli wars were never mentioned. There was a brief unit on Vietnam. The teacher was very ideologically biased, her ideology being a mixture of free market fundamentalism mixed with radlib social issues. This of course caused students to challenger her on radlibism, and feminism, but not on economics. Basically Burger schooling is terrible.

pure ideology

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remember, this is what federalism looks like.

I died as soon as I read "forages".

Its the bad food. The food is putting chemicals in their brains.

Yeah we have history teachers who only really like/ want to teach abut one thing so you get stuck on the American Revolution for almost the entire year, and everything else is just crapped out.

Is this the general place to rant about the burgers. Well good. I just come from a mind-numbing conversation with some gringo boomers. It´s like their fucking brain is a black-hole of basic world history. Anything from Vietnam, to the Cold War, to Syria, whatever, is just a fucking smudge in their TV addled brains. B-but America is a shining city on a hill!
Stick it ya dumbfuck!

A burger I met couldn’t get the idea that I wasn’t a Dane and I was lying about being an Inuit.

why do you need fucking book stores when you have verso books that sells books almost for free online

after that comes zero books

jesus christ, kill the bookstores already

Fuck you, bookstores are the only stores that are really cool to spend a long time walking around and checking out books

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I agree that it is fun spending time there. But for obtaining literature, just order online.

If your an english speaker at least you have tons of literature in your language, I had to learn English to be able to access most of radical thought (at least we have all of Marx translated here yeah)

try to make it more subtle if you're gonna bait faggot

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ur mom gay lol

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Just out of curiousity, what town are you talking about? I find Texas kind of interesting

This, I mean fuck you nigga I ain't reading a 300 page long pdf just to argue with a fag over the internet. At least, tell me which chapter to look at, or post pictures of the relevant pages.