If it's OK for a comunity to harm those it deems violent, like say how Antifa acts around those it deems violent. Would it not be ok for a conservative comunity to do the same against communists?
Or is this a case where whenever someone who isn't a commie is doing this, they're just being a reactionary, unlike you the most rational folks.
Questions for REAL socialists
Sebastian Garcia
James Foster
wow, you really got us there now!
because we totally expect our enemies not to suppress us and would never do so ourself!
and of course you're not being hypocritical at all!
wow, lefties totally btfo X-D
honestly, if you thought that was clever or anything you should consider killing yourself, you are an embarrassment even to your own kind
Kayden Thompson
You can try, burger
Bentley Morris
hahahahahahahaHAHAHAHHAAHHA
Liam James
It's irrelevant if it's "ok". If you could, you would.
Adrian Brown
Commies aren't violent, so no.
David Hill
get to it, nothing of value will be lost smartass
James Lewis
Communists are only doing it to stop the nazis from doing it.
Nazis always cause genocides and therefore they must be stopped before they can mobilise. It's wrong for nazis to do it by reacting to commies.
Hudson Wright
Gonna spell this out:
Violence for reactionary causes is not ok
Violence for the socialist cause is ok
The argument isn't about violence itself but the target and goals. Faggot.
Michael King
Violence is a tool to be used you moralising liberal faggot.
Andrew Anderson
Do you honestly think this is some kind of question over ethics? Are you mentally disabled? of course you are youre a rightard
Bentley Wright
How am I being hypocritical? I'm a left wing liberalist who believes everyone, including you should have freedom of speech.
Mate we're talking principles here, and I have yet to heard a commie say they are willing to peacefully coexist with nazis.
Are you a retard or something? Or have you not heard of ☭TANKIE☭s? No wait, let me guess, they're not true communists.
Mate, you say nazis always cause genocide, when clearly haven't caused any for almost 100 years.
I literally talk to nazis who say the exact same thing about you. You guys always kill off anyone who disagrees with you when you get into power, a genocide based off of ideas one holds.
John Anderson
mate
Adrian Clark
Mate this is about principles. To me, you're a reactionary group sprung from the disenfranchment we had for companies back when we didn't have worker's rights.
>They're reactionary because I said so, unlike myself
Yes it is, it's about freedom of speech. You guys say you support it, but will commit violence to those who say something you don't want to hear.
BTW I'm a left wing liberalist.
Julian Collins
Us and every political interest group ever.
Carson Garcia
Dominic Morris
Principles do not protect me from being shot by fascists. Killing fascists does.
Nathaniel Garcia
Yes because I aways see republicans kill off democrats. Duh, how can I be so stupid. It's not like they are mature political parties that know violence isn't the answer to taking out an political enemy. After all, we all remember how gandhi took back india, through violence and harming those who spoke out against his just plan.
That's why we have laws based on principles.
Cameron Thomas
But they weren't violent in the first place, they reacted against oppression and imperialist aggression.
Matthew Sanders
Laws are enforced by people that want us gone. Dead sometimes, even. They are also not enforced on the people who make those laws.
Honestly people thinking that laws are based on principles are the most idealist in the world. They are based on the interests of the rulers.
MURICA
Through being a collaborator with the british while the british grip on the indian subcontinent was weakinging due to violent insurgency, political assassination and armed opposition by the native population.
Luke Walker
Welcome to literally the last 10,000 years of politics.
Nolan Miller
Not to be that guy I don't even like "antifa" because I feel it's too broad and allows for far too much class collaboration, but politics is inherently violent, whether that violence be obscured or obvious. This is especially true for liberalism and liberal democracy, where you vote for representatives who will enact certain legislation which will be enforced by the power of the state. Those who disagree with that legislation simply can't decide not to follow it and continue living as they did, they must abide by it or face penalty. That's just the reality of power and politics.
Carson Campbell
The US government currently has a global assassination program in which the sitting president must personally authorize the execution of targets including American citizens. The FBI has been involved in the murder of domestic political dissidents. The CIA has orchestrated coups, torture programs, and sectarian conflict on every continent on this planet. To think the US isn't knee deep in politically motivated violence is the height of naivety.
Gandhi wasn't the only factor in Indian independence. You're conveniently ignoring the radical nationalist and socialist factions who waged an insurrection against British occupation.
Andrew Sullivan
Persons A, B, and C are playing a board game; A is blatantly cheating and winning against the other 2, whenever A cheats, B points it out and repeats phrases such as "hey look A is cheating!", "A, stop cheating!", "A, you're not following the rules of the game!" Despite B's protests, B doesn't do anything other than point out A's cheating. After awhile, C realizes that he will never win as long as A is cheating, but since he cannot stop A from cheating, C decides to cheat as well. Whenever C cheats, B says things like "You're no better than C by cheating!", "C, you're not following the rules of the game!", "C, stop cheating!" Person A is also protesting against C's cheating, but A continues to cheat even so. C doesn't bother complaining about A's cheating and continues to cheat, eventually C wins the game and A ragequits, leaving B & C alone. B & C both start a new game, but this time C doesn't cheat.
Person A is a reactionary, Person B is a liberal, and Person C is a socialist. Understand now?
Elijah Reed
Wow what a stupid anime girl. You might even say she's the worst possible girl.
see pic
Sebastian James
Bringing morality into this is essentially futile, despite the impression some might give you, Marxism is a materialistic ideology, it describes what is, thereby it has no power to proclaim what ought to be.
Personally, I have no sentiment in the matter, I personally judge fascists to be bad, thereby I would advocate suppressing them, I obviously feel communists are good, I do not advocate suppressing them. If you feel differently then tell us why and we can discuss, that's how a community would end up doing it anyway, regardless of which option is "right".