Leftism by country

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Try to read some De-Leon
Participation in elections can be valuable even if it is basically just a protest campaign done only to spread the communist message and attract members to the communist party

Yea pretty much. "Left" has become synonymous with idpol to most people here.

Read "Left-Wing" Communism: An Infantile Disorder.

wtf

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Why dont YOU start a socialist/Communist Org then GreenCom?
You would have literally ZERO electoral competition for the socialist vote!

holy shit, it isn't?
also
i hope you're a member user

Citation needed
that would be fucking hilarious

I might start a Posadist party just because my country would actually survive the apocalypse

Are you a neet isnt like 2 oclock in Greenland
and btw whats up with this names are there so many inuits in your country

No its waaaaaasy worse they also support privatization and inviting WESTERN companies in greece

In greek if you want
pcr-posadista.blogspot.com/search/label/Ελλάδα
the firs post

This, it's Greenland for fuck's sake, how hard can this be?

How do we fix this?

We really cant
Its "Youth wing" is non-existent (Another Australian user on here told a story about how when he was thinking about joining he found out the entire Queensland youth wing had THREE members)
And most of its members are Boomers stuck in a 70s-80s time warp

What's our real option then? Starting our own orgs?

Well if you dont mind being sorrounded by Trots then there is always AUS-SALT
Then of course as i have mentioned Socialist Alternative is basically just a DemSoc / SocDem org but as far as i know it dosent ban people of other tendencies from joining

But that being said both are meme tier anyhow
So yeah a new socialist/Communist party with good Praxis forr the 21st century will have to arise in AUS

Prepare thine ani lads, welcome to the UK's leftwing scene:
Simultaneously neolibs, socdems, demsocs, trots, tanks, eurocomms, and neomarxian left:

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Any ideas on where to start?

The best Hope would likely be something ive already stated in the Gough Whitlam thread
The Remaining SocDems in the Labor party should either attempt a party room coup to get an Australian Corbyn at the helm
Or to simply split outright put an Australian corbyn to head a third party campaign and unite with the smaller Soc-Dem / DemSoc cliques and court the Trots

"Labour"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(Norway)
Was pretty nice back in WW1 where they were in Comintern and almost led a revolution, but a split in the 1920's led the Reformist Faction to win the party election and they are basically losing more and more popularity for each election. Today they are basically neoliberals with social democratic rhetoric, but they have promised to move more to the "left".
Norwegian Socialist Party (translated literally it is Socialist Left Party)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Left_Party_(Norway)
They claim to be socialist, but they are IDpol and SocDem. They used to be pretty bad as they moved more and more to the right, but the new leadership is actually moving more to the left and getting back to the SocDem roots, they are now more reluctant to join a coalition with Labour. However, the party is getting more and more split with the Right and Left Wing of the Party.
Red (yes that is their name)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Party_(Norway)
A huge "coalition" of many socialists and communists, they used to be Maoist, but today they are more open for many tendencies. They have some IDpol issues and they are becoming slightly more SocDem, but they are breaking the illusion that "Labour" is left and The Conservative Party is right and actually making Socialism more relevant in the political space. So I would be carefully optimist.

Serve The People:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serve_the_People_(Norway)
LARP with 20-year old Neets

Norwegian Communist Party
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Norway
LARP with 80-year-olds. They have a nice flag though.

The wewest of lads.

Anyway
AUSTRALIA

Socialist Alliance
socialist-alliance.org/
-Multi-tendency, but mostly lib-socs- consists of Libertarian Marxists, A few anarchists, supports R0java, believes in a form of democratic socialism, but also revolutionary. Organisation is limited, but mostly support elections to create minor reform to get the ball rolling and thus make it easier for revolution.

Solidarity
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_(Australia)
Party mostly consists of trots, but unlike most Trots, they aren't as secretarian. You meet various tendencies. Currently focused on student movements, refugee action, protests, and general strikes.

Socialist Alternative
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Alternative_(Australia)
Utterly shit-tier. Do not bother with these people. They're reformist, opportunist, petty, secretarian and hijack protests and speeches. Most leftist orgs hold them in contempt.

Jura Books- Anarchist group located in Sydney, Melbourne Anarchists- Name itself is self-explanatory mostly consist of a few bookstores. Melbourne anarchists have a huge stance, though the sydney anarchists are a lot more recluse.

jura.org.au/about

mac.anarchobase.com/

I'm aware that anti-fa has a strong presence in Sydney and Melbourne.
slackbastard.anarchobase.com/

WOW THIS COULD NEVER END BADLY!

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Honestly, not as bad as I thought they'd be. They're one of the few Trotskyist orgs that don't like Trotsky.

I wasnt mocking the fact that its name is Ironic for a Trot group (Cuz muh splits or whatever)
I was joking about the fact that the CIA and Vatican backed """""Socialist""""" Group which restored capitalism in Poland were Trots

u retarded?

Dont forget Pro Islamist/Chechen Separatism

So some more things about greek leftism

OLDFAGS
Greece is runed by old people. The majority of voters are over the age of 45 so many partis pander to them. Many people back in the day were poor communist farmers that joined the ressistance against the nazis , fought in th civil war with the democratic and suffer in exils .
The ones that survived still vote communist with most of the children .Thats how we see rich businessman supportin the kke

ANARCHISTS
A large part of greek youth is pretty progressive some of them are anarchist .
The media and most of the oldfags hate them
They waste there time smashing stuff and nazi
parties with only two 50 year olds as members
but they also help the community and fight pigs

POLITICAL COMPASS
For left wingers:
Right wing when you accept the posibility of cooperating with socdems
Center when you hate evryone and evryone hates you
Left when you dont condem anarchist causes

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I work for the government delivering supplies to villages that aren’t close to the helipad. It’s technically a part time job since I don’t deliver every day.
HMMMMMMMMMM
indexmundi.com/greenland/demographics_profile.html

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Because you need at least 100 people to pledge their support for your party to be legal (unless you’re a split off party or a politician). And I highly doubt my entire village would pledge their support for it.

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You could begin by getting immediate family and friends involved in supporting you
Once you gotten your friends and family on board get them to get pledges from two people each and so on

I genuinely think you would be good at it lad
Your like one of the best posters on here

well i thought they killed most of the locals like evrywere else in america

Try reading some Marx. Proletarians need to see their class interests reflected in the bourgeois political process even if it isn't exactly what will establish socialism

This?

Good luck with that. Also, in what way are you a communist again?

Like tendencies or something? Your question is vague.

Nah, I just remember you (a namefag) shilling for that separatist party. I just wonder how you could call yourself a communist when you don't practice what you supposedly believe.

>I just wonder how you could call yourself a communist when you don't practice<

I can give a more thorough rundown on American parties than

Yah, cuz communists are known for shilling for bourgeois parties, like Marx ordered us, jej

No, the reproduction of the conditions of society in Greenland is done by martians.

I don’t recall shilling for the separatist party, I just said they’re pretty new. I like the idea of independence though, but that platform is used by literally every party except a few.

is that about this reply ( ), because I put in the question mark for a reason. I don’t know the stance, but it sounds kinda neat, kinda.

Why is child abuse so common in Greenland? Pic very related.

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Extreme isolation and social views are a bit lagging (due to the isolation). Alcoholism also has a small part, since the isolation makes people an angry drunk instead of another type of drunk. A village in the Himalayas would probably have the same issues.

post inuit girls

This isn’t /leftytrash/

hey this is my thread ,were are you from?

your thread? sorry this is a collective board.

Which of these is the least shitty. I'm not a burger but I've listened to interviews with Gloria La Riva and other PSL people, and I follow them on social media. They seem alright imo. I think it's nice that they don't do too much of the Soviet aesthetic LARP thing, like having hammers and sickles and Marx/Lenin/Stalin portraits in their logos and documents, having a Comintern style name (Communist Party of X), use too many Marxist buzzwords devoid of content in their articles etc. I don't know what kinds of work they do but on the surface they seem better than all the Senior Citizen's Stalin Nostalgia LARP Clubs that exist in Europe.

why …are you so rude…..

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nnngh

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Keeping in mind that I'm an ML and that I've never actually been a member of these groups:
PSL and WWP both seem pretty good for MLs; my only two concerns are that they won't tell anyone why they split even though they seem to be exactly the same, and that they have some eceleb members who are at best opportunists and at worst wreckers. FRSO seems ideologically good too but I think they're a lot smaller and I get the impression that their members are mostly older members from the 70s. The IWW is probably your best bet if you're an anarchist (though it might depend on your local branch). If you're a Maoist then try to find one of the non-RGA aligned ones. DON'T join the RCP (which I forgot to mention in my original post), they're a cult of personality around their leader, Bob Avakian. I can't in good faith recommend any trots or socdems because of how I feel about those tendencies.

There is no decent leftist party in Burgerville. They are all intersectionalist and/or Trotskyist.

I will give SEP a bit of credit however. At least they aren't drunk on idpol.

I see you guys have also posted sucdems so

PASOK
Back in the good all days on of the two main parties.In the begining they were cool (google
Andreas Papandreou he supported palestin and Gadafi)but now they have fall in popularity ,they are the ones that get in to eu.

they are the ones that got us in to the eu

SIRIZA
They had some honest leftist but most of them are now gone ,only corruption remains

Is this really that honeypot-esque though? As long as they aren't telling or encouraging their members to roll up and open fire on police or something.
I ask because I don't think there's anything wrong with open carrying at a protest, and if there is a good reason not to, I'd like to know why.

Well I don't object to carrying firearms in general, but unless you seriously think your protest is at risk of serious state violence (which is reasonable if you're the Black Panthers but much less likely if you're a college kid in Austin) carrying firearms will only make things worse. Also, I've heard (though I can't confirm this) that they allowed the police to disarm them at one protest. Honestly the gun thing alone isn't a big deal, it just seems very questionable when combined with everything else.
Also, I probably didn't state this clearly enough before: every other left-wing group criticizes RGA in a way that they don't otherwise criticize each other. This criticism comes from other Maoists:
medium.com/@BlackRedGuard/why-do-people-continue-to-take-the-us-red-guards-seriously-do-you-even-know-who-these-people-are-ab0040539030
massproletariat.info/writings/2017-12-26-rga-not-mlm.html
massproletariat.info/writings/2018-02-20-once_again_rga.html
and from other tendencies:
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Maoists are of course notoriously polemical, but you won't find the PSL using that kind of criticism against other left-wing groups, even ones like the Democrat Cops of America which many would argue is, in theory, much much further from the PSL ideologically.

So they are just m-l anrchidies with more guns(classic americans)

That's fair, I suppose.
That is actually pretty honeypot-esque if true, allowing their members to get disarmed is never a good sign.
After even just skimming through those links, it sounds like they're definitely a honeypot. Or a particularly stupid cult.

Good Idea, Comrade!

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wrong.

Ich kann dich gut leiden

huh you should be the one who should read lenin. He writes about ultra leftist in Germany and how participating in Bourgeois elections is important for agitation and spreading class consciousness

Ow fuck this sounds bad :/ You should build the Vanguard

Wtf are you talking about? They have their own union and organize many protests. I don'T see anything negative about them.

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Yeah RGA always seemed sketchy and LARPy so thanks for the reading material but I would like a further explanation of the PSL and what is Marcyism?

Danke,Genosse!

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SAV also practices entryism in DIELINKE

i'm glad people are becoming aware of the greatness that is oakke
death to russia

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Did most of them head off with the group Varoufakis started?

Ukraine is worse

Ok here's the history of the PSL. First of all there's an American trot party called the Socialist Workers Party. They're pretty vanilla trots, with the notable exception that they really like Cuba (but they don't like other ML states; I don't know what they think separates Cuba from the others). Anyway, back in 1956 when the Hungarian rebellion was suppressed by the USSR and other socialist states, the SWP (like most trots) supported the rebels. However, there was an SWP member named Sam Marcy who believed the USSR was in the right and that the Hungarian rebellion was fascist. He led a section of the party to split. These people became the Workers World Party. The WWP upheld a Trotskyist line, but they believed all Marxist-Leninist states should nevertheless be defended against the western bloc.
Now, Marcy died in 1998. At some point (I don't know when; like I said in my earlier posts they seem hesitant to make this kind of information public) they became real Marxist-Leninists instead of just woke Trotskyists. In 2004, the San Francisco branch of WWP, led by Gloria La Riva, split from the WWP and established the PSL. The reasons for this split have never been made public, even to most members of the parties. The two theories I've seen are that the PSL wanted to focus more of their time on electoralism or that there was a dispute over who should lead the WWP, but there isn't conclusive evidence for either. In practice I see nearly no difference between the two parties, except that PSL runs candidates for election. I think (based on the number of people on twitter with PSL in their bio) that the PSL is larger, but I don't really know how big either group is; at least a few hundred people each, though.
As for "Marcyism" (which is basically just Trotskyism with anti-imperialist characteristics), I don't think either the PSL or the WWP adheres to it today. They're pretty basic Marxist-Leninists.

They have guns because guns are part of Burger culture. They don’t have them due to fear of police.

Owning and carrying guns is part of burger culture. Open carrying guns at a protest is definitely not part of burger culture.

There getting bigger by the day

The core problem was that it became the George Galloway appreciation society and that he started associating with religious nut-jobs (as you described) really. The lessons of Respect's demise were not learned by the likes of UKIP, who've ended up collapsing for similar reasons.

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Tampa leftcoms are good bois.

PVDA (Flemish) / PTB (Walloon). It's a fairly decent leftist party and the only one in Belgium represented on a federal level. Hardly represented in the parliament (like anywhere) but compared to some other countries I suppose it could be worse.
There's the SP.A / PS who are notorious for some large scale corruption scandals that harmed their reputation. Not a popular party at this point and afaik their popularity is only decreasing whereas the PVDA's is increasing. Aside from that the only one worth mentioning is the Green party (Groen / Ecolo) which doesn't really get shit done.
LSP and De Strijd, apparently
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parti_Communautaire_National-Européen
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party_(Belgium)

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You know Galloway and Farage do have similar career trajectories, good spot user.

PSL and the WWP have a big influence (moreso the PSL) on the ANSWER Coalition. ANSWER is a really broad coalition to the point where the politics of the PSL tend to tail behind the liberal orgs they're allying themselves with. Jodi Dean is a member of PSL.

If you want to talk about old-people, the reason why no-one really knows the exact details over the split is because PSL/WWP are one of those parties where you just get a lot of young people who enter then leave like a revolving door. What renders them constant are old people who've been active

The RCP is basically in every protest, tailing behind whatever's popular. I can respect them for the fact that you always see vocal RCPers in every protest, but the fact that they're there just because they're tailing behind whatever the liberals are doing. When a RCP person walked up to me I was going to dismiss her saying I wasn't a liberal, but was then taken aback after realizing she was a member of the RCP.

Trotskyist tendnecies are the only tendencies that really takes consistent lines against identity politics.

The wobblies are multi-tendency. There are some IWW groups dominated by Marxists

Do it dude! Who knows how many commies in Greenland are sad they don't even have a party to represent them.

Canada

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Canada
Ye olden days party.Marxist-Leninist's. Been around since it's foundation in 1921, never held any large amount of power outside a few delegates in Ontario provincial legislature now and again. Considered revisionist by the hard line M-L's of CPC (M-L). Pretty run of the mill otherwise, Pro USSR, Pro North Korea, Anti-War. Probably the most interesting thing they ever did was an important legal battle called Figueroa v. Canada. Which won an important victory for minor political parties by decreasing the number requirement's for remaining a party.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Canada_(Marxist–Leninist)
Split from the main party in the 1970's. Their Hoxhaist's and Anti-Revisionists. Not sure how powerful they are because I never really hear anything about them. They have done some organizing in my city though so I guess they still have some traction.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Socialists_(Canada)
Trot's mostly. Very active in my city especially in universities. They operate several sub groups or projects like Fightback. They have a strange position of supporting the New Democratic Party (NDP), a socdem party, out of the belief that they can either convert it into a workers party or expose socdems as shit.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Communist_Party_of_Canada
Marxist Leninist Maoist's. Exactly what you expect of a maoist group. Advocates for Protracted Peoples War on the Canadian government. Don't do any elections stuff. 80% sure that they are some kind of RCMP psy-op or something.

Basically the same as their counterparts in the US and world wide so not much going on their

Was thinking about joining one of them soon.

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What do you have to lose? It's worth a shot, and you never know what could happen.

Most modern leftist parties in the west are highly urban. How do you do protracted people’s war without rural support?

That's precisely it. You can't. So like most Maoist parties in the west they are LARPers doomed to fail.

Um, sweatie
linkedin.com/pulse/florida-communist-front-towards-protracted-peoples-war-hamdan-mba

FULLY. AUTOMATED. LUXURY. ALLIGATOR. COMMUNISM

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Why do black leftist-types incessantly use the words “honky” and “cracker”

cringe tbh

shut the fuck up cracka

I'm gonna wait until someone does a better job at this than me.

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