What do we think about the Democratic Socialists of America, Zig Forums? Are they alright? Do they have a chance, or not? Should I join?
The DSA
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Hudson Sanchez
Basically social democraps.
Austin Foster
Well, elaborate.
Connor Roberts
They talk about inequality a whole bunch in their material, but never exploitation or imperialism. There is definitely a sizable Marxist faction, as well as some Keynesian market socialists, but overall the rank and file would be content with universal healthcare and wage hikes.
John Anderson
I was wondering the same thing. I want to find a party that can actually get something done.
Imperialism is imho a massive issue, see pic related. Is it possible to get them more class-conscious, though? And who might be a better choice?
Kayden Wright
That's what the refoundation caucus is trying to do.
In the USA I honestly don't think there is a better choice right now.
Thomas Bell
An unwieldy, dysfunctional federation of local chapters and nobody knows what they're doing. Will probably self-terminate if Bernie wins in 2020, or if Bernie loses in 2020. Also probably our only hope (in America). I joined after Cville because the alt-right pissed me off – and I mean really pissed me off – and I saw pictures of Democrat Cops of America flags there, and I thought, "Okay that's it. I've had it. I want to join those guys. At least they're putting their neck on the line." The both-sides-ism of the liberals is disgraceful and I couldn't do it anymore.
It's a constructive way of channeling my anger about that instead of a destructive way, as the destructive path would have possibly ended up with me in the bushes outside one of those alt-right guys' houses while armed with an SKS. I was that angry. A lot of you would probably want that but I don't think that's the right way to go.
I was a liberal centrist two years ago and now I'm reading Capital with help from those David Harvey lectures on YouTube.
Matthew Cook
yep. if youre rank & file you probably havent heard but there is an extremely large amount of drama going on in the upper echelons right now. probably a split within the next year
Ryan Brooks
Does it have anything to do with 1) that cop who was briefly on the national board 2) that article the website ran about how democratic socialism is necessary for the US to compete with China?
Leo Murphy
The cop thing is really a joke and a meme at this point. He got ousted not only from the national board but also his chapter (well, he resigned and stormed off in a huff) and is now trying to (lol) hijack his local Our Revolution chapter; i.e. the Bernie people. No idea about the China article.
From what I can tell, the conflicts are mainly over organization and direction. Classic conflicts between reform and revolution. But the organization is still growing it seems? I just read Philadelphia passed 600 members.