Should there be a P in LGBT? Is anti-pedophilia a spook...

Should there be a P in LGBT? Is anti-pedophilia a spook? Are minor-attracted peoples the victim of IdPol as much as gays and blacks?

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Pedophilia is entering the mainstream and is becoming a part of popular culture regardless if you like it or not, sooner or later give or take 3~ years It'll be as seriously debated of a issue as transgendered/blacks/gay rights, sorry if you can't see it, but people like you will be the first to go in the public spotlight. :)

So yes, there's a perfectly legitimate place and discussion to talk about it on here.

When will Zig Forums learn? I could see people arguing for the age of consent to be lowered to 16 but pedophilia will never become mainstream.

LGBT is bourgeous through and through
pls >>>/liberty/

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Lesbian
Gay
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I like it🙈

Do you have an actual argument against pedophilia or are your feelings just hurt?

age of consent is a matter of public debate. No matter what it is, relation with a minor should be in the open and involving the parents and the state in all cases.

If I had a kid I wouldn't want some grown man fucking her

Why wouldn't that be her choice to consent though?

children are not your property, fash

I mean it depends on the age of the child. I don't think a prepubescent child really can understand what sex is

Wrong

There should only be three letters in LGBT, that being LGB. Maybe LGBIA. Any other letters are mental disorders and snowflake identities.
Being gay, bi, being born with both sex's genitalia (intersex), and abstaining from sex (asexual) are all perfectly acceptable, but it stops being acceptable when you ask a doctor to slice your genitals, when you glue dildos to yourself in public at parades, and when you bug-chase. Those are disorders. Pedophilia is a different case. AOC should be lowered to something more reasonable – not to the age of 8 or whatever, something like 15-16 years, and it should depend on whether a person has hit puberty yet. No puberty = no sex. Lowering AOC is not just a gay community issue though.

In what way can they not understand sex? But It's their choice to consent to a given circumstance and if they want to go through with it or not, it depends entirely on them.

Everything is my property, my property

cringe

Kids are more likely to be manipulated and not know what they're getting into, at least imo. Just seems weird to me

People have been repeating this for years and it never stops being retarded.

Over all it's been the opposite worldwide. In the 1800s, there were states in the US where 10 was the age of consent. I think Delaware was lower. AoCs raised in the 20th century (and a few in the 21st, at the same time that homosexuality was still just being legalized in parts of the first world), the middle east moved to shun pederastic traditions, etc. and the shit guys like Jimmy Paige and David Bowie did in the '70s would not be defended today. There's also a culture of paranoia about it, which probably isn't particularly helpful, but doesn't suggest 'mainstreaming' either.

That's incel lol
It already is

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There's already laws that consider manipulation or pressuring to be "rape", lowering the AoC drastically wouldn't change that.


I read the case of Lorri Mattix (Maddox), she is in her 60s now and said she has 0 regrets or mental/psychological trauma from her time with said 70s/80s rock singers. Hasn't really changed much with other teen groupies like that sapphire broad.
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Prepubescent kids aren't even sexually functional. The thing about understanding sex is you have to be able to actually relate it to your body. If you can't cum because your balls haven't dropped yet, that should be a really obvious red flag that your understanding is inhibited.

But why is "cum" an indicator of capability to consent? Of fertility, sure, but It's very unreasonable to say consent starts where fertility does.

Depends how drastically we're talking about here. I could see it lowered anywhere from 16-14 and wouldn't be too weirded out. Teens that are are going through puberty and many are attractive.

That's my biggest issue

I personally believe 12 or 13 is reasonable

Because it's a basic part of male sexual functioning and effects how someone experiences sex. Add in the rush of hormones, and adolescence is a kind of natural enlightenment where this issue is concerned.

I personally believe 9 or 8 is reasonable

None of this is in regard to the capability to consent nor free will (or perhaps a lack there of) though.

That's probably the absolute lowest that I wouldn't find totally weird.

I feel like that's too low

Can never be too low enough
:^)

How about we let people who study medical science and the like decide which equation should be used to define a healthy age of consent?
No?

Only in 2d do I go that degenerate

No

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18 is worldwide standard. 18 is not a reasonable AOC.

Why isn't it a reasonable age of consent?
I don't' care about underage people having sex with other underage people, as in, it's none of my business

I'm sure you do.

Why isn't 22 a reasonable age of consent?

It is as well
Why isn't 45 a reasonable age of consent?

Diddling kids is child abuse, and the making of child pornography requires said abuse. It is all illegal, and it will stay illegal. It's a waste of time to argue about it, and we should jail people who bring it up just to be sure - they are likely pedo's as well.
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Why isn't 80 a reasonable AOC?

If I had a 15 year old daughter, I'd want her to marry and give her virginity to a good 30 year old man.
Much better than her being a Tinder whore from age 18-35, and then settling down with whatever desperate retard still wants her, and finally giving me a downs syndrome grandchild when she's 40 years old and I'm already dead.

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It seems what one wants from age of consent law is to maximize available pleasure whole minimizing harm. I feel a system based around age ranges is superior: even a five year old experimenting with another 5 year old seems to hold no extreme danger, however, a 5 year old and an 18 year old or adult seems extremely prone to abuse. Thereby I'd argue that any sexual encounter within a year or two age range should be fine but extreme gaps involving children and adults should obviously be made illegal.

hello Zig Forums

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16 is common around the world.

One of the issues with this topic is that it's 1. so loaded, emotionally, and 2. pretty much all arbitrary. Committing a gradation fallacy when it comes to age is almost impossible NOT to do.

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You realize elderly people can't reproduce you abortion survivor

This place gets so stupid when topic is LGTB……….
Why is it even so important to discuss……? Do people who just became left wing still linger to these subjects?

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The absolute state of Zig Forums

wait til you see the-OH NO NO NO

jesus

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The whole "pedosexual" thing was made up by Zig Forums in the first place. Don't let them gaslight you.

You're neglecting legitimate pedophilic orgranizations and communities with that statement.

We got em'

Its that same french kidfucker again, isnt it

real agorist libertarian here: yes. anti-CP laws are government oppression.

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