It's on the main news since yesterday - the article already tells it all but I'll still summarize it from what I know.
An italian farmer shot the man, surname Sacko, while he was collecting tin sheets for the shack where he used to live.
During the first moments the killing was published onto the main media outlets, Sacko was depicted by right-wing newspapers as a small thief. Sacko was one of the many migrant (mostly black) workers pickin' tomatoes for a bunch of euros per day in abject (slavery-like) conditions in southern Italy.
The difference was that he was an organizer in a independent left-wing union, the USB, and he was probably shot because he was giving "problems".
After a day of protest by other migrant workers in Calabria and in other towns in Italy, the present prime minister of Italy mentioned the murder during a session at the italian parliament, while the two chiefs of the leading parties (Matteo Salvini and Luigi di Maio) are still silent about it. Salvini is actually the equivalent of the chief of homeland security and di Maio is minister of labour. Their silence is thus very important (and telling).
Shit like this has always happened and always will, but there's been an upsurge of it in the recent years.
Rank and file unions, also originally known as class unions (coined by the Italian International Communist Party, specifically the Il Partito fraction), differ from the usual type of union or really almost all other unions today as is explained here: international-communist-party.org/English/TheCPart/TCP_002.htm#FirstCongress. The movement for this, organised around the same fraction, started in '92 as a revival attempt during the late '80s/early '90s (mostly) political but also economic crisis in Italy then: international-communist-party.org/English/Document/92Toward.htm.
Considering Salvini wants to deport them all, I imagine this may get pretty big…
Hunter Reyes
That's in his proclammations, yes, but so it was in Mussolini's, to keep it local, and there are countless other examples of modern bourgeois-democratic leaders speaking the same rhetoric but ultimately doing nothing.
The fact of the matter is that such labour, truly, is among some of the most cost-efficient in the country, and that once removed it would need to be removed. The same nationalism would thus require substituting the same effiiciency in labour power, or higher, by placing the burden on the native national proletariat. This is what the disadvantages of nativistic capitalism imply in real terms, beyond the 'they do the jobs we won't do!' cheap surface rhetoric, often coming from the left.
In truth it is beyond any real political theatre that the deportation of non-native proletarians happens the most, or really happens at all, usually through already long-existing State law that allows the hunting down of those which are non-productive, subproductive or considered too much of a long-term burden because, even if they individually valorise commodities that much more, the prospect of them wanting to be rewarded for it by truly settling and bringing family members guarantees a later generation of proletarians then not precarious enough to produce for and with so far below the socially average labour time. Just look at specifically who ICE targets in the US; those affiliated to a precariat or soon bound to exit it.
Michael Ward
Reminder that chauvinists fresh off the boat from Zig Forums will say that migrants are all scabs
Adrian King
Shit OP, I've been looking for that painting for ages. What's the name of the original?
Luis Hall
they'll get banned fortunately
Caleb Diaz
Fourth Estate, by de Volpedo. USB's website, if you can navigate an Italian website, uses a lot of old internationalist communist paintings, which they also hold printed on banners and so on at rallies and strikes.
Juan Diaz
Wonderful, thanks comrade. But I think using paintings with superimposed banners in that way is making Adorno spin in his grave like a mad man.
Andrew Bailey
Pretty decent post.
That being said, the point of immigration is to prolong the lifespan of Western imperialism
Leo Rodriguez
"Immigration" is a false concept reliant on the bourgeois logic of the validity of imaginary lines on the ground which exist only to protect bourgeois property.
Bentley Brooks
There was nationalism before capitalism, the bourgeoisie, and modern border control and borders/visas under socialism.
Anthony Sullivan
Borders and nationalism are just an extension of the concept of private property tbh
Jayden Smith
Indigenous North American tribes had a concept of territory and collective tribal identity if not "nationalism" in the modern sense. They fought wars with neighboring tribes and understood that the white settlers were invading and displacing them.
These things will disappear under communism but saying "its a spook lol" tells us nothing about why it still exists or what should be a socialist position in national conflicts.
Can you honestly tell me that you think we should have been indifferent in the Vietnam simply because both sides were nation-states? Hell, the Iraq wars were a conflict between two bourgeois nation states but its not like I don't think that the US was the aggressor and an oppressor nation
Noah Miller
READ MARX, READ LENIN, READ STALIN
Elijah Campbell
Not really, no.
That isn't nationalism you revisionist boob. Because we still are living under a bourgeois society that has a vestigial need for the delusion of nation states.
Try to be less of a reactionary dunce.
Leo Morales
The tribe and the nation-State are indeed two particularising forms under which class societies exist, but they're very different, especially the modern post-Jacobinist type of nation-State which is Wilsonian and self-determining.
I think Lenin already had, in essence, the right idea after he saw what the Second International's betrayal meant, with all its side-taking in what is essentially always going to be a bourgeois struggle, in a world that since the 20th century no longer has a progressive bourgeoisie (the world is already as proletarianised and commodified as can be in at least primitive form): marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jul/x03.htm#fw3
See also his War and Socialism.
Chase Cruz
Correction: the first concrete form of Jacobinist nationalism, working around the first nation-State form and configuration, was all about the binding function of citizenship. It was the modern Wilsonian form introduced in the early 20th century that introduced national self-determination to accompany the outgrowth of an extremely liquid capital going beyond national boundary.
It's always time for the suffercialitties of bourgeois democracy towards the curtaining laws of capital:
Isaiah Young
Not so much prolong its lifespan but rather to solve its problems by benefitting from an outflow of a displaced precariat, which is then to bolster the local proletariat with it or discard it, to facilitate new levels of capital's liquidity beyond borders. Capital desperately needs everything it can get in an age where the ratio of constant to variable capital is like 3-7. The destruction of constant capital in war-stricken areas is also not enough of a motivation to end war, as empire currently still profits more from the weapons market and a destablised, controllable set of regimes within which multinationals can bargain through the respective nation-States.
I don't get this. What do these regions represent?
Logan Cook
Blue is lega nord vote, yellow M5S, red PD.
James Thomas
black is Imperialised Austrian Territory
Nathan Peterson
This is why we have to stop illegal migrants, and boot them out immediately all across the Western world. These people get exploited mainly for their cheap labor and their inability to legally defend themselves. The smugglers sell them delusions of grandeur which never get realized. The employers demand them for their cheap labor. If the laws were enforced there would be no demand for illegals, and illegals would have no desire to go and work there.
Bentley Rivera
Please point out where
Ethan Clark
Ancient Rome, Ancient Egypt and probably China as well.
CALATE TUTTI A PIAZZA REPUBBLICA CHE SE PIJAMO ER PALAZZO D'INVERNO
today at 14.00 in Piazza della Repubblica in Rome there will be the first national march of Power to the People, toghether with da best union USB and with pretty much everything to the left of LeU succdems.
DIOBOIA VENITE CHE POI VI OFFRO DA BERE E SE VOLETE VI PRESENTO LE LOLI PIÙ LEGALI DEL MIO COLLETTIVO
Joshua Morris
It was a City state that ended up with an Empire Either a Kingdom that kept falling to outside powers or just another piece of a craved up Empire ran by Macedonians. They were servants to the Divine Emperor, not a nation state. You can see this by the constant replacement of Imperial dynasties who had very different cultures from the last.
While there were patriots in all these places there was no nationalism because that requires the idea of a nation state to be around, which until the treaty of Westphalia didn't really exist.
