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Since the DOW thread descended into autism, let's have a thread where we discuss investment opportunities in the context of a marxist economic analysis. I'm looking to put some money into Chinese stocks, any suggestions? Xinjiang's development will score some big profits for a few construction companies and private security firms for sure.

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If you have enough money to make meaningful investments you have no reason to be leftist in the first place.

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I realize socialism isn't in my direct economic interests, but I'm nonetheless convinced that it is the more functional and equitable economic system. As an individual, though, there's not much I can do to change the current system outside of being active in group politics and doing illegalism, both of which I already do to a certain extent. All I want to do is extend my knowledge of marxism into making some money for myself.

Anyone who has enough money to make investment anything else than an on paper game of "could I if i had money?" doesnt want to support leftists. Living of off private property incentivises you to oppose communism.

Invest in Bunkercoin, it's going to be the hot new cryptocurrency.

invest in revolutionary parties.

Venezuelan stocks are legit good,

invest in labour vouchers bro

Holy mother of fuck you're retarded.

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These, also supply arms to revleft orgs plz.

But that does not mean you will oppose communism in all cases.
Historical bourgeois bolsheviks have been very rare, but they have existed.
Who here /individual dengist investor gang/?

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Engels was a fiction made up by Max Stirner to troll Marx into writing a book so big he himself could not finish it

I thought max stirner was engels' alter ego?

So Engels wasn't a leftist because he was from a rich family?


Revolution ain't free you gotta pay for it. The Bolsheviks robbed banks to fund the revolution. We must use both legal and illegal means to get money to fund the revolution

That's what they want you to believe

Now the thread has been utterly derailed. Sorry OP

but that would make a few people with a brain from here rich, and maybe even make leftypol realize that over 70% of british millionaires are from the impoverished working class, and that "old money" in modern economy has over 90% chance to disappear in 3 generations

also god forbid, leftypol might figure out that there is no big bad porky exploiting workers, and that almost all of fortune 500 companies really are just tech companies where 2 or 3 people work from their garage, that stereotypical "porky" is actually a worker who owns 0 people
or that most workers are self employed these days

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Top lel

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if you are any good at it why do you even need a company or the bosses? you are a fucking coder, you have the means of production in your lap (aka laptop), if you think you are so great at it go at it yourself
you cant have a startup in eu tho, too much regulations and too little in return for it all, you gotta move

if they cant hire an indian or bangladesh teenage codemonkey for whatever bloatware you are doing, you must be awful at negotiating or something

I will, which will increase the ability to exploit me more, so I can earn more.
But I live in city which is given name "birthplace of blockchain technologies"
EU is working hard to remove all of them since our republic joined it.
and too little in return for it all, you gotta move
While I have no doubt that India have fuckton more genius programmers than our tiny country have, if you want to code something meaningful you need a few generic codes from here, and couple of dozens of generic Indian coders will not be able to provide product of time of tenth of quantities.

And I have a few stories about factory workers in similar positions,.

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Similar factory* positions

source? i've seen similar info but nothing this extreme.
source?
source?

because they have the social connections and marketing to actually obtain jobs. self-employed persons spend a great deal of time simply trying to break into markets and find work.

New idea:
Invest in my project to work on new editions of Marx's Capital as well as advance Marxist theory into the 21st century. I live in a developing country. My costs of living are fairly cheap. For a relatively low cost someone could pay me a monthly salary and I could spend 8 hours a day translating, annotating, updating, and re-publishing Marxist works as well as critiquing and writing new theory.

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bruh
ok i know i cant imply implications and leave it at that, but honestly just copy pasteing that in the google should find you enough sources

if you ever needed a more clear sign your skills are not marketable enough or outright useless, you cant be smart enough to run a successful business in the first place
back when i was selling private math classes my phone couldnt stop ringing, and i also know electricians and plumbers who gotta keep their phones off and just turn them on when they need a job because they get calls every 5 minutes

if you need a great deal of time to get yourself a job… why do you think you are entitled to that job?
listen, i spend great deal of time to get myself some 1st class heroin and hookers but i dont expect that to be my fucking job


even newer idea: fund your own hobbies with your own earned money
cant reap before you sow, can you now?

Even newer idea:
You invest in my project on new heroin and hookers for myself. Its almost as if there isnt infinite shit to go around for everyone to do their hobbies. I mean how disconnected from reality you have to be to propose to other people to give you a salary solely for pursuing your own hobbies? You even have people dying from starvation and everything, but you think other people should invest in your Marxist publishing?

pretty true

From a Marxist standpoint the best areas to invest in the economy are the newest sectors like tech meme shit. As time passes rates of profit falls and profitability of different sectors level out. However many parts of the tech industry are very new as as such this process of the rate of profit falling and leveling out with older parts of the economy hasn’t been completed yet offering these industries very high profitability. (for now) Also more automation from a leftist standpoint is good because Capitalism can’t handle an automation crisis and automation over the long term reduces he rate of profit of the entire economy.

But it increased.
Why? I dont understand your understanding of automation. Not everyone can develop automation. Requirements for development of automation are almost perfectly in the hands of a very small techno-bourgies. And these techno-bourgies who are the only ones who can develop automation, can hyper profit from it while everyone else gets impoverished because they can not compete. And they can use these profits to entrench themselves so hard, that they automatically win any sort of physical conflict with the impoverished masses.
Automation will enable fascism. Not communism. Because of automation, there will be no need for class struggle. Marx was not aware of nuclear first strike strategy. There's no struggle in a successful nuclear first strike.

Basically few successful automation porkies can live life in luxury and nuke everyone else.

I stand to inherit enough land from my parents to create a small ancap microstate and it's fucking terrifying. Why do you think porkies have entire retinues of advisors to manage their money for them? I'd love to get rid of it all and give it to some commune or co-op so that they could work the land and I wouldn't be burdened with the responsibility

Blowing money on hookers and junk isn't the same as publishing texts on political economy and educating people.

There pretty much is.

It decreases over time, due to automation.

The technology needs to be developed once. Than it can be built over and over again.

No all you need is a bunch of STEMfags and moderate funding.

Not true. A few million people can’t win a war against everyone else.

If Silicone Vallytry to go to war with everyone else they’ll lose. Also the only people who have Nukes are states. And Silicone Vally is filled with Ancaps.

A) Porkies don’t have Nuke
B) IF they nuked everyone else the radiation would kill them. Gold covered Gates don’t stop radiation
C) Once those Porkies have the tech it can be stolen be socialist organizations who can use it to developed parallel societies and there goes capitalism.

Also one thing you left out that Capitalism will collapse from automation not when almost all labor is automated but when automation leaves a third of people unemployed.

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You could have saved yourself a lot of time by just saying "I agree" instead of rewording "capitalism can't handle automation."

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Wouldn't automation just diminish the value and significance of labour as a cost driver?
Lowering surplus value?

The rate of profit refers to the relationship between surplus value and total value. With economic development the relationship between dead and living labour skews heavily towards dead labour. This means that while profits can increase in absolute terms they can decrease in relationship to investment.

It would, leading to a major economic crisis

Yep, thuss lowering the rate of profit.

I invested in Alibaba (BABA) and have gotten great returns so far OP.

EU is going to impose import tax on every package from china, better sell them before it's too late