Boy it's happening

GANG GANG GANG GANG GANG

This is FUCKING weird. As someone who was on the right and never was just a mainstream liberal either, I don't know how to feel about Trump getting along with Kim. When I was a teen I liked Trump too, that was 12 years ago however.

Trump is a baboon as usual. I hope he gets to see Pyongyang some day to show how retarded all the anti-communist lies about the DPRK are.

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"When I was in Best Korea I was…shocked. Shocked over how clean their city was. You go to NY or wherever theres trash all over. Pyongyang is probably the cleanest cities I've ever seen. Lets just say Mexicans would have a hard time finding work. Really clean city…"

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I support him when he does good stuff like this and attack him when he does bad stuff in Syria strikes.

I'm actually pretty happy this turned out better than expected. I had expected Bolton to blow it up. Or maybe Wormtongue is planning for the long game.
As usual though, the patriotards over at r/politics are already denouncing him over it.

Why are libs so mad at this quote? it's not even defending North Korea, obviously trump is an in-eloquent retard, but what he's putting across is "We can't let the bad things they've done get in the way of reaching out and coming to an agreement which will ensure the safety of the region, ourselves, and improve the lives of the Citizens of North Korea," by saying we don't let history of human rights records get in the way of forming ties with other countries that have done bad things.

because trump keeps accidentally destroying the veneer of American politics. same reason they were mad when he said that Putin wasn't the only world leader who kills people.

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Can someone PLEASE tell Trump that you unbutton a suit jacket before sitting down?

Seriously, kids, don't do this.

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Guy's worth over a billion dollars, how does he not know this?

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uh sure if you count debt to foreign banks as value

If Trump was smart he would use the Belgian Congo as an excuse to justify Tariffs on the EU.

IT'S HAPPENING

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The way he talks, the way he acts is very Nouveau riche. He wouldn't be out of place among 1920's bootleggers.

Because Trump said it. That's it.

As the other user said, deep down the only difference is that Trump isn't hiding his views behind a tl;dr speech crafted by PR experts about how "in the interests of peace and freedom, the United States must find common ground, to the greater good of humanity" etc etc.

Though the neocons are spazzing out the hardest on Twitter, some even insisting this is Trump's "Munich moment".

This he keeps fucking up the kayfabe

Which is kinda weird considering he's from old money. Pretty sure even his grandfather was loaded.

Trump is bourg but acts like he is petit bourg for some reason. Probably because he is in real estate/branding and not anything like industry or finance.

Because ideological liberalism is founded on screeching autistically about these bad things.

N. Korean foraging for his dinner of grass.

Malnutrition.

Pyongyang v. Rest of N. Korea

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Bloody Yanks, if your money doesn't come from over 200 years ago it isn't classed as old money. That's like saying the Kennedys are old money.

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I've noticed this - I call it "rich kitsch" in my head. The gilded rooms are too much. A lot of actually rich people load themselves up with tacky shit that just seems to exist to be expensive.

Trump's compliments towards Kim are probably actually just his version of diplomacy. This one's thought out, at least to an extent. His flirtations with Putin and Duterte are more authentic, however.

You wouldn't consider the railroad barons or the captains of industry from the 19th century as "old money"?

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Status symbols.

Why would I class them as old money when they made their fortunes? The term nouveau riche was popularised to describe the merchants and plantation owners so why would the captains of industry who came later ever be thought of as old money.

South America
Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Operations funding the education of dictators and reactionaries throughout the cold war to stop the spread of communism.
Deliberetely destroying Venezuala's economy for oil and to stop socialism spreading.
Trading arms for hostages and diverting money to drug running death squads.
Allowed salvador armies to rape american nuns.
Made 632 assassination attempts against Fidel Castro.
Africa
Niger special forces operations and covering them up for several years.
Supporting apartheid.
Tipping off South African police as to the disguise and location of Nelson Mandella resulting in his arrest.
Middle East
Backing Saddam.
The war on terror, which was a massive failure and helped create more terror groups.
Deliberetely leaving equipment and vehicles in ISIS territory for them to easily capture without resistance.
Looking the other way when Palestinians were repeatedly massacred and blatant human rights abuse.
Starting wars and invading the middle east for oil.
Promoted and protected the growing of poppy fields (which are used to make heroin) in Afghanistan during their occupation.
Internal
Starting the war on drugs while the CIA and FBI was the main buyer and distributor of Cocain which it bought from Peru to fund it's operations.
Red lining from the 1930's to 1970's to deliberetely target black neighbourhoods and put them into an eternal cycle of poverty.
Making Crack cocain (A less pure substance of cocain which is commonly found in poorer neighbourhoods) a higher prison sentance then regular cocain (which is commonly found in richer neighbourhoods)
Taking several million dollars in bribes to allow, otherwise illegal, money transfer of 1.3 trillion dollars to the 1% of income earners.
Spying on civilians to such an extent that would make Orwell blush.
Reagan confusing old movies with foreign policy.
Crushing workers rights during the reagan era.
Reagan trippling national debt.
Refusing to report to the International Criminal Court and protected war criminals for years.
Forcing slave labour on people in prison.
Privatised prisons forcing criminals to stay in prison despite being legible to leave early and exploiting criminals beyond acceptable standards.
Employing psychological torture in prisons that was too cruel for the 18th century.
Left several thousand civilians without clean water and used them as a bargianing chip during election campaigns while still leaving them without water.
10 people dying each day in police custody
The ethnic cleansing of native americans prompting the second ammendment and standing rock incident.
Cold war
Starting the Cuban Missile crisis by putting missiles in Turkey prompting the USSR's responce.
Asia
Supporting South Vietnam despite the population voting to reunite under communist rule
Executing several thousand people in the Korean War and helping with the killing of 1.5 million civilians.
Drafting un-willing soldiers for the vietnam war.
Deliberately destroying North Korea's economy for no reason.
Bombing Korean soil after there were no more buildings to bomb.
WW2
Shooting surrendering German soldiers and filmed it
Bombing of Dresden

like the U.S. Perhaps?

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Date of support Country Regime Notes
1991–present Azerbaijan Heydar Aliyev; Ilham Aliyev[9][10]
1992–present Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev[11][12]
1959–present Singapore People's Action Party[13][13][14]
1984–present Brunei Hassanal Bolkiah[15][16][17][18]
2011–present Vietnam Trương Tấn Sang[19]
2014–present Thailand Prayut Chan-o-cha[20]
1994–present Tajikistan Emomali Rahmon[19]
2006–present Turkmenistan Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow[19]
1945–present Saudi Arabia House of Saud[21][22][23]
1999–present Bahrain Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa[24]
1972–present Qatar House of Thani[25][26]
1970–present Oman Qaboos bin Said al Said[23]
1954–present Jordan Hashemite Dynasty[27][28]
1971–present United Arab Emirates United Arab Emirates[29]
2014–present Egypt Abdel Fattah el-Sisi[30]
1777–present Morocco Alaouite dynasty[31]
1999–present Djibouti Ismaïl Omar Guelleh[32][33]
1979–present Equatorial Guinea Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo[19]
1982–present Cameroon Paul Biya[34][35]
1990–present Chad Idriss Déby[36]
1986–present Uganda Yoweri Museveni[37]
2000–present Rwanda Paul Kagame[38]

Date of support Country Regime Notes
1876–1911 Mexico Porfirio Díaz[42] During the Porfiriato, tensions between the U.S. and Mexico were high.
1929–2000 Mexico Institutional Revolutionary Party[43]
1932–1944 El Salvador Maximiliano Hernández Martínez[44]
1933–1949 Honduras Tiburcio Carías Andino[45]
1950–1958 Venezuela Marcos Pérez Jiménez[46]
1908–1935 Venezuela Juan Vicente Gómez[47]
1898–1920 Guatemala Manuel Estrada Cabrera[48]
1931–1944 Guatemala Jorge Ubico[48]
1948–1956 Peru Manuel Odria[49]
1952–1959 Cuba Fulgencio Batista[50]
1930–1961 Dominican Republic Rafael Trujillo[51] Later overthrown with at least some aid from the CIA.[52]
1954–1986 Guatemala Efraín Ríos Montt and other Juntas[53][54][55]
See also: 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état
1963–1982 Honduras Oswaldo López Arellano and other Juntas[56][57]
1979–1982 El Salvador Revolutionary Government Junta of El Salvador[58]
1971–1978 Bolivia Hugo Banzer[59]
1973–1985 Uruguay Civic-military dictatorship of Uruguay[60][61]
1976–1983 Argentina National Reorganization Process[62][63]
1964–1985 Brazil Brazilian military government[41][64]
1936–1979 Nicaragua Somoza family[65]
1957–1971 Haiti François Duvalier[66]
1971–1986 Haiti Jean-Claude Duvalier[66]
1968–1981 Panama Omar Torrijos[67]
1983–1989 Panama Manuel Noriega[67] Later overthrown by U.S. in Operation Just Cause in 1989.
1954–1989 Paraguay Alfredo Stroessner[68][69]
1973–1990 Chile Augusto Pinochet[70][71]
1992–2000 Peru Alberto Fujimori[72]
1948–1960 South Korea[73] Syngman Rhee
1958–1969 Pakistan Ayub Khan See also: Pakistan–United States relations during the Cold War era.
1961–1979 South Korea Park Chung-hee[74]
1979–1988 South Korea Chun Doo-hwan[75]
1955–1963 South Vietnam Ngo Dinh Diem[76] Later assassinated in a U.S.-backed coup. See also: Cable 243, Arrest and assassination of Ngo Dinh Diem.
1970–1975 Cambodia Lon Nol[77]
1969–1971 Pakistan Yahya Khan[78][79][80]
1941–1979 Iran Mohammad Reza Pahlavi[81][82] See also: 1953 Iranian coup d'état.
1965–1986 Philippines Ferdinand Marcos[83][84]
1978–1988 Pakistan Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq[85]
1963–1967 Iraq Abdul Salam Arif, Abdul Rahman Arif[86]
1982–1990 Iraq Saddam Hussein[87] Later seen as an enemy of the U.S. in the Gulf War and deposed in the Iraq War. See: United States support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq war.
1967–1998 Indonesia Suharto[88][89] See also: Allen Lawrence Pope.
1949–1953 Syria al-Za'im-Shishkali-al-Hinnawi Junta[90][91][92] See: Husni al-Za'im, Adib Shishakli, Sami al-Hinnawi.
1999–2008 Pakistan Pervez Musharraf[93]
1990–2016 Uzbekistan Islam Karimov[19]
1990–2005 Kyrgyzstan Askar Akayev[94]
1990–2012 Yemen Ali Abdullah Saleh[95]
1969–1985 Sudan Gaafar Nimeiry[96]
1978–1991 Somalia Siad Barre[97]
1980–1990 Liberia Samuel Doe[98]
1991–2012 Ethiopia Meles Zenawi[19]
1965–1997 Zaire
Democratic Republic of the Congo Mobutu Sese Seko[99][100]
1982–1990 Chad Hissène Habré[101]
1981–2011 Egypt Hosni Mubarak[102]
2012–2013 Egypt Mohamed Morsi[103]
1948–199South Africa National Party (South Africa)[104][105]
1987–2011 Tunisia Zine El Abidine Ben Ali[106]
1936–1975 Spain Francisco Franco[107] At times opposed diplomatically because of fascist leanings. See: Francoist Spain.
1933–1974 Portugal António de Oliveira Salazar[108] See Estado Novo (Portugal)
1941–1945 Soviet Union Joseph Stalin[109] Later considered an enemy of the US. See Cold War.
1948–1980 Yugoslavia Josip Broz Tito[110] See Informbiro period.
1967–1974 Greece Greek military junta[111]
1980–1989 Turkey Turkish military junta[112]
1969–1989 Romania Nicolae Ceaușescu[113]
1941–1975 Republic of China Chiang Kai-shek[114]
1948–1957 Thailand Plaek Phibunsongkhram[115]
1963–1973 Thailand Thanom Kittikachorn[116]
1958–1963 Thailand Sarit Thanarat[117]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caravan_of_Death
Name Date Location Deaths Notes
Spanish Embassy Massacre January 31, 1980 Guatemala City 36 Indigenous peasant activists were burnt alive alongside former vice president Eduardo Cáceres among others
Río Negro Massacre March 13, 1982 Río Negro, Baja Verapaz 177 Women and children were abused and murdered
Plan de Sánchez massacre July 18, 1982 Plan de Sánchez, Baja Verapaz 250 Mostly women and children, and almost exclusively ethnic Achi Maya were abused and murdered
Dos Erres massacre December 6, 1982 Dos Erres 226
Panzós massacre[1] May 29, 1978 Panzós 30-60 Residents of village of Panzós were killed by the army

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Government_Junta_of_El_Salvador
Student Massacre of 1975 July 30, 1975 National Hospital Rosales, San Salvador unknown (over 100)[5]
Cathedral Slope Massacre May 8, 1979 San Salvador Cathedral 24[6] Civil War followe

1932 Salvadoran peasant massacre January 22, 1932 – July 11, 1932 La matanza ("The Massacre") 10,000[4] and 40,000 Led to decline of native Pipil (Nahuatl) language and lack of linguistic self-identification due to induced climate of fear
Student Massacre of 1975 July 30, 1975 National Hospital Rosales, San Salvador unknown (over 100)[5]
Cathedral Slope Massacre May 8, 1979 San Salvador Cathedral 24[6] Civil War followed

El Calabozo massacre August 21–22, 1982 El Calabozo, San Vicente Department more than 200[7]
El Mozote massacre December 11, 1981 El Mozote up to 900[8]
Massacre of Tenango and Guadalupe Feb 28-Mar 1,1983 Suchitoto

DICTATORSHIP AND GENOCIDE COURTESY OF UNCLE SAM.

Good shit. If anyone's interested in some reading on the US's constant involvement in regime change etc. I'd recommend .pdf related.

If you had a bit of a brain, you would have known that in europe people used to raise small animals in their household plot of land.

A small hutch which houses a small number of rabbits, a henhouse for some eggs. This small scale farming was popular in villages because it does not take much space. The fodder for animals is easy to get by.
The man is probably picking the grass for rabbits, probably on his way from work, just to save some time. This is not present in modern western europe anymore, so it does not even occur to you that such possibility is there. The rabbit meat is kinda dry like chicken breast.

Obviously the arduous march period put some constraints on caloric intake of whole population. But then again North Koreans are not stupid and their line of thinking is leagues ahead of the primitive market magical thinking. Scientific methods of management are a staple there, as at least this is what the Eastern Bloc countries tried to present to themselves internally. That young man is just really skinny and you paint it out to be some malicious intent to starve the population through varying degrees of neglect. Keep in mind that there are Worker-Peasant guards with guns, large portion of population is part of them. Koreans have collectivistic thinking, think how in USA they always hang in groups.

But hey, nobody taught you critical thinking. So no wonder you just parrot talking points produced by funded think tanks.

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this is what Marxist-Leninists actually believe

You're starting to sound pretty anti-revolutionary there comrade.

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I like seeing how NK apologists who a couple of threads ago were sperging out about american imperialism and are now just fine with Un shaking hands and being best buds with american imperialists.

They're just continuing the time-honored communist party tradition of sacrificing their principles and theoretical coherency in favor of supporting the foreign policy interests of revisionist "socialist" states.

American foreign policy no longer adheres to a strategic plan since the old plan is so old and discredited. This is both good and bad, it's good in the sense that Trump doesn't want to have a major Korean war so he's trying the peace option but meanwhile he's trying to get a better deal out of Iran by ripping up the existing Iran Deal.

Yeah, I'd rather not see NK get turned into glass or worse, another SK.

Go to gulag, trot of weeds