UNPOPULAR OPINION THREAD

UNPOPULAR OPINION THREAD
Post all unpopular opinions or opinions that you don't see expressed much in this thread for everyone to see. This is a thread for big brained rational debate where people advertise their items on the free marketplace of ideas^TM.
it is completely rational to do something like doubt the authenticity of an article written for a company full of jews because jews are so outrageously over represented in the capitalist class that assuming that most of them are shills for the establishment isn't stupid.(>jewish capitalists are shills for capitalists not cause they're capitalist but because they're jewish)

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imageboards are shit and breed undesirable behaviours and thinking patterns.
far too many people feel a false sense of commonality with the people they share a board with and are therefore far too receptive to the board's views, norms, etc.

Progressive capitalism is better than reactionary socialism and I will die on this hill.

2)Stalinist (Hoxaists,Maoist…) split mainly cause of extreme dogmatism

3)On the other hand trots split cause of personal ideological differences

(not claiming that any of this is bad)

4)Like other anons said Mao was a great if you care about marxism.

5)Most of trot stereotypes are either uneducated generalizations(not supporting socialist countries) or national phenomenons(newspapers)

7)Despite communism being international the dominant leftist believes change by country to country(russian comrades support Stalin more for example), thats why caring about ideological purity is stupid

I hope you do.

Anarchists are fucking embarrassing and need to grow the fuck up and realize governments are a necessary evil.

Anarchists historically still advocate at least some form of organization. If its a necessary evil that still begs you to minimize it and mitigate the damage as much as possible.

You'd be happy about that if the norms were a socialist hivemind though, wouldnt you? You only say its bad because of Zig Forumss cancer.
for most of their history in the west the political consensus was either milquetoast dem voting liberalism ranging to edgy teen 'anarchism'. Zig Forums was not natural, expected, or in some other way a foregone conclusion because of the medium or its orgins.

A united front of ML's to anarchists are essential to the revolution and if we can't compromise on our praxis then we may as well just kill ourselves because we will lose.
free software is essential to developing the revolution. We would always be put down if we rely on software that the organs of the Bourgeoisie makes. Everything from robotic software to radar control systems to CNC machines to Communication systems needs to be completely detached from all proprietary bourgeoise control.
We should do this via completely abolishing all use of proprietary software and actively develop according to our own needs.
Hoxhaist-Posadism is a legitimate and consistant ideology that is a viable model to revolution, unironically.
Nazbols (the leminov types) and anarchists have nothing to lose for allying with each other.
The superstructure is not reactionary, it is liberal. Especcially now when the liberal ideology have been dominate for 30+ years. so things like anime is reactionary or sex is bs
These silly things like ideologies and sects are all outdated and should be discarded on the left. People have disagreements and that's okay. No need to kill the revolution over it.
Death is a preferable alternative to capitalism, so why arn't we killing ourselfs?
Assad and the over a dozen US military bases in Syria should ally and take over Turkey. Let's face it, the kurds popular support ends at raqqa and that's all that they could hold. The over a dozen US military bases in Syria needs to get rid of the American wing asap.
The general Secretary of the CCP needs to be overthrown by a Stalinist or a Anarchist or a Cybernetic Communist.

China is socialist

wow why am I not surprised

Communism is not a done deal. Workers are either unwilling to rise up because they're relatively well off, unable because they lack food security, or aren't in a position to fully seize globally decentralized supply chains. And that's ignoring class consciousness, which is almost entirely absent.
The left everywhere is so divided and wrecked by mutual animosity, that the only hope I see in a possible communist future is the CPC somehow being serious about it, and cutting China off from the rest of the world.

Instead of human history being a movement towards equality, it has been an increasing movement towards inequality, which is worse today than at any time in history, including the excesses of late pre-revolutionary France or the Roman Empire. Even in the face of third world development and the internationalization of the bourgeoisie.
I know people like Land get a lot of flak whenever they get mentioned here, but as far as his prediction go, I think he's right.
Instead of a lunge towards equality, we'll see the combined efforts of capital monopolization and technological augmentation see the few transcend, (or even superseded) while the rest get left behind.
Like the previous leaps in evolution on this planet, it won't result in every person joining in on this leap, instead I predict mass die-offs as the environment finally collapses under the strain. This century may just end up being as transformative as the emergence of aerobic and eukaryotic life, and all the other milestones since.

You leftists are really running out of time.

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our choices going into the future are primitivism or extinction.
not necesarially full stone age bush living primitivism, im more fond of anti complexity apropriate technology autism, but the techno-industrial market economy will either metastasize into an inhumanly intelligent autonomous thing with AI's and no longer physically or psychologically human cyborgs where we used to be unless we lobotomize it first.

so, this, from a very slightly different angle.

OMG naziposter (fighting nazis maked you look like an optimist)
But you are what i like to call a leftist millennialism
The question is "socialism or barbarism"
The ones that answer socialism are "the followers of the great purge ", the contradictions of capitalism will lead to revolution, communism everywhere, everything that they don’t like will end (that includes people they don’t like)
Then the ones that answer barbarism (like you) humanity will be punished like they deserve
Maybe we could have a new start after that

More or less all of my opinions are unpopular on this board.
As such rather then create an exhaustive list, I shall simply limit myself to the positions that I believe the majority here would find most objectionable:

1) Capitalism has become so utterly entrenched in the culture and psyche of the average person that any suggestion of an alternative system is met with fear, suspicion and even anger; This has rendered any chance of some popular revolt against capitalism an unrealistic fantasy.

2) The proletariat are no longer a class that by and large has any revolutionary potential; Indeed a workers revolt would very quickly be put down in the modern world.

3) Any ideology that seeks to implement a radical ideological change yet looks to the workers of the world rather then to the militaries is hopelessly trapped in the 20th century.
At this late hour, only the very people that extend the authority for a state to govern in the first place have any hope of taking back that authority and investing it behind new system.

4) A state is not just some 'necessary' evil but instead something to be desired.
The stronger and more encompassing the state, the better.

5) Democracy is a fundamentally bad system.
While a limited democracy does go some-way to alleviating the problems of democracy, it is basically just putting lipstick on a pig.
Far better that a nation not suffer under the tyranny of the masses.

6) Socialism does not go far enough in eliminating capitalism, only seeking to eliminate the surface elements rather then actually attempt to address the foundation of scarcity that capitalism is built upon.

7) A strict, formal hierarchy provided by a military style rank system is not only the best way to organise society as a whole.
But the best way to organise any group that wishes to change society.

8) Preventing the suffering of hereditary genetic disease is extremely important.
So important that sterilising those with a high risk of passing on crippling genetic disorders is not only justified, but a moral imperative.

9) Sexuality, gender and other associated tertiary elements of the ego have no place in political discussions or movements.
Provided that the state is equitable on such matters; Discussion of such topics should be limited to 'off duty' hours.

10) For all of its many, many flaws; The USSR was the very last hope of socialism.
I suspect that it will be another generation or two before much of the left truly realises both how stupid they were to oppose it over relatively minor ideological/historical disputes and that with the fall of the USSR so to fell any change of socialism being able to see itself triumphant over capitalism.

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Your love of the military indicates inability of distinguishing patterns
Hierarchy will lead to chaos because chaos is order.
A military style rank system has always leads to anarchy because ranks breed jealously.
Chaos is order
The greatest philosophers strive to understand connections in random events
Any army is as useful as its ability to affect a random outcome
A revolution will have to come through democracy, the idea that the military is in any way stronger than any individual is foolish
Military only works in order to defend from random events
And is incapable to produce a true change in order
There are out there forces no one can control
Especially the military designed to take orders

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nice mysticism bro.
I dont even like howard but the idea that change will have to come from the military is perhaps the only interesting, worthwhile idea in his post.

Positions in the military are useful and change can come from the the inteligencia

Comrade Scott seems educated and i agree with most of his opinions.
But the military will just lead to Bureaucratic collectivism that as he said "it is basically just putting lipstick on a pig" and a pattern of political intrigue will quickly lead to the fall of the
new regime.( Military is just a part of the Intelligentsia)
Exceptions exist of course….
His theory reminds me of Tony Cliffs Deflected Permanent Revolution

How are you not a fascist again

Tito was bad and should've been removed from power.
I don't agree that Venezuela gets to be called a socialist state, or that they've had a revolution.
China is based.
I support the DPRK but Juche is pretty dumb.

I've likely been coming here for longer than most of you. Here are my insights.
Here are the rankings of posters here from best to worst (in terms of quality of average post).

1. Leftcoms
2. Trots
3. Juche
–Large Gap in quality–
4. AnCom
5. ☭TANKIE☭s/Stalin Stache
6. Yugos
7. Anarkiddies other than AnCom
8. SocDems
9. generic red flag

The Zig Forums split was a huge mistake. This board is a shadow of it's former self in terms of quality.

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I'm surprised stache/t*ankies are still so high. They're a lot akin to to the book-posters, sometimes they make really good effortposts but usually its just ideological trash vomit

It's clear you've never actually served in a meaningful fashion in any armed service, or you'd recognize to what degree militarist logics are flawed

The majority of Zig Forums is politically illiterate and unable to sell their ideas to anyone but themselves.

the story of us stache posters is simple
we go out of our way to argue and write textwalls, with quotes and sources
not just one on any given issue but a variety
and we end up receiving the typical meme responses, if anything
there seems to be always one stache guy who's kinda new and has some passion for this place left, but it burns out quickly with the amount of utter faggotry you have to put up with here
so we just start joining in the shitposts

no other flag posters listed by that faggot have ever posted anything of worth and quality
just linking a book and screeching propaganda doesn't cut it

okay I hear I go
1.)Gore>Porn
2.)Degener.ac.y is an actual problem, most rightoids are degens thou
3.)reddit isn't that bad except for politics
4.)I like Xi, even though china is that socialist
5.)jason is a good source of news
6.) rohava is cia
7.) Antifa is FBI
there you go.

1. what does that even mean
2. fun is opposed by brainlets, communists oppose capitalist decay
3. the internet is bad, period
4. what
5. opinion tubers are faggots, no exception.
6. they're just nationalistic tools
7. red-black and black-black flagged sure is
there's some red antifa here and there but i don't know how much they really understand what united front means

1.)gore is better than porn
2.)Don't completely disagree
3.)ye
4.)I meant to say "I like xi even though china isn't that socialist"
5.) why would I watch him for anything other than news
6.)doesn't challenge my poiny
7.) what do you mean by this?

4. fair enough
5. just don't, subscribe to the CPGB-ML and similar channels rather than one man meme shows
6. meaning it's a bit more complicated but generally i can agree
7. there are several branches of "Antifa", and the origin of the Antifaschistische Aktion seems lost even on those using the original emblem, the idea of "united front"

Not really. Even if you took out the lingering reactionary tendencies from Zig Forums, Zig Forums can be infuriating at times because the underlying ways of thinking remain the same. People jump to conclusions too easily when they should be engaging in good faith, and engage in good faith when they should be jumping to conclusions and ignoring.

The ways that in-group preference manifest themselves are tedious even away from Zig Forums. I don't particularly care either way for anime, but it's of some useful indicative value that even people who don't watch it will often unthinkingly look at it as a positive signifier because "it's part of imageboard culture". The same goes for the continued assumption that imageboards are far less mainstream than they really are. Now even if you got rid of all these quirks of historical circumstance, you'd get the same general behaviour patterns because it's a function of how the board works. Normal forums breed circlejerks as groups of people recognise and come to like one another, imageboards build circlejerks around shibboleths, imagined consensus and contrarianism. At least with normal forums, you might find yourself on the right-side of a circlejerk every once in a while. Once you know the trick, being on the top of an imageboard dogpile is no more satisfying than being on the bottom.

I blame the accursed classcucked right wing proletarians. Exterminate their ilk and isolate what genetic combinations make it so those abominations come to life and you're free from that nightmare.

1. Pro immigration leftists (as in those who support the system of immigration, not necessarily the rights of immigrants) are shills for neoliberals. Im lookin at you anarchists in particular.

2. idpol in counter-intuitive and divides the working class (not unpopular here, but unpopular among the leftist community in general)

3. The 1960s and the philosophical movement that came out of the era are responsible for the rise of idpol.

4. Foucoult, Beauvoir, Sartre and all of the 60s-70s French intellectuals are trash and should their books thrown in the trash. They were also pedophiles.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws

Most of these aren't unpopular. Even people who like the non-pomo French left will rarely hold them to a higher regard than other figures.

daily reminder that unpopular opinion is just codeword for reddit

All baboons must live in zoos.

t. Has never read a french intellectual from the 60's

Dogmatism and refusal to leave the past in the past is the biggest issue with leftism today.

Social democracy is all we can feasibly have right now.

Anarchism and left communism are impossible nonsense.

The Palestinians will never win against Israel. Their best chance is to integrate into the Israeli working class and fight to change Israeli society from the inside, rather than attempting to destroy it from the outside.

Internal contradictions are more important than external ones, you can't impose any system from the outside.

Moral critiques of capitalism are more important than "scientific" ones.

Third Worldism will ultimately descend into fascism.

Siding with liberals is better than siding with crypto-fascists, even out of "national liberation."

There is literally no point in being anything but a social democrat today.

Pick one.

Again, pick one.

Literally no one has ever cared about whether capitalism is moral or not, hence the entire science of Marxism

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There is a difference between social democracy with an ulterior motive and social democracy with no ulterior motive. Coffee without cream, etc.

How do you jump directly from capitalism to communism? You need socdem as a prerequisite. In fact you can't have anything but socdem given the existing conditions. This is why the USSR couldn't just implement communism.

I have a fucking ton in respect to this board/leftpol and the wider left on twitter/reddit/meatspace, but I'll just list few
1.Incels aren't a inherently reactionary other the left should try to have dialog with them since a lot of their issues are caused by capitalism. It really fucking disgusts me that the left is really eager to throw these people or any male proles who don't conform to social norms under the bus, especially since they are among the most impoverished proles in the first world save for Appalachia, black ghettos, and working class communities in the midwest/rust belt.
2.Ted K was fucking right about leftists being oversocialized faggots
3.There is a lot communists could learn from Temple Ov Blood/o9a related books as well as SIEGE, they shouldn't dismissed offhand due to association with reaction
4.Jim Profit was pretty much right about almost everything and everyone on Zig Forums and Zig Forums should watch his videos, as they are essential to a communist on imageboards
5.Moralizing against NEETs is inherently reactionary
6.Using the term "entitlement" unironically as a negative is fucking liberal as it gets and only serves to prop up the capitalist system ideologically

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why did the jews think of this

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What do you mean?

I want Dua Lipa to make an album entirely composed of Albanian communist songs and songs from the Hoxha Era.

Idpol is a dead end on its own terms. Someone who is not part of [marginalized group] has nothing to gain from improvements in their station as such, and therefore the groups can't count on or frankly expect their support. Call me an egoist, but pure altruism doesn't move me.

Such is the curse of being social animals. It happens in any social group, few people arrive at political or any other tastes through any kind of reason.

Nothing wrong with being a rational human being.

Idpol leftists will admit that oppression and exploitation can't end under capitalism, yet they'll insist fighting for idpol causes is somehow revolutionary.

stashe posters aren't particularly good, there are just other posters worse than them

feel free to.

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Socialism is the logical development of liberalism in the face of capitalism's failure to uphold the political and moral ideals of the enlightenment. Those goals should be maintained by modern socialists, and socialism should be seen as a means to achieving them. Also liberal democracy, while flawed, has also produced great progress for the human race in terms of individual political and personal freedoms/rights, and a socialist society must make maintaining these rights a long term priority, even if they must be suspended in the short term.

Nationalism is a useful tool that can and should be co-opted for the socialist cause without degenerating into Nazbol or Asserism, ESPECIALLY in America.

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How are incels impoverished? Seems to me like you could only be a NEET if your family was some kind of bourg.

dis

.t no idea what liberalism is
Liberalism is exactly the current mode of capitalism. What you want to say is:
Which would be 100% correct. Marx and early socialists were all fan of the enlightenment but saw that liberalism did not achieve what it promised (namely the enlightenment values).

Liberalism could refer to the political ideology of capitalism sure, but in this case I'm referring to the philosophy of liberalism, and particularly its ideals and ethics. But either way this is just squabbling over terminology, and it sounds like we're on the same page. Unfortunately many leftists seem all to content to discard the values that inspired the bourgeois revolutions of the 18th and 19th centuries, when in my view those ideals are the entire purpose of socialism. Forget 1917, we haven't even realized the dreams of 1789!

It depends. Nothing is good or bad in absolutes, nothing is better or worse without taking into account the circumstances. Everything has to be related the context that created it. Rich countries that got and stayed wealthy by exploitation of poorer countries can afford a nice liberal, progressive, welfare capitalism that by definition can't be universal. Poor countries that have reactionary elites that are tied to these global economic patterns may need dictatorship, autocracy and violence to leave and seek a better path. Obviously we'd all rather live in the first one, but the latter is product of the former, so you can't say X is better than Y when X being X creates the conditions for Y.

This one always gets me. ⛏️rotsky spent the early 30s opposing calls for a Left-Right alliance against Stalin (which he labeled Thermidorian, because a similar alliance ousted the Jacobins), saying that Socialists must love and defend the proletarian state with "its famines and everything", and defending Soviet aggression in Finland and China. People acting like he was some type of anti-Soviet dissident is ridiculous.

MLs with no critiques of actually existing socialism are less than useless, doubly so if they're pro China post-Mao.

Proudhon pls go

The EU must unironically be destroyed, including Schengen
Refugee policy should be reoriented toward resettlement if the conflict ends within a few years
Three-state solution (Israel, Palestine, Jerusalem)
Many native american activists are literal ethnonationalists and progressives who ally with them are the biggest fucking dupes
There are two genders and a small handful of outliers
The gender-affirming approach to people who think they're trans will almost certainly be viewed in the future as a major episode of medical malpractice borne from a moral panic
If you aren't concealing your powerlevel in public about your socialist/communist beliefs you don't give a shit
Labour camps for violent convicts are good as hell; the family of a murdered son or daughter should take comfort in knowing that the murderer will spend the rest of his/her life busting up rocks in the siberian cold
Knee-jerk hatred of soldiers and veterans is counterproductive and anti-worker
Prostitution is by its definition exploitative
The core of society shouldn't be the nuclear family but the extended family
Video games that require you to login to a central server should be illegal
Adam is the most problematic member of cum town
Chinese and Russian imperialism is real and driven by capitalism

there's more but I can't think of them

also this

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Jesus reading this even I'm kinda disgusted with how actually reactionary I am

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Could you explain how their problems are caused by capitalism in clear terms? I'm not disagreeing, but I'd like to see an explanation.

I care more about the proletarian struggle than my personal struggle with gender, and most other trans comrades I know of would agree with that…

Anarchopac is a second rate Contrapoints knockoff and Roo did nothing wrong.

cockshott is the only interesting development in leftism in the last 100 years

The left nowadays is too indulgent towards religions (including the 'oppressed' ones like Islam).

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They are not reactionary per se, but they clearly suffer from mental issues. Their problem isn't that they can't get laid, it's that they are emotionally stunted and lack a sense of self-worth.
I agree about NEETs and entitlement, though.

here is my unpopular opinion

The simple fact of the matter is that the fewer states there are, the easier it is to establish an ideological hegemony across the world; Something that is just as true for neo-liberalism as it is for any ideology.
The fewer states one has to deal with the better.

I disagree.
Fundamentally people are the single most valuable resource there is, and I do not mean that in some sappy emotional or sentimental way.
Turning away people that desire to live in your nation is little different from turning away cargo ships full of free gold ore or uncut diamonds simply because you do not wish to make the effort to refine them into something useful.

A far better policy would be that of forcibly assimilating them.
Send the children to be raised in some specialist state institution or by foster parents.
Have the adults be sorted into holding/educational facilities until they can demonstrate an acceptable level of assimilation (being able to speak the nations language to an acceptable degree, renouncing Islam etc) into the desired culture.
Then you simply have them serve X number of years of state service (military service, civil construction detail etc) before giving them a citizenship and letting them settle were they desire (due to having X number of years of accrued wages), rather then having them crowed into poor areas and form ghettos.

Those that object to this can simply be sent back or to some other nation that will suffer them.

I'm not going to give my opinion on this, as this is a topic that I have found can very quickly get you banned should you fail to tow whatever the party line is today on the issue.
However I will say that a two or three state solution would only prolong much of the suffering of the Palestinian people.
Any solution to this problem has to put the long term interests of the Palestinian people ahead of any short term suffering.

This is true of any ethnic liberation group, be they aboriginal liberations or black liberationists.
Fundamentally they are all about racial id-pol and as such only give a damn about other races or ideologies to the degree that they find them useful; Black nationalists attaching themselves to Marxism and preying upon white guilt for example.

All forms of racial id-pol is equally disgusting.

While I agree that there is indeed only two genders, I strongly disagree that there is even a single genuine 'outlier'.
The thousands of silly made-up genders pushed by SJWs are all universally rubbish that people would only describe themselves as if they desire attention and want to feel special or are generally mentally ill and easily exploited by ideologues.
Quite frankly it harms the position of actual transgender people.

I fully agree.
While I do fully support trans people being able to easily access the services they require.
All such things from HRT to surgery should be securely locked behind a gate keeping service.
Treating all people that feel or believe that they feel gender diaspora as automatically transgendered harms people that may simply be confused or mentally ill.

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I agree, however I would extend this to most offences.
I can promise you that some street tough will never rob a home or a witness consider perjuring should they know that they face several years of hard labour in purposefully hellish conditions should they do so.

What are you talking about?
I do hope that you are not so counter revolutionary as to think that wine swilling academics, unfit NEETs and activists in their late 60s would not be enough to stage and then defend the gains of a revolution.
All soldiers are automatically super evil baby killers that kick puppies with every step they take and all universally love porkies dick; Did you not know this comrade?

Prostitution is a service sector job like any other.
The main thing that separates it from any service sector job is that it involves sex; Something I could only imagine abrahamic moralisers objecting to.

I think the core of society should be the state itself.
However multi-generation families did serve us well for so long that I think it is something to be encouraged.

Reactionary by anarcho-kiddy standards, sure.
However much of your positions are quite sensible; I give them a solid 7.5/10.

1. Most Americans in general have reactionary views, I have no reason to believe that "nerds" or "gamers" or whatever are special in that regard.
2. Other hobbies (such as sports) also have large reactionary elements in their fanbases but, while I see sentiments like "gamers are scum" all the time I hardly ever see similar comments about sports fans in general.
3. Every christcom poster is much more reactionary than the average gamer.

This, look at shit like the NFL

1) The SJWs and Tumblr are/were right.

2) Woozle wozzle.

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3) Also Anita Sarkeesian had a lot of good points about stuff and the criticism was all out of proportion to what she was actually saying.

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What a wonderful Zig Forums tier post.
Who needs persuasive argumentation and informed refutation when one can just scream "lol, hot take".

I think her criticism is inherently shit, but the sole reason she's even famous is because of turbospergs going out of her way to get butthurt about her videos. Otherwise she's still be relatively obscure.

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i agree with what you said but that means your opinion isn't that popular now is it

Nah, just a thot with nothing to say and a tenuous grasp of critical theory who waddled into a field hitherto unexplored just so she could be the first one to make all the vanilla criticisms of the genre. Good career strategy, but no good points.

preach my nigga

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China is the last bet in the event of a collapse of the western led world economy, beyond that, a century of civil wars and countless bodies

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It's easy to be a nihilist in a air conditioned house with HD porn

Celery is fucking nasty I might as well go the fuck outside and take a bite out of the ground

Anorexia is better than obesity

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you mustached motherfucker what have you done with yukari

hot take before this: the article about identifying as a nerd just being a 1980s reactionary way of portraying a white male protagonist from a well-off family as oppressed was basically a good one, even if people will decry it as idpol.
i mean, you want a fun fact? games consoles did terribly in the UK until the late 1980s because they were fucking expensive. people used home computers because you could get games for £2.50 on tape instead of £40 on cartridge, and on top of that you could just buy blank tapes and copy them, again because even our well-off middle class families didn't have the money to throw around until quite late in the decade. British children growing up believing there was a videogame crash in 1983 or that the NES dominated the 1980s in Britain is nothing short of cultural imperialism tbqh.
yet people have got into their heads this idea that gaming was an unpopular nerd hobby that would get you bullied as though it was innate to the consumption choice itself. you know the only gaming-relating bullying i ever saw? poor kids being bullied for having out of date hardware. That's not being bullied for being a "gamer", that's being bullied for the very opposite: for not engaging in senseless consumerism.

If you identify as a "nerd" you should be hated, regardless of whether you rationally fit into the category or not. You don't have to identify within it, and most people who do are insufferable. It's not a "real" meaningful category. The census doesn't ask "are you a nerd or a jock?" and it's rarely a category of self-loathing, instead being "oh yeah, you could beat me at sports but i'm smarter than you :🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧)"

I (and I'd wager most people who spend too much time on 4chan, Zig Forums, twitter, reddit, amino, whatever) rarely cross paths with people talking about how they're sports fans. We therefore have no reason to be bothered by them, and in my memory the "jock" demographic never bullied anyone in school. (tbh this just seems to be a purely American myth.) Further to that"sports fan" seems as broad as "gamer", I've known some people I'd call weeaboo nerd weirdos who're also big football or rugby fans. The line between the jock and nerd stereotype is pretty much nonsense.
I do however spend an unreasonable amount of time on the internet and know an unreasonable amount of videogame trivia. some argue that would might me a nerd by their criteria. Some would further, on those two data-points, believe themselves similar to me and believe we should like each other or feel some solidarity on that basis. I argue that many of those people need to go legs first into a woodchipper for being completely insufferable and for jumping to such a conclusion so quickly. can you tell i once errantly assumed commonality of consumption choices also meant potential for meaningful social relations?
You can play games all day without considering yourself a gamer. Building your identity around consumption choices is an inherently reactionary tendency. actually a nice take I got from someone was that identity itself is inherently reactionary.

also as a general rule first world self-identified nerds are in the above-average segment of the income distribution, and for that reason alone should be made to suffer.

Even if racists are right, they should still be shot.

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Only normalfag redditors who were into shit like Doctor Who and very mainstream western fantasy/sci fi vidya ever actually did. Which aren't really the people over socialized leftiods are referring to when they unironically bitch about nerds/weeaboos/gaymers

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good post, the nerd 'self-identity' is almost always a cover or an incubator for entirely unfounded arrogance, callousness and reactionary elitist politics.

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If anything I'd be willing to bet that the leftoids today who unironically see "nerds" as the evil reactionary other were doing the reddit tier "I'm such nerd XD" thing back in the late 2000s and early 2010s

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left leg first or right?

even if they don't do so publicly in the same fashion ("i'm such a nerd lol!"), imageboard users in general have a more subconscious identification with the term. i say "all nerds should be fed into a woodchipper" and somewhere they think "he's talking about me, he's talking about my kind of person!" (ironically if they think that, they're right. how zizekian.)
this is even more true for "gamers", and has an interesting side case for weebs. some people who don't watch anime nonetheless feel attacked when you say nasty things about weebs, because they feel weebism is part of imageboard culture and therefore they should defend it. freak nationalism.

what matters for identity is not what you say you are, but what you think you are. impure thoughts precede all crime.

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Roo is a fat uneducated retard. But a honest anticapitalist
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