Transracialism is now ok

Idpol - the highest stage of capitalism.

The Left is now defending "transracial" identity. Yep.

It's apparently OK to be a white person who "identifies" as black. But not just any white person - Rachel "NAACP" Dolezal, a virtual fucking meme. She became famous in 2015 when she was outed as a white person pretending to be black. She was the leader of her local NAACP branch as well as an served in a capacity as instructor in some kind of Black Studies program. (She claimed to be a professor.)

WSWS has just published an article promoting a documentary about her and defending her insanity.

Furthermore, the related notions that one cannot “identify” with a race or ethnicity apart from one’s own and that the categories “whiteness” and “blackness” might as well exist on different planets are profoundly reactionary.

Read it here:
wsws.org/en/articles/2018/06/15/rach-j15.html

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my sociology professor defended this shit, because she herself was 1/4 black and probably got called out on not being black enough by blacker sheboons, so of course she'd defend it. this is great, it's basically a modern iteration of the one drop rule. keeps our blood pure.

you will never be white jamal

i just don't understand - how can this shit be anything but COINTELPRO?

WSWS attacks organized labor for being sellouts - ok probably true in many cases, but defending a "transracial" woman for pretending to be black? ffs.

Race is a spook, this is a step in the right direction, just as making 70 genders was a step towards the abolition of gender.

race is demonstrably biological, and intellect correlates with it even when you radically change the environment
it makes no sense for ice age and tropical climate to select for same mutations


we are gonna divide by genetically modified/unmodified and/or brain implanted or not implanted any moment now

technology will make biological race obsolete and only thing 1488 is going to have left is "spiritual race" utter bullshit
and also the tech will prolly be better at emulating the aesthetic much better than the mutts we have around today anyway

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Can't we all be preracialists again?

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WSWS like usual are ahead of their time.


100% this. Race should be deconstructed just like gender.

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Creating a fuckton of genders and giving each one equal legitimacy as "male" and "female" deconstructs the gender binary. This is a step forward to ending gender oppression and abolishing gender.

Hot take.

The Rachel Dolezal thing is deeply mired in idpol any way you look at it. Can't forget that shortly before this, she spent her time writing smug racialized "thinkpiece" trash. You don't even have to be black to have a position like that in the NAACP, her whole outlook was fucking ridiculous.

Spamming genders is a great way to make gender less relevant. It's just too bad that gender is mostly a sexuality thing and a lot of genderposting ultimately comes from thirst / sexual frustration. If all the genderposters just got fucking laid we'd see less soliciting posing as as radicalism

I agree. Sex is the only concept that's relevant, and you're either male or female. Your genes don't like. Gender is a grammatical term.

Gtfo terf

That's not deconstruction, it's reinforcement.

Sex and gender are different. You are not a female no matter how many dresses you wear. Sorry if this offends you.

Isnt it ALSO idpol adn teactionary to be mad about it? Shes just one woman.

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Who lied to get into a position of power in an organisation to help black people. I believe that's called being an opportunist asshole committing fraud.

You're right, she's not a female, she's a woman.

The whole point is that biology of sex doesn't play a dominant role in society, gender, as in the social construction, does however.
You can't reduce gender into just being about sex because you end up just with a useless distinction which doesn't do much to help explain how society functions.
Gender being separate from sex is the only way we can model how exactly gender and/or sex operate.

Don't be dishonest. There are so many dumb frauds in the world. Why get outraged over this one?

things that actually happened

it makes no sense for ice age and tropical climate to select for same mutations
lol

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History will absolve her

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Actually, we'll go a lot further than that. Since we can conceive of abstracting ourselves away from sex (and there is work being done towards forming artificial wombs), why stop at abolishing gender?

The whole matter of gender is that it is the social aufheben/sublation of sex - biological reproduction becomes socially-managed and the concept of gender came from the ideas which are used to describe divisions of labour relating to that biological reproduction. This isn't just related to sex, fertilisation and birth but also the development of children and their inclusion into the social world. However, because gender concerns roles more than anything else (despite 'natural predispositions' and all that shit), it's no longer tied to biological sex as such. It seems absurd given what we're used to, but we can imagine tools which allow fathers to emulate breastfeeding, for example (a bib with milk dispensers!). Gender also manifests itself in other behaviours which are all related to social structures and divisions within these structures.

As for the transsexual - who, by definition, wishes to change their sex - their move is a step forward from the alleged determinism of sex. It constitutes body modification, which can be very powerful indeed for humans (as the ultra-bourgeois will be sure to demonstrate within the coming decades). The issue - for BOTH the truscum and tucute positions - is that they posit that gender identities are innate (the former argues that they can be found in the brain and biology while the latter disagrees with this but argues that they are still innate as identities) - when clearly, one can chop and change as much as they wish without destroying the 'continuity' of their subjecthood. The only thing which stops them as such is the situation at hand: we don't have the technology to allow for this sort of thing so much. That's the only meaningful barrier as far as changing one's sex is concerned.

It is not that we'll become whatever gender we want and assume whatever sex that we want in the sense that these wants will be 'disorderly' and lead to mass orgies and whatnot - that is the perverted fantasy of the reactionary mind, that which screams that without these restrictions, we will indeed descend into these orgies. Instead, it is that sex and gender will no longer be 'things of nature' but will become political. The entire contexts of both will become political just as any related act will. We will have to consider what use both have at all to our society, and we may find a sort of sublation of both.

…and the same will be true of 'racial' phenotypes and any other biological factor. We can imagine that it's possible to alter it, and we are developing technologies which will help us to real-ise this. Take, for example, the transhumanist solution to the 'racial problem' which Zig Forumsyps seem to ignore quite a bit of the time.

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I explained why I disliked her and that is because she committed fraud. Fraudsters should be put up against the wall the same as the bourgeoisie, after all they're both guilty of exploiting the worker. You could just as easily flip it to "why are you so angry about starbucks, it's only one exploitative company"

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creating 70 genders does not make gender less relevant. if anything, it has proven to make the entire issue more visible and more disruptive of public discourse. people like cockshott are now having their talks cancelled for having said something offensive to trans people.


look at all the support dolezal is getting here. a few years ago it would have been a joke.

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The problem is that the genders are taken as inherent, when meaningfully, they constitute the social sphere are thus able to be known and overcome or raised to a higher level.

Underrated

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more likely mexicans just vote full reactionary (like they did with Franco, PRI and Duerte in the first place) and America becomes a 14/88 white hispanic paradise

Maybe ten years ago but Dolezal is just the logical extension for mainstream liberal activism now. Fact is she tried doing something hispanics already do and get away with - claiming to be nonwhite when they are clearly white. Antonio Villiagosa is the most prominent example of this as his real name is Tony Villar, as his hispanic parents used Italian names to skirt racial discrimination. Despite he himself being white, gentrified and bourgeoisie he's able to successful label himself as a nonwhite based on his name alone.

It's a uniquely American thing I think, kind of like gender-fluidity in Europe. For example here in America Minority Owned Businesses can get government contracts over white businesses, because of Affirmative Action. As a result white bourgeoisie have a reason to list themselves as nonwhite or "other" so they aren't discriminated against. This is extremely common with hispanics and italians, while arab and indian businessowners largely get fucked because despite being culturally different they are both classified as white. Likewise hispanics who are stupid enough to put themselves as "white hispanic" do not get any help either, which is what causes them to engage with Zig Forums tier reactionaryism especially when most of the new illegal immigrants are central americans.

The same happens on college applications, but asians are also discriminated against there. The only way to get into a top university is to have some sort of "struggle" anyway, or just networking through daddy's fraternity. This is where AA becomes really corrosive because it serves as a gatekeeper into expensive schools, since college isn't free anymore it has the ability to fuck over students who don't lie on their application forms.

since when are ARABS and INDIANS classified as white?

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This is a really backwards way of thinking. A few more years ago trans people would be viewed as a joke. A few years before that homophobia would be totally acceptable. The left progresses on issues, then society follows.

Why don't you actually read the article you blithering idiot?


No they don't you fucking liar.


WSWS has pretty much weekly articles talking about the bourgeois bullshit of racial politics and racial identity. WSWS is supportive in its article because it explodes the narrative fiction of liberal racial politics, not because it supports her as a "trans black," you fucking dipshit.


Yes despite actual biologists again and again dismissing race as a scientifically meaningless term and every single piece of actual scientific literature proving you wrong it somehow miraculously proves your dipshit racialist nonsense correct.

You're worthless.

In America because Jesus was an Arab and Jesus was white therefore all Arabs were white. Also America's first contact with Arabs was when Morocco became the first country to recognize our Independence. Meanwhile, Indians (dot) were English subject and therefore were rich elitists Tories. That was the original justification and it persists due to habit and a general unwillingness to change; the proposal to make Arab into it's own nonwhite racial category only began in 2015 under Obama but people have walked away from it due to discrimination concerns.

pic related is the classic example of what Americans think of an Indian (dot) and Arabs, both are white and clearly European

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Also keep in mind that in general all Hispanics were considered nonwhite unless they were Protestant converts, rich Aristocrats (particularly relevant in the South where they have a shared culture with their white gentry) or landlords (in California specifically). As a result they usually weren't let into white stores unless they used the back door and weren't allowed to buy into white neighborhoods unless they paid a special fee (same for getting into white public schools or hospitals, which served to justify the expansion of private catholic schools and clinics even as public schools and hospitals got better).

This is done because most Americans' interactions with Spanish people are of the illiterate, homeless, underage grape-picker variety.

If this is proven to be effective then could we break up the right wing racialists by deconstructing it into ever small tiny sections of race, thereby dividing their racialist movement into competing ineeffective factions?

No because the right wing doesn't believe in rationality, see and as evidence. From the start they've already decided to live in a non-truth, irrational dogma that only serves to justify their own cultural spooks.

That said it'd be effective in wrecking racialists in the mainstream left where people take rationality seriously, but this also runs the risk of them going full retard and requiring people to submit 23andme genetic tests so they know where to place them on the privilege hierarchy. But even in this case they'd still be drawing from rightwing paradigms intrinsically built into the law and data sets (for example the US Census not having an option for "Arab") and would likely only be used to perpetuate existing rightwing stereotypes (eg all Indians (dot) are rich people and all Hispanics are poor and stupid).

At the very most this would serve to hinder the effectiveness of mainstream left movements, but in a way where rightwing reactionaries would have the most to gain from white/indian/arab leftists alienated by institutionalized privileged hierarchies, which of course would still be run by straight white males claiming to be gay mexicans.

From the article:
The documentary is moving and deserves a viewership.

From the article:
Furthermore, the related notions that one cannot “identify” with a race or ethnicity apart from one’s own and that the categories “whiteness” and “blackness” might as well exist on different planets are profoundly reactionary.

You can see in the above:
1. The article promotes the documentary about her
2. The article supports the idea the concept of transracialism.

Just because something is new doesn't make it progress.

The fact that this even has to be pointed out indicates the drop in cultural levels and the colonization of the left (and even Marxist groups) by pathological ideologies, bad postmodern philosophy, and identity-politics.

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Morocco was the first to recognize the united States because they wanted to raid american ships who would no longer been under the protection of the British flag. The first war after the revolutionary war was against Moroccan pirates.

the author is one particular mongoloid that mostly writes about pomo race issues

Rachel Dolezal is what true egoism looks like.

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then people go "actually you know what, who actually cares about gender" and poof it's gone.

yes but it allowed the Morrcan government to claim it wasn't state sponsored which our young courts bought

did I also mention they sold slaves to us as well? They didn't bite their customer :o)

One article doesn't mean the entire left. I think this is dumb, most leftists think she's dumb.

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They're only saying that black and white identities are cultural affiliations that anyone can choose to identity as or not (and be identified as or not), and that they aren't inherent to anyone. This is no different from what many other Marxist groups against identity politics would say. They're not saying that one should become "transracial" or supporting a "transblack" identity per se.

You forgot the part "and defending her insanity", which is probably what user was reacting to. You haven't even addressed his point, you just cherry-picked quotes to make him appear blatantly wrong, which is kinda what you did in the OP, too. For example:

"Transracialism" is actually fucking brilliant and an incredibly important step towards abolishing racialism entirely.

Iranians are not Arabs though.

Identity is a spook. It's transient and not actually fixed.

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'The left' is not defending this. A person here or there? Sure…But for most people this is Jerry Springer.

Dolezal does have black children ,and it seems like she uses them to further her delusion. I feel bad for them.I think she's also in big trouble for possible welfare fraud.

She might have an argument if she grew up around black people, or was raised by a black family. I will even throw a bone and say that you could have body dysmorphia where you felt you looked more black than you are, or wish that your body was more black.

I hope we just leave this in the dust. If she wants to be black, whatever. She did actually help the black community where she lived, so she didn't do all bad.

What is up with people thinking gender= personality? I guess in the same way intelligence=personality….

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