Czechoslovakia

What can you tell me about socialist czechoslovakia?
Photos, stories, articles ecc. please.
Even Ismail doesn't have material on it

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If Ismail doesn't know then what you're asking for doesn't exist.

What exactly do you want to know?

Best socialist country ever, but most western leftists prefer praising DDR because it was much more socially liberal.ok, ok they were on pair economically Quality of life was so good that it's not uncommon to hear even current petty bourgs praising it, and most people which experienced living there limit their critique to low personal liberties. Well, maybe except for that one old guy I met once, which enlightened me on starvation here, to cite him:
Most people say it was "very strange" time, mostly because stuff like getting an apartment or car was easier than getting jeans or deodorant. I plan on flooding Zig Forums with some dank clips from old movies, but I couldn't manage to get enough free time to do that.

Also both "communist" and "the man who own private property" is seen and used as insult, people's cognitive dissonance is strong here.

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Everything. Videos, photos, stories, memes, anecdotes and how is percived today. I went to czech republic and I loved it. It was fun, people were nice… But then I met slovakians in there (i was in brno so like 1 hour from bratislava) and I think slovakians were the friendliest people I ever met, so I promised myself to go and live there in slovakia.
Also there is so little stories about it. People never talk about it and socialism seems despised by everyone (at least on the internet).
May I start asking what made it the best? Also are you from czech republic or slovakia?

I'm at work, and my old laptop is kill so I won't be able to pull anything for you. There are lots of movies on hooktube, but you wouldn't understand anything.
Hard to think of anything non-personal atm
There are none, or at least I missed them somehow
Wide range from "paradise on earth" to "literally gulag", especially in younger generation due to strong liberal propaganda. I remember that when I was in school, we used TVs to watch videos in classes only rarely, but once we had to watch document which explained us horrors of holodomor and how Stalin starved to death poor, kind ukrainians just because he was afraid that they would revolt against him otherwise. I was born after collapse
As I said, cognitive dissonance is very strong with people here. You can hear person one one day speaking how brutal and inhuman socialist regime was, and other day telling how he is happy that his relative is living as in socialism for having stable, well paid job without too much stress.
I was exaggerating, but it was among socialist countries with biggest quality of life. To sum up, it was mostly because of full employment with very good buying power and almost non-existent economic stress. "being in financial crisis" meant situation like you can't buy newest car and move to bigger apartment, not literal existential crisis.
Does it matter?

If you ask any more specific questions, I'll try to answer them tomorrow.

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kek, this is the same sort of 'starvation' and 'breadlines' that people who moan about Poland during the people's republic always mean. You could only get bananas and oranges during a certain time of year because the Eastern Bloc didn't have a bunch of equatorial colonies to exploit like western companies did and therefore it was literally hellish despotism.
Now we manage to have both mass emigration and 10% unemployment while everything decays and the americucked government swerves from telling to eu to fuck off and begging for eurobucks investments. But at least you can get your fill of papaya year round :D

Why eastern euros always complain about everything? I

I'd just like to see what it looked like
Not really, but I remeber a guy from slovakia months ago posting about his gramps being a gambler with fake identities and shit like that with a comfy job thanks to socialism and that he praised engels, stalin, lenin and marx often. I thought it was a funny and interesting story.
Post whatever you want as long as it's related to czechoslovakia.

My questions would be

Thanks in advance

Bump, deliver when you can pls famalam

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they made cool guns (sometimes even better than contemporary ussr firearms)

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Posting some economic info:

The best examples of different parts of the Eastern Bloc are in Czechoslovakia and Russia. There were queues in Czechoslovakia, but not for bread. There were queues for some kinds of fruit, better quality meat, Vegeta (a spicy salty Yugoslav mixture used for flavoring food) Vegeta (condiment) - Wikipedia etc. but not bread lines, not after the 1952 when Rationing was ended. All basic foodstuffs were readily available in the shops and things that were queues for were (with some exceptions) not rationed, meaning that even if there was a queue, you were able to buy any amount you want. there were nearly no queues for basic goods in Czechoslovakia, plus people frequently had their lunch at school or work, and those were typically very caloric dishes, with a lot of butter, dumplings etc

The problem to get in Czechoslovakia under socialism was tropical fruit, like bananas, mandarines and oranges, due to trade problems with the capitalist world, (since most of those were grown in said capitalist countries)

in Czechoslovakia 2000Kcs = 400$ because of the skewed exchange rate - the prices in Czechoslovakia were subsidized, the prices in Yugoslavia were not, resulting in differences, in communist countries that subsidized or otherwise supported their currency, the worth rivaled that of the dollar (the Ruble comes to mind).

So even going with the Czechoslovakian example, the average worker in CSSR earned between 1500-2500 Kcs a month. Things, for example groceries, cost around 1-10 Kcs per item. The average shopping bill was around 50 Kcs. meaning that even Czechoslovakia's demoted currency could provide for all that was wanted inside its borders for very little money.

If you want people discussing their lives I suggest going to soviet-empire.com/ussr/

My closest friend since childhood is half slovak. IIRC his grandma had to go through a quite tedious process in order to get permission to go on vacation abroad, and when she got it she defected to Sweden with her son (my friends father). If anyone's interested I could ask him to post whatever he knows about his relatives' experience of socialist Czechoslovakia in this thread.

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Ouch dude, I'm sorry. :(

huh?

Don't forget about "hurr you could not travel to the west in socialism" while ignoring the fact that nowadays fuckton of people have to travel aboard in order to get enough money for decent life.

kek, I somehow missed him.
Living in police state is not fun, people need some basic civil liberties in order to be content.
Immediately after embracing capitalism? /liberty/ masturbation fantasy. Despite the fact that it was over regulated so much it would make average r/socialism poster's head spin (to give an example - if central bank was lending money at 10%, and you managed to get loan at 6%, the difference - 4% - were seen as your profit and you had to pay taxes for it), you could start business with almost anything and it would most likely work. This "american dream" lasted for a few years, people loved it, it was unironically great time. But then market got filled, amount of bourgerious increased, capital required to start a business exponentially rose and so on and on, and we are where we are.
See tank's post
I don't know of any significant differences of such perks, but wages were higher (especially if you compare factory workers with factory workers today working non-unionized/in corrupted union). One thing I can mention is that many jobs were run in extremely inefficient way, and if you were lucky you could get a position where you officially had to spend all day but you could finish your work in a hour and two and leave.
Well, I must mention that Czechia nor Slovakia (and probably not any other former socialist country) got fucked over as much as east germany, they went trough hell. When you look at economic figures, you can see that czechia have bigger GDP per capita, with is because lot's of factories got moved from Slovakia to either czechia or, if I'm not mistaken, to russia. Today Slovakia have much higher productivity than czechia so it should supass them in GDP per capita in some time, that hovewer doesn't reflect on quality of life in any way. FUN FACT: Czechia, Slovakia and Poland have much higher productivity than Germany, but workers get only fraction of German's wage
Yes, of course.
Yes.
Well, short after nazis were kicked out, Czechoslovak republic was formed and communist party won, led by Gottwald. He is known for so called "monster-processes", where he imprisoned bunch of bourgs, tortured them until they learned what exactly should they say in staged court ("since I was born my father, factory owner, was teaching me to hate workers…",…), which was then transmitted by radios to whole republic. It was tremendous success and the party could coup government and create Czechoslovak Socialist Republic. After that however, such curel sentencing was abolished and people were put on "reeducation", where you had to learn fuckton of theory, but you could also play sports and learn some musical instrument. Not comfy (imagine being in prison while BO is taking care of you know enough theory), but more like current scandinavian system than current private american gulags.

It's funny how some convicts ended up. After illegal USSR invasion of ČSSR many Dubček's followers were purged out of party, and the party got filled even with people formerly imprisoned for collaborating with fascists.
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I personally can't think of anything good about him, and many people feel the same. If I could return back in time as influential party member, I would work him to death in uranium mine, but most people have much more mixed feelings about him.
I don't think so. And I don't think there is big difference.
Beloved politician. Pulling "dubchek card" while debating with some anti-communist make them get quiet. I personally think he was one of the biggest czechoslovaks and great statesman, and if I could make a bet, I think that vanguard of next revolution will name itself after him.
Our media are not mentioning what our soldiers are doing abroad, and when they are they mention only the most "safe" missions so very little people realize how many people our soldiers killed.
Same as russia. Some people irrationaly love it, some people irrationally hate it. Hard to say.

relax, I'm spending unhealthy amount of time on Zig Forums, but I'm shitposting from work and I have shit to do,

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wut

My dad went to Czechia to play rugby once, he said the thing the opposition wanted off his team was to read the magazines they brought with them to read and shit. Apart from that, things were pretty alright.

first line applies to Havel, second to Dubček. What confused you?

oh, I see, I splitted text in confusing way.

Can any Chezch comrade explain how bad/good the KSČM is?

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Thank you very much man. I'm not the guy who posted the wojak btw. Could you also post those movies you were mentioning when you can?

Thank you too.
That site is confusing as fuck, where is the section where people talk about their life?

Who's Ismail

The owner of /marx/ the board, who basically knows about nearly everything related to Marxism-Leninism

You have to search by topic in the search bar and in the folders. It's an old site so its a bit wonky but you can find great info there ranging on gun rights in the USSR to people's memories of the 1991 fall.

I'll try to make list of them during weekend, I'll deliver it on sunday or monday. Hopefully with some dank OC.

Bump. Hoping for the movie list and dank oc

I did not forget about delivering, I was just got so drunk on saturday I lost entire sunday (and still feeling unwell, not to mention death of my dignity) and this kind of stuff is not complete even on wikipedia or our IMDb clone.