Really?

I didn't bother looking in this thread for literally years, because I knew I'd be dealing with delusional twats.

Which is a pitty, because I actually have a lot of leftist supporters.
As usual, the default position here is 'Muh Marxism' and that shows basically, a pathetically poor attempt at any fact checking.

Literally the only reason we disagree on -anything-, is because you don't do any fact checking vs the Right. I'm going to call them OldRight, because like the Proud Boys being old school italian Mafia, the other segment of my followers are merely trying to resurrect old fashioned values.

You lot, however, don't care about which set of values *works*.
You only care about what you *want*.

If i was wrong, you'd have looked into the credibility of Marx' claims and realised he was just a pathological liar, already.

Privatisation wasn't invented by the Nazis, it was created with the Inclosure Acts of British government up to 700 years prior.

It didn't 'force' anyone into the city, to work for factories.
It actually created the biggest agricultural boom in the entirety of global history.
Farmers were in need of so many helpers, they were literally screaming for more. Everyone lived out in the country or the hamlets ffs.

Marx knew all this, it was still like this when he was born.

For gods' sake people. Wake up to the bullshit you're reading or accept you don't care about the truth and you just want control.
If it's the latter, see a shrink. Please. I'm sick of watching Antifa vs Oldright getting their asses handed to them.

At first it was funny. Then it was maddening to see m80s in bottles. Then i started to just pitty you.

The results speak for themselves. The lot of you are delusional.
Get. Help.

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marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch27.htm
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bbc.co.uk/norfolk/your/a-z_norfolk/a-z_ketts.shtml
spartacus-educational.com/TUDkettR.htm
britannica.com/biography/Robert-Ket#ref69358
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who are you even fighting? take your meds.

What's wrong with wanting control?

Totally incoherent

It is very literally undiagnosed sociopathy.
It's not healthy. That's why so many sociopaths and psychopaths end up in power.

Literally, healthy people do not want control.
It's too much responsibility for no reward.

This might be where you go "Ah, but the reward is feeling powerful".

Healthy people don't need that either.
Having such a strong desire for power or control is *very literally* an illness.

The fact you even have to ask that, is proof you have surrounded yourself with an Echo chamber.
I have twitter and gab accounts.
I have created an official Anonymous headquarters group on Facebook, it's been there for years.

Literally, the only people who are unaware of what this movement is or who i am…

Are the ones who are mentally ill.

Delete the reddit spacing and condense whatever argument or shitpost you've done into a proper readable Paragraph/Statement/Question you probably posted to see a differing opinion comment on. By the looks of your image though it seems you didn't want a discussion you just wanted to post shit. Prove me wrong though.

For starters, you don't control me. It's the other way around. Your friends wouldn't be in jail for Rioting right now and you wouldn't be facing treason charges in the coming months if i were wrong.

I control you. Don't ever forget it. The Left are losing because i'm opposed to you. Period.

Explain to me why i shouldn't be.

Take your meds, OP.

But, just to humor you.
Indeed, you might even say that reals > feels and that we follow materialist philosophy while you follow vulgar idealist philosophy.

What are on about? Even people who don't agree with Marx don't think he was lying.

No one's claiming that privatization of invented by the Nazis, but that the term "privatization" was coined to describe Nazi economic policy, which is true.

They literally sent out soldiers to force people out of the commons, my dude.
Yeah, because that's how mechanization and automation works, you need more workers. Verily makes you ponder why they put up enclosures to keep people out if they had an endless demand for more workers. Dumbass.

Uh… no. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/condition-working-class-england.pdf


I'll be sure to remove the steering wheel and brakes from your car. After all, only a sociopath would want control, right?

Off the bat you're tearing down strawmen. Is this the fabled logical thinking of the Right?

(Seperate side note; Reddit actually copied *me*. I was around first. Not reddit.)

forums.unknownworlds.com/discussion/74060/dodgy-attacks-client-prediction

Boy, it sure is summer in here, isn't it?

Who the hell are you and why should anyone give a damn? Or is this some new copypasta I haven't seen yet?

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1/10 bait harder next time.
Stupid fucking burgers; the mafia was never suits & organized crime like you see on The Sopranos, the mafia was a loose knit gang of street-dwelling shoplifting opportunists. Stop watching so much TV, dumbass.

lmao yeah we're so scared of your 4 middleschooler friends who've taken up the title of new anonymous after the OGs died. Retards like you will never know what it was like back in the day. This is even more pathetic than gamergate. Everyone knows original Anonymous died after Project Chanology, newfags like you just can't let sleeping dogs lie. But what am I saying? You're too young to even know what chanology was.

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I don't need meds, i am not psychotic. You are though. I already see a shrink regularly for adhd/autism, never once been suspected of any kind of psychosis.

Also, no, i don't indulge in philosophy. I'm going off what is proven to historically succeed. Which is imperialist-capitalism. If you disagree, you're entitled to, just like you're entitled to your *opinion* and i'd fight to the death to protect your right to your *opinion*.

But pretending like your opinion is reality = delusion. That's all. It doesn't get any simpler.

You are mentally ill. Not "Educated". Not "Wiser". Not "Smarter".

You are delusional. The fact you believe Marxist propaganda about soldiers forcing people anywhere, is proof of claim.

Soldiers literally didn't even exist 700 years ago.
The *WORD* soldier isn't even around in 1300AD. It just started evolving from French soudier.

As for your marxism link…it's irrelevant. Propaganda is not reality.

Indicating that Marx was a pathological liar isn't a "Strawman". Only a troll even conflates it with strawman fallacy.

You're doing the same as claiming that saying a literally retarded person is "Stupid", is attacking them.

It's not an attack.
It's a statement of FACT.
Marx was just a pathological liar.

No strawman. Marxism has literally never worked.

And i'm very much aware what mafia were. They're still around. Communism and Socialism are not. Mafia have literally survived longer than your "Ideal form of government".

Check mate. You are now literally insulting yourself, because you're too stupid to realise you're being stupid.

What the fuck are you posting, I'm probably not even on the same continent as you.
I'm not a Amerimutt and I bet this is some dumb antifa thing which is far overblown since all the alt-right and antifa do at these things is hit each-other with some flagpoles and pepper spray each-other. Come back with the treason stuff when armed insurgents start storming military and government buildings or random killings of right wing people start happening, you sound like the people who thought antifa was actually going to rise up on the 100th anniversary of the Russian one. Antifa poses no credible threat or chance at large power in America unlike militia movements who have actually done vast amount of damage to state infrastructure and state employees.

Okay to facilitate a discussion what is your definition of
Neo-liberalism:
Social Democracy:
Communism:
Socialism:
Capitalism:
What politically to you is Bernie Sanders?

Please try to not ramble off into a word blender like a bot joining a bunch of words together without a argument or some form of philosophical enlightenment you would like to share. If you do not then I am afraid I cannot help in having a discussion as I do not wish to spend time making sense of a point someone was being purposely obtuse about.

You think that stops me? Oh boy. This is going to be painful.


OK, as for your legitimate questions;
Literally antifa.
No such thing (Although i'd like to see it).
Marxism. Literally, his core ideology.
The alternative, since people recognised Communism couldn't possibly succeed.
The evolved form of British/Western/Imperialist free trade.
A nutjob.

Then take your adhd/autism meds. Center yourself, you're rambling.

You don't seem to understand what philosophy is nor do you understand how your favored system actually functions other than for the fact that it is momentarily dominant. Not a good long-term plan, friendo. Methinks a few hundred years ago you'd be telling us that feudalism is here to stay and will always be the best system. And a millennium before that, you'd be saying that of course the Roman Empire will always be around, it's the best system there could ever be, after all.

You don't even know what my opinion is.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kett's_Rebellion
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland_Revolt
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Rising_and_disafforestation_riots

Wew lad. Maybe they used a different word, I can't be assed to look it up, but I'm pretty sure that armed men in the employ of the state carrying out it's foreign and at times domestic will through violent means far predates 1300 AD.

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Obunga
Scandinavia
North Korea
Venezuela
Hong Kong
a kike

Marxism is a critique of capitalism, not a praxis; so that alone tells me you have no idea what you're talking about.
But I'll humor you: I'll post some marxist concepts and you tell me what you think is wrong with them:
Nope, you're a dumbass, that's why you think the proud fags were anything like them.
We're bringing it back, nigger.
And this proves what, exactly? Given enough time, anything will surpass its predecessers in time.
Look, kiddo, I know you're having fun being retarded because hey, it's summer, and hey, you can. But, you hold no power here. lmao.

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Read a book and come back to us.
investopedia.com/terms/n/neoliberalism.asp
globalissues.org/article/39/a-primer-on-neoliberalism#Neoliberalismis
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

on what exactly, please source the original material.

Jesus, at least read the Wikipedia page before coming here you dickwad.


seriously take your meds. if you don't have some, go to a psych doctor and tell him you have delusions of grandeur and severe autism.

Truly impressive critique. I've decided to place my head in a grinder in an attempt to emulate your gigantesque intellectual stature

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No i'm not. I am centred all the time. I know what i'm doing. The fact you have no legitimate, trustworthy source to cite or reply with is factual proof you *have no* defensible opinion here.

If i was wrong, you'd be able to reference someone. Anybody with historical proof of claim.

Btw, feudalism is imperialism.
British empire, was imperialist.
You are the one who's confused.
You think you're dealing with separate kinds of government when they literally behaved the same way.
The British actually respected Roman Imperialism so much they instituted it into the Australian Constitution.

Antifa is quite different from the current neo-liberal order. The current order is for capitalists and rich individuals and economic exploitation of the third world though the use of the IMF and America's military power. Antifa is for no capitalists, no rich people and no imperialism on foreign nations.
If your unable to differentiate between America and Norway in terms of economics and social policies then I recommend doing some reading as you've done what liberals do, being unable to see the differences between Trump and Hitler as there are few similarities between what Antifa or Social democracies want and what Hillery Clinton wants.
Scandinavian countries are social democracies.
Socialism is quite different to Communism and existed in forms before Marx.

Will you be putting forth any arguments or anything along those lines otherwise I could visit some right wing websites or read some books and get your beliefs without the need of asking you a bunch of stuff.

Wrong. Even Sargon of Akkad is taking the piss out of you and the collapse of leftist ideology.


I'm not going to bother, when you quote liberal sources *chuckles*. That's ridiculously stupid of you. Antifa and SJW's literally call themselves liberals. They are the product of NeoLiberalism whether you are willing to agree or not.


1. His works.
2. I have. I am right. When you take his criticisms of capitalism, flip them and envison a governmental model in which you fix the problems - you get communism. Marx is credited widely as being the literal creator of communism ideology.

Not my fault you're literally 12 and don't even understand the man who you fanboy over.

Capitalism literally rewards sociopathy, so ask your therapist for more meds, son.

You are clearly nuts. The current order is a globalist oligarchy. They're literally nazis.The Trump administration goes far towards changing that….and you hate him.

Your hatred of him is literally proof you don't care what government model is in control.

As long as *you're* in control.

You don't find Wikipedia a trustworthy source? Are we doing the stupid "let's pretend this internet argument is a term paper" bullshit? What do you think is a trustworthy source, I guarantee they'll say the same shit.

Fuedalism was a socio-economic system, imperialism is a form of policy based on the extraction of resources from foreign lands through various means.

Here's pretty much the definitive work of the Marxist analysis of modern imperialism:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperialism,_the_Highest_Stage_of_Capitalism

Finally a legitimate criticism!
Yes! it does!
But so does communism + socialism.
Ask a survivor of the Yugoslav war.

go back to cringeanarchy and stay there thanks

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What drugs are you on? Truth is truth, doesn't matter where it comes from. I'm just sick of seeing a bunch of morons quote SJW modified marxist propaganda as truth.

If you had a *legitimate* source you'd cite it.
It's that fucking simple.
Wiki for the nazi party for example literally states it was Right wing, which is impossible because it's a socialist party.
You lot are actually nuts.
I'm not attacking you here, i'm stating you are so nuts you will actually believe total BULLSHIT like "Nazis were right wing socialists".

HOW THE FUCK is socialism RIGHT WING?

Ebin simply ebin

Wrong link: marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/

wage labor with welfare benefits isn't socialism

Yes it is. That's what we have here in Aus.
And it works.
And we are considered the most socialist country in the western Bloc

Lenin literally became insane to the point ⛏️rotsky opposed him. You take this mans' opinions as credible.

This speaks volumes about how dangerously unstable you are.

oi there cunt wage laybah ain't socialist bro

I get that you're intensely autistic and we needn't play sprachspiel and "spot the Dunning-Kruger effect" all night, do you have any manner of substantive critique that doesn't amount to vitriolic spasms?

Ah, Dunning-Kruger indeed…you actually just don't know what you're talking about. You should say so sooner, as for a second I genuinely believed you irredeemably retarded

You know D-K is misused right?
You are literally proving me right.
You are projecting.

?
Are you claiming that Wikipedia is somehow "marxist propaganda"? Even about fucking historical events that all fucking encylopedias will have recorded?

No, I just can't be assed to dig any further for a rambling internet nutjob.
It was right wing, it only called itself "socialist" because it wanted to appeal to the German working classes, but had no actual socialist policies, and in fact arrested socialists and communists and ran on a platform of oppostion to the USSR and, as a point of fact, the term "privatization" was coined specifically to describe Nazi economic policy.

Simple, the Nazis weren't fucking socialists. They were backed by German industrialists, petit bourgeois and conservatives, privatized many of the assets of the Weimar Republic and crushed labor unions. They couldn't have been further from socialists if they tried. Even Hitler admitted that his definion of "socialism" was completely different from the one everyone else was using, and his definition was so vague and wishy-washy it was effectively meaningless. Meaning that it was just an appeal to the German working classes, nothing more.

Uh, no. ⛏️rotsky was loyal to Lenin to the last. He did become more unhinged later in life, but that was due to an assassination attempt that left him with a medical condition that gave him seizures. He wrote Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism well before that happened.

Ah, forgive me, comrade 'no-sources'. I don't mean to traduce upon thine effulgent and truly Delphic thoughts. Please furnish upon your lowly servant ANY FUCKING SOURCE instead of standing idle spewing some venomous accusations

mate ya need ta find a betta hobby i'm tellin ya

No their not, they are not literally working on policies which Fascists from the 30's had, once again fascists and capitalists are intertwined in ways but to compare the Democrats to the literal policies of Nazi's from the 30's is extremely wrong.
No the Trump administration has kept things rather the same. The capitalistic neo-liberal order is still in power.
No I like him because he's ruining relations with US allies.
Trump is the neo-liberal order. Trump or Hillery are the same they keep the capitalist ruling powers in charge. A conservative or a Liberal are the same in regards to this policy and only change in social policy and welfare.

Good point! Now if they EXISTED, you'd be able to CITE THEM. But you CANT, because i'm RIGHT.

These things only exist on wikipedia and in Marxist propaganda websites.

They literally never happened the way you believe. Take Ketts' Rebellion for example as linked earlier, the Enclosure acts were treated like "Stolen Land" and not privatisation on the wiki. Which is false. Commoners were using GOVERNMENT land to make a profit and got shoved off of it.

That's not "Bad evil government". That's stopping leeches from stealing and surviving off the hard work of everyone who maintained that land, including the money the Crown had to invest to keep it fit for the sheep.

Disqualified, leave.

Total bullshit. The nazis didn't privatise a fucking thing. Bayer didn't even become a company instead of a government department until the war was well and truly over.

The British Imperials did that.
Not the fucking Nazis.
Thanks for proving me right *again*.
You're so motherfucking dense you will actually defend propaganda over the factual company creation date of Bayer for Zyklon B privatisation.

Nigger you are retarded, this is literally shit I used to post about, this is literally from Marx's Capital:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch27.htm


Read fucking Marx before you decide to shitpost about him, low-effort bait anyway.

t. RETARD GANG

Still not hearing anything of those critiques. Is it because you're a dumbass and don't know what you're talking about? I rather think so. Listen kid, go to bed.

holy fucking shit my sides lol

Nigger either reply to my shit or get fucked, I called you out here

No. You linked marxist propaganda. You automatically lose because it's impossible to verify it. Unlike the kett rebellion, which historically is significantly different to Marx' claims

britainexpress.com/History/tudor/ketts-rebellion.htm

Wow stop being retarded any time.

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britannica.com/biography/Robert-Ket#ref69358
Maybe you're not off your meds, I'm beginning to think you're actually on some very special "meds" already.
Maybe in a sense considering that it was a holdover from feudalism.
Wew lad.

Why do all the Zig Forumsyps have to come up with these wild fantasies of having men work under them, being in power, pretending they are rich businessmen, etc…
Just a day or so ago one of you retards bragged he got hundreds of skinheads to actually read nazi related shit and that he is ready for a civil war.
Is it fun to dream being big while you screaming at interracial couples on the internet?

Pol is the *result* of my actions.
Not the other way around.
I've linked proof and still you think i'm LARPing.
Are you the same kind of retard which accuses people of "Nazi LARPing" and then screams about fighting nazis, supporting antifa?

Most of them are just 14 year old white suburbanites who want to be just like their over worked daddy who is too drunk most of the time to actually talk to them about what real life is like (when he is even at home that is.)

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Your link doesn't even contradict our claim.

In ten words or less explain why we should try to rehabilitate schizos like OP instead of just putting a bullet in them.

good luck

We could gain a lot of psychological insight into their condition.

Medical analysis: how this psycho escaped proper diagnosis.

From your source:
From mine
marxists.org/archive/eleanor-marx/1895/working-class-england/ch01.htm
My shit is verifiable. Marx used sources from medieval England about this shit, of which there were a ton in mid 19th century England. You are a nigger who doesn't read.

a Unit 731 full of reactionaries? I'm sold.

You're spooked. Also pic related.

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Cancer thread and OP is a faggot. In Nazi Germany, they used the word reprivatization, emphasis on the re-, as in going from government-controlled back to private contractors. Even if some British financial niggers did it before them, it doesn't mean that they had any clue what they were doing in the first place. The point is that Hitler's regime showed how effective privatization can be when it is partially planned and ordered through the government. Where others governments still strictly believed in fully controlled institutions or completely unrelated free market contractors.
The part about agriculture did happen. But funnily enough, there were a lot of other factors playing into this after it had forced a lot of serfs into the cities. Especially considering what happened with agricultural technology during the early stages of capitalism, and the fact that all the new workers in the cities needed to be fed.

How embarassing op. I hope you will stick around, you'd make an excellent lolcow.

We need control brains; drown him instead.

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why do all reactionary threads consist of the OP trying to act like some patronizing "wise father", whilst both being younger then those their preaching to, and not fully understanding what their talking about?

So this what Brainforce does to you

they're trying to be like the boomers they are inside, old and not knowing anything

what the fuck am I reading

i love this constant balancing act Zig Forums has to do between nazism and simpering liberalism that literally nobody who doesn't already agree with them falls for

nobody cares about power and control more than fascists, to the point of absolute pathology. find one Zig Forums thread where someone isn't crying about how cuck porn is ruining society or whatever

they think their boomer dad will stop thinking they're a millenial dork if they act enough like him

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Pretty sure that nobody even claimed that the Nazis invented privatization, only that the word "privatization" was first coined to describe their policies. OP is too stupid to tell the difference apparently.

Do you not know the difference between thread and board? You made this thread. The board is Zig Forums and the site is Zig Forums.
Marx could not have lied about the Nazis, since he didn't write about the Nazis (Marx died in 1883). Marx didn't hide the history of Enclosure in Britain, in Capital there is a chapter dealing with that (marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch27.htm), as already pointed out by