AYNCRAPS GENERAL

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wildboar.net/multilingual/easterneuropean/russian/literature/articles/whofinanced/whofinancedleninandtrotsky.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olof_Aschberg

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Used to be an ancap; a socialist politely making the argument in pic related (expanding with the fact that absentee ownership is a key feature of capitalism but nonexistent in nature) during a debate was ultimately the tipping point.
Other contributors were finding Stefan Molymeme's creepy doxxing website where he keeps indepth profiles of the people that bailed on that ancap house project he made, which made me realize he was fucking nuts, and seeing other ancaps start embracing Hans-Hermann Hoppe and advocating his anti-democractic views and preference for feudalism.
Another socialist once pointed out that you run into all kinds of fucked up problems by building a system of morality/ethics using private property/inanimate objects as the "baseline" (not sure what the exact terminology would be) rather than human lives. They used some of Karl Polanyi's "The Great Transformation" to show that markets are actually a historically rare and tightly limited phenomena rather than everpresent throughout human history, same for private property, which took another brick out of my ideological wall.

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Germans literally drove a armored train straight into Russia just for Lenin.

Lets look at who funded 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧Hitler🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 though?
timesofisrael.com/venezuelan-mp-says-zionists-bush-family-financed-hitler/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Federation_of_Germany
The group supported the 1933 Haavara Agreement between Nazi Germany and German Zionist Jews

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Agency_for_Israel#Jewish_Agency_for_Palestine_1929–1948

t. doesn't know what capitalism is

Soviets and the Chinese
Stalin
Who killed lots of Bankers?
Soviets
Who let the Rothchilds go free?
Hitler
Who organized strikes against the Rothschilds?
Stalin
Hitler

Communism is NAZBOL GANG
NAZISM IS ZIONIST GANG

First off, there's some things that Austrians say that are true, you can't apply socialism to the supply and demand curve until everything is roses.
But aside from pointing out that simple economic principles don't just go away they're mostly useless along with their conclusions, just because the government skews and causes bad side effects in public health doesn't stop people overwhelmingly preferring government intervention, whatever cost there is, the people gladly accept it for the benefit of accessible healthcare.

But here is my main argument:
Austrian theory is based off Praxeology, an old a priori method of psychology, it derives axioms from thinking about a pure scenario and how a human would act, they then extrapolate outwards until they derive how humans will act in an economy.

This is why when you show evidence they don't care for it, because you have to show how their a priori axioms are wrong, they've been fapping to a foundation of economics that Archimedes could've debunked, some things you just have to measure.

THE FUCKING SECOND ONE

Ancaps have unfortunately hijacked anarchism in the eyes of many "normie" Americans in my experience.

No he didn't, fuck off with this Str*sserite bullshit. Anti-semitism was literally illegal under Stalin, as it should have been.

You tank-fags are in no position to say "my socialism is better than yours", considering the USSR and other ML factions backstabbed other leftists and sabotaged their revolutions.

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He may have been a dick, but Stalin wasn't an anti-semite. You could literally get shot for engaging in that shit in the USSR.

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm

memes XD

The Black Army robbed Soviet trains. The CNT refused the USSRs help then stole their weapons anyways. Don't talk about betrayal. Why do anarchists always bring up the fact that the Soviet Union is no longer around when they have less around than we do? Zapatistas? Give me a break. You ain't got shit.

Literal bolshevik slander and projection
nestormakhno.info/english/makfaq/h_6_15.htm
Beats what you tank-fags call """"socialism."""
Yeah, it's almost as if the USSR was hijacking the popular revolution and sided with liberal bourgeois republicans.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Days

And while you're at it, read "Nestor Makhno: anarchy's cossack". I know that you tank-fags have a hard time reading, but at least make a conscious effort to have some fucking nuance.

I was once an ancap to comrade

The be-all end-all of ayncrapism:

You buy a piece of land. I buy all the pieces of land around your land, I also fence it, entrapping you. At this point you are at my mercy. You can't leave, stepping on my land violates the NAP and I will shoot you. If you stay, you starve to death. Maybe if I am merciful, you can sign a contract with me, becoming my serf for life, and every once in awhile you can leave the land for a brief peroid of time, but you will have to come back and till the soil for my profits, if you don't, you broke our contract and the NAP by extension, I will send my private police to shoot you.

I have not met a single ayncrap who can refute this scenario. It's your metaphorical silver bullet, and ayncraps get the bullet too.

By the way, check out this absolute gem: rationalwiki.org/wiki/Libertarian_paradise

Somalia was cited by the Mises Institute as a case of when no Government is better than a Government.

mises.org/library/stateless-somalia-and-loving-it

At the end of the day, I don't give a shit about who's telling the truth and who isn't. Your movements have never had an impact on the world greater than starting civil wars and 3 month romps through Paris. Riots do what exactly? Setting some random person's car on fire only pisses off the people you need to be winning over. Your praxis fucking sucks.
I admit, I am not very well read, having only been looking into this stuff for the past year, but it's obvious to me already that anarchism lacks the ability to properly defend itself. The Soviet Union, despite its flaws, despite being dissolved, despite the lies of the West, did more for socialism than anarchism ever will. They helped spread socialism to Cuba, Vietnam, China, Laos, Hungary, Korea, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Do things always work out perfectly? No, but you're an idealist, so it doesn't matter.

I repeat: You ain't got shit.

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lol piss off
Fixed that for you. At least we don't sell out after the first few years of establishing ourselves and actually give the workers the MoP.

free marketssss

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I need something about roads and Domino's Pizza.

I don't think he quite understands Falangism and its absolute hatred of Capitalism.

not even a ☭TANKIE☭ but this is some retarded ass logic

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This is genuinely the most nuclear take I've ever seen on this board.

My sides, nuked!

←Lower rez, non-redditized version

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LOL, if you can last that long.

This

It's politics. People lie. On all sides. Throwing heavily biased sources back and forth at each other proves fuck all.

haha, last pic

Pic related

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I watched a bit of that LL&A cooking video and the guy's legit mental. Literally just him talking aloud and getting angry about jews while failing at making food.

It's well known that many recent pol "converts" use the tank symbol cus they're autistic and think it looks cool
You aren't fooling anyone.

Is that real? That's the funniest shit I've seen all day

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This is one confused burger lol

I wish I could have screenshot it, but I once saw a group of ancaps saying zuckerberg wanted to use facebook to implement marxist propoganda.

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What if I don't care which means of production you use? Does that mean I'm a straight up "black" anarchist without the red, yellow or orange? Or do I default to yellow on account of just not wanting rules in general?

Yes, you're being very quirky and random. Have a (you) and a golf clap.

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Have you read a book, like even once?
The USSR supported the side that had a chance of winning the war in Spain.
I've never gotten this criticism, "the marxists/republicans were more interested in the war than revolution", well they LOST THE WAR, and the revolution was brutally crushed. It's almost as if they were right to focus on the war effort, eh?

The white flag.

classic

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Probs black and yellow honestly. If you just "dont want any rules", your effectively and ancrap

isreview.org/issues/53/makhno.shtml

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MUH CORPORATE MARXISM

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On the third image: Don't forget about Oskar Lange, who worked, too, with the favorite subject of this board: Cybernetics

hi rhino

But he was also dirty "neo-classical socialist" (marsucc) so fuck him.

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wrong pic

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Boy, I wish. These motherfuckers are getting confident.

forbes.com/sites/panosmourdoukoutas/2018/07/21/amazon-should-replace-local-libraries-to-save-taxpayers-money/#763807d760a8

The lit thread for this is a shitshow.

that's not really ancapism though, but old fashioned corproate takeovers and privatisation.

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Literally an ideology for sociopaths

that's just capitalism in general, famarade.

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I honestly don't kno wmany rightwingers who would be ok with selling and starving children.
At least THEIR children.

and therin lies the problem with hardline cappies, the "fuck you, got mine" attitude you see in burgers. as long as it's not their kid, they couldn't give less of a fuck

to be fair, ancaps are kind of fringe

get this, he starts complaining about child labor laws in the same chapter
mises.org/library/children-and-rights

this right here

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Luckily they don't really exist outside of USA. I happen to one of the like…10 Italian ancaps and he's one the most unpleasant person I know.

I know of maybe one brit ancap and even then, maybe he's just a tory shitposter.

This is because ancaps are essentially a product of America's culture. Their inane, often contradictory beliefs can easily be traced back to the mentality of American conservatism.

It's a flag designed by left-libertarian Jason Lee Byas, who wants to see the black and gold redeemed.

Sorry for facebook link, couldn't find the video elsewhere

facebook.com/ABCForeignCorrespondent/videos/10155749841498295/

god i hate gringos so much, read the comments if you REALLY want a dosage of modern-day white man's burden mixed in with capitalist righteousness

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Makes me go hmmm

"The former generations acted under the belief that a shining social prosperity was the beatitude of man, and sacrificed uniformly the citizen to the State. The modern mind believed that the nation existed for the individual, for the guardianship and education of every man. This idea, roughly written in revolutions and national movements, in the mind of the philosopher had far more precision; the individual is the world."

-Ralph Waldo Emerson, in "Historic Notes of Life and Letters in New England" (1867), published in The Atlantic Monthly (October 1883).

Oh god please let that be real.

Reminder

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It's anarchism……..anarchism with a lot of hierarchies?

Hierarchy is natural, put ten people into a room and systems emerge. Communism attempts to prevent organic outcomes by doing away with hierarchy

Indeed it is…that's why when capitalism crumbles due to the corruptions it spawns, the tax payer's money must be used to bail out banks.
Capitalism can't function without the state. It generates too much corruption, too much useless social parasites.

crony amerimutt capitalism =\= capitalism. imagine a world where taxes didn't exist and these criminals were never bailed out

you've been lied to

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And a state to enforce property rights to boot

It's a pretty advanced form of anarchism. You probably haven't heard of it before

LOL no, step aside, neo-feudalist, make way for the real anarchists.

popularresistance.org/how-hierarchy-is-actually-bad-for-your-health/

Capitalism allows for the 'cronyism' you dumbasses push for, you're just hoping it won't happen but don't do anything to stop it, then when it inevnitably does happen, you whine and complain it wasn't real capitalism.
It's like saying "I don't want my dog to eat my steak, so I'm going to leave my steak right here in front of my dog, and, trusting the Free Dogfood Market, I'm sure my dog won't eat my steak, even though I put absolutely no restrictions on him, especially not a leash. I came back an hour later and WOULDN'T YOU FUCKING KNOW IT, MY FUCKING DOG ATE MY FUCKING STEAK! THIS WAS CRONY DOGFOODISM!"

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