Hey y'all.
I recently became a Leftist, partly because of me coming to the logical conclusion of Christian ethics (Resurrection by Tolstoy mainly), and partly because I discovered Zero Books on youtube (which holy fuck I like)
I've gotten the list of book I need to read (I began with Kropotkin's Mutual Aid, so far its really good)
Other than reading, what can I *actually do* as a Leftist to help further the cause? Talk to people? Volunteer? Get involved at YDSA?
Stop immediately listening to zero books and reading anarchist theory for fuck sake
what's wrong with zero books
haha that is a negative ghost rider, the state as it currently exists is immoral
You weren't around when that leftcom fuck invited a liberal that shouted anti assad propaganda? Or when he said that gulag archipelago is a muat read?
I don't disagree with you but you are siding with the people who call morality non existent and burn nuns for the lulz.
Read marx, lenin and mao instead. Watch a few hours of photos of daily life in the ussr and come back as a smart men
hahahaha, I'm not gonna look at USSR propoganda, and the USSR was a failed state that didn't achieve communism.
Yeah, whatever. You are a waste of time.
okay then, thanks for the help bud
More proof that christ*coms* are trash.
Fuck, I'm terrible. sorry boios
Kill yourself.
Improve the gene pool.
nice thanks
You are admittedly new but got no shame to spout slander. You can go the fuck back to whatever the fuck you are, if you want information on how things works and what they look like I'll gladly post soviet data and theory otherwise go the fuck back
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Also this is what your anarchist friends do to religious people. But go on pls, be a useful idiot for them
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Agitate. Educate. Organise.
Get your theory up to par and join a party.
Take a look at: docs.google.com
STOP BEING ASSHOLES TO THE NEWFAG
Reminder that the Catholic Church stole tens of thousands of children from Republican parents and gave them to fascists.
La única iglesia que ilumina es la que arde.
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I don't support random extrajudicial rape and torture but the Church as a whole deserved much worse than it got.
Your best bet is probably getting involved in a local organization or labor union, though they can be extremely hit-or-miss. Just try to find one that focuses on economic issues instead of identity politics and such.
M8 you're talking about clergy members who were executed for literally kidnapping small children and infants and who sided with a murderous fascist regime during a civil war, it wasn't exactly "for the lulz". Also, Stirnerfags' rejection of objective morality doesn't mean people should start acting like sociopaths, its more about being honest with themselves as to why they hold such views and understanding why they aren't really objective.
Just ignore the tankíes
Did the statue of Kike onna cross come to live and kidnap the children?
Get a job and a wife
N-not the poor statues
Says the ☭TANKIE☭s who worship Stalin who remade the statues lol
And shed a tear when a Stalin statue is toppled.
Oh great more moralists, worse of all christian moralists. Religion will end when the people no longer need their opium and the catholic church is a inherently shitty organization and has fought tooth and nail it's whole existence to spread it's genocidal doctrines and retain power. Even today it is complicit in the rape of tens of thousands of children world wide and double edged policies in Africa in the regard to use of Condoms and anti-conception pills.
A true Marxist wouldn't even use a disgusting christian communist identity and certainly wouldn't be one just because Jesus said some shit. It's entirely undialectical and unscientific stuff which Marxism is born of.
Stalin would gulag you.
Not even a fan of christcoms but Marxists don't have a monopoly on communism
Good thing by being dialectical I can choose the parts which Stalin did good on or parts where he may of failed or not done as well as planned and take note of them for future implementations of Socialism.
Unlike basing everything on a book translated though several ancient languages, written decades after Jesus supposed death from memory and stories,probably missing several verses and built upon a even more openly genocidal,racist older texts which justify everything it does and it's followers have to delude themselves with "faith" because overwhelming evidence otherwise proves the entire thing wrong. I like how christans can choose to believe in evolution,global warming and other proven things but then can't rid themselves of fiction.
Thanks bunches
True. Even Marx himself would say he's describing historical/societal trends and forces rather than creating his own unique t®ademarked/patented invention right? Correct me if I'm wrong better versed posters.
Moralism speaks to the people and is extremely resistant to revisionism. Deal with it. The west will fall and autistic atheism will fall with it. Also Yuri never said that shit. Khrushchev can continue to burn in hell for all eternity after what he did to the USSR.
Nice spooks bud
lol just become a fascist. It's in your self interest if you are a first worlder after all. Your time is over. Die. Just fucking die.
Christianity is stupid, at least chose a better religion
It's not in my self interest to be crushed under porky's boot bucko.
Stop kidding yourself and accept your egoism.
Reading all forms of theory is good, even reactionary theory in order to know your enemy. Don’t be Muke.
This, but choose wisely. There's no reason to read a 3rd-tier esoteric Nazi theorist other than morbid curiosity
egoist communism is a good idea
It's also unscientific and changes due to the conditions of the people.
Teaching the bible in schools or something for the sake of keeping everyone in the same "moral" christian mindset is fucking barbaric and an insult to human intelligence and society. Religion was also promoted by the Nazi's so lets not pretend your moralism is somehow immune to it's own revisionism. Deus le vult and all especially in a world where GOD IS NOT REAL and any of your morals are easily subject to change based on who raised you and how your life was. The Orthodox church canonized the Tsar for crying out loud.
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Speaking as a person who was brought up in country with absolute majority of atheists population, we view religion as delusion, as a relic of past. But churches(buildings) and cathedrals are treasured cultural heritage.
Only in burgerland can a faith of god be taken seriously, because people are kept uneducated and cannot reason what is the source of their rights and freedoms, and they mistakenly conclude that they are given by god. Or they might have a conception around these lines even though they do not vocalize it.
In fact, faith in god is an act of autism. Because it makes you feel like god or Jesus loves you, and that makes you also believe that you have an immortal soul. Such a selfish view that leads inevitably to obsession with self, hence autism.
you could start a local food not bombs chapter
Wut?
I know you're new, and I was like this when I first became a leftist, but the only people who say shit like that are either new and need to hit the books, or retarded ⛏️rotskyists who eat up CIA propaganda and the Black Book of Bullshit.
Talking to people is the best thing. Organising on a local level. You can drive to all the big marches you like, it doesn't change shit. Since you brought-up YDSA I assume you are a yank. America is a wasteland of socialist organisations, but joining the D.S.A. is worth it purely to get in with their activism. Look to join other orgs, People's March looks like a decent one. They don't have to be explicitly socialist, perhaps they are single-issue related to your local area, but if you are there AS a socialist, speaking to people about basic concepts and pushing the dialectic it is worth it in the position that America is in. Oh also continue to read, not just theory but also history: specifically of successful socialist movements, those that failed and local socialist history.
Kid you need to grow up. Christian communism isn't about freedom. It's about fulfilling God's promise to the world by promoting communism for the world and revolutionary defeatism for the west (ESPECIALLY America.)
Unironically kys
Why are christcoms always such bad posters?
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Jej
There is objectively nothing wrong with killing reactionaries and expropriating church property.
Yeah, go cry about muh dindu clergy back in Zig Forums
All fascists and their collaborators need to burn. A cloth should not exempt you from the punishment of history.
t. Amerifat or some other brand of first worlder
jfc
I figured he was trying to say without saying "I'm not one of those fag-hating Christians."
not today cia
lol. I swear on my mum that I didn't even notice. I lifted it out of Google. Lol
Let's be honest m8, you already forsook Christ and his Church. Just admit it.
Hegel is a rationalized Jesus and Marx is a materialist Hegel.
Marxism is a dialectical evolution from christianism
Anyway, anti-christianism is sterile, you're beating a dead horse.
Is Sabocat the worst poster on Zig Forums?
Let's see
Yes he is
came here for the cringe. this douchebag has all of you fagits beat. kill yourselves. le
t. fite me
go shove that smug inside your ass
are you willingly dense
I really just must know, Christanon, why the religion? What convinced you?
The bible contradicts itself about a great many things. But not homosexuality. It is consistent about that subject.
lame
t. illiterate
(I’m OP on my phone)
I was raised in the faith, had an antitheist phase, then decided to take a leap of faith. Dunno. Life is meaningless without God I guess.
Seems like an odd reason if you have the choice. Like, why the Christian God?
Well I’m convinced of the historicity of the resurrection of Christ, and of Christ rose again, maybe what he said was true.
What evidence is there of the literal resurrection of Christ? Mythicism is a big fuckin' meme but they have a point that there's not that good of a case for a singular historical Christ, let alone a resurrected Christ.
STOP BEING RELIGIOUS YOU FUCKS
Well, what I think Tacitus mentioned Christ, and so did Josephus? And we have the letters from Apostles who knew Christ, and we have writings from people who were taught by them.
And we can also talk about the Resurrection. I guess we'd have to make the first assumption that Jesus of Nazareth was buried in a tomb after being crucified, and a rock put in front of the mouth, and two guards placed outside.
I'm sorry, I'm not much into apologetics. I think people who are think of themselves like St. Athanasius or like Luther, when in reality they're some washed up middle-aged man who didn't know what to do with their life and then became a preacher for the Southern Baptist Convention.
Josephus would have been a child when Christ was live, Tacitus wouldn't even have been alive, so we're dealing with tertiary accounts.
You'd have to prove there was a singular Jesus of Nazareth, and that the biblical account of the event was accurate, which it isn't where we can fact check it. For instance, the Romans literally never conducted the census alleged when Christ was to have been born.
The concept of history that is central to Hegel is deeply influenced by the eschatological aspect of christianism, and there is certainly a form of trinity in Hegel's god. Hegelian philosophy was molded by christianism, while depassing it.
Christianism was an emancipatory doctrin, it was basically saying that the material world is the property of the humans, not of some gods or forest spirits, and it was much more materialist than it is today, for example the first christians didn't believe in Heaven or Hell (or more precisely they believed in it in a "materialist" way, if you're remembered as a good person after your death, you're metaphorically in "Heaven").
Religion in the modern era truly is a mental illness
Christ it's like it's 2008 again holy shit.
it's pire the fat boy
he actually is forced to use a sabocat since there is no deleon flag
that image will forever hunt my fucking dreams
Don’t do it. Waste of time, they’re all fucking liberals. Trust me. Don’t make the mistake I did.
don't tell me this is rules 34 and 63 skinny Allmight
Please don't get scared off by the ☭TANKIE☭s OP. You're doing great. Sadly I don't think there's much you can do. Just associate with whatever leftist organization and try to radicalize whoever you come across. Though I won't pretend to have any experience with this.
Evola is unironically good though
lol no he isn't
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Ignore this faggot
I recommend The Conquest of Bread after you're done.
Use these resources:
theanarchistlibrary.org
libgen.io
Not every anarchist is an egoist anarchist and morality actually doesn't exist, it's not a plea to turn to immoralism
Fuck yourself.
No seriously, fuck yourself.
lol no, Stirner destroyed Marx you revisionist little shit.
theanarchistlibrary.org
Reminder hegelian dialectics is a spook & Stirner single-handedly turned Marx away from humanism. Suck it, marxists!
Evola is the worst thing to happen to Italy since Italy.
absolutely underrated ahahaha