theres a pdf and epub on libgen
Cockshott General 2.0
Cameron Gonzalez
Michael Powell
Oh wow, I missed it
Gavin Harris
I've been discussing Cockshotts proposal with a random right-libertarian somewhere online, and the conversation has made me wonder about two basic questions:
(1.) How does the "selling" and "renting" of personal property proceed under socialism? Take the example of a boat. I like fishing and want to have my own little boat, so I have to save up and compensate the labor content for it, right? Great, but what then if I decide I want to take a couple of tourists on my boat each year? Then they can enjoy offshore fishing without having to buy their own. What if I get sick of my boat and wish to transfer it to someone else?
Clearly they would have to return part of the labor content to me. How does this proceed? Do we allow a limited market for this?
(2.) Enterprises often require small services from other enterprises. Take you have a specific task to perform, and you need a computer programmer to implement some software that can do it for you. How does this proceed?
Some options I imagine for this: (a) We allow enterprises a limited labor-budget to compensate such expenses. I'm not quite sure what the macroeconomic implications here would be. (b) We have some external mechanism to prioritize such tasks. This would likely require some external bureaucracy, and could end up with significant waiting periods. That certainly isn't ideal. (c) Lay the responsibility with the programmer. He is regularly checked on whether his activities have been productive. This might be more flexible, but lack of adequate care could cause economic inefficiency, and too much surveillance would put stress on the worker. (d) Lay the responsibility with the enterprise. This could cause similar problems.
Some combination of these options might also be viable. What do you guys think? Is there some central idea that resolves this question?
Ryder Smith
For big purchases like a car or a boat, you can re-sell it to a licensed reseller who will asses the value of the item. Most likely it will just be calculated from the precalculated deprecation, barring any accidents.
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You dont need to do any sort of payment or limitations. If an enterprise needs to have their electricity system redone because it got fried during a thunderstorm, limiting their productive ability by saying "no only x amount of vouchers can be spend on it" is going to be detrimental to society, and by giving them a budget of sorts you also incentivise them to spend it all just in case they come up short next year which means unnecessary costs are made.
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Kayden Phillips
(which you will need to take/get insurance for)
Easton Ward
Gotta add:
Imagine it is a giant corporations, instead of disjucted enterprises, because thats essentially what it is.
Over the whole, you know roughly how much you need tech support and other kinds of maintenance guys for internal use. You just hire them and deploy them as needed. You can then add whatever additional costs they made to the production costs of the products for the next planning phase, assuming you smooth them out for irregularities.
Jose Jenkins
HE'S COMING BUCKOS
Samuel Butler
Last add:
Consider that there are three kinds of "services" that enterprises purchase from each other.
Thomas Allen
I don't know how they do it, but just when I think I couldn't possibly despise ancaps any more, they go and prove me wrong.
Jackson Morgan
Yess, has he said wich publisher would it be?