China’s resolute and visionary ruling party, the Communist Party of China (#CPC)...

Who will win in a trade war? Sun Tzu reincarnated as MAO 2018 or an orange clown that doesn't read books?

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BY 2050!

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And keynes said we would be working 2 days a week by now. Look how that turned out.

2yrs before the human race will be destroyed due to climate change.

Ok question for dengist then.
If this is the correct road to socialism, then mao was wrong? Are do you refuse mao and the cultural revolution?

Don't bother, revisionists don't even acknowledge Mao. But usually they don't have the balls to actually say he was wrong and will just claim that China's current path is entirely consistent.

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Every socialist leader ever made errors. Mao is not and should never be some infallible God the CCP worships.

China is not Capitalist all land is state owned and is only leased to the capitalist class which itself is under the thumb of the DoP

Map supported creation of a National Bougie and petty boug class(s) to benifit the Proleteriat the DoP and the state

STATE OWNED LAND IS ACTUALLY EXISTING SOCIALISM

MADE BY GUCCI GANG

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shitpost flag

Can you tell me how that image contradicts what I said?
Capitalist enterprise both foreign and domestic must follow the edicts the the CCP And the DoP any deviation can and has resulted in arrest land seizure massive fines etc

Mao*

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It was just a shitpost, but I think the hammer and sickle next to a gucci store is fucking nauseating for reasons that should be obvious

Capitalist enterprises in France must follow the rules and regulations set by the french government. Your understanding of socialism is literally Fox News tier "regulations equals SOCIALISM!!11!" retardation.

China is not a dictatorship of the proletariat. Xi Jinping is a hundred-millionaire, not a proletarian in any sense. The over 100 billionaires in the NPC are not workers, they are bourgeois.

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Yeah, for less money. China's stock market is already down 30% from peak and the trade war hasn't even started yet, meanwhile ZTE will completely collapse on Jan 1st after the sanctions against them go into effect. The "institutional advantages" and "mobilize" comments are significant, because it is an open admission that China's capitalist economy is state controlled. The CPC isn't kidding anybody. They are desperately trying to hide the fact that their economy is state capitalist and like all capitalism it is completely collapsing. Look at how they've begun to censor the "Made In China 2025" program which Trump used as a justification for tariffs, and how they are forbidding most media to talk about the stock market crash or a trade war.

It's such a stupid tweet, Trump doesn't want to conquer China. His entire goal is to bring jobs back from China (a process that is un-imperialist, even if it is done for selfish reasons) and maybe protect the SCS's international waters (dependent upon how willing other countries are to buy American products). At the very most he might move to sell F-35s to Taiwan, but this extremely iffy because America's military doesn't trust Taiwan's military which is too independent of their influence. Meanwhile Trump (at least right now) is trying to deescalate the Korean peninsula, which means US forces leaving the region.

This is what isolationism is all about.

What seperate it from a capitalist market economy is that the most actual harm that can be delivered to capitalist enterprise is fining or public shaming
Meanwhile under China's social Market economy these business's if they are found to be acting in a Anti-People / CPP / Reacionary manner they are imprisoned and their business / Land seized thus discouraging them from acting in a negative manner
It's also important to remember the market isn't even THAT Big a factor within the Chinese economy as over 70% of all land / business is still directly controlled by the public
I never claimed it was socialism
I called it the Social Market economy

Wealth is not the same as class

I hate china for being imperialist, greedy and aggressive dog eaters.

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Or covered up because scandals make their owner (the Chinese government) look bad. Meanwhile in America even just saying the word nigger is enough for a CEO to get fired by his own board of directors, as is the case with Papa John's pizza chain recently.

state capitalism is capitalism, a state monopoly for profit is no different than a capitalist monopoly for profit. This can be seen in all the Chinese SOEs that offer some sort of stock, security, or bond sales to the general public aka private investors creating capitalism.

yes, it is

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South America
Mid East
Asia

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China doesn't support a single of the countries you mentioned. If China gave at leas a little bit of support Venezuela and Syria would not be in terrible states they are. They could have very easily bailed out Venezuela and saved Syria. They could also help fix Cuban infrastructure, but instead they abuse Cuba for oil.

It is also insanely funny that you mentioned Palestine, because china is is reals biggest investor.

ejinsight.com/20180201-china-to-overtake-us-as-biggest-investor-in-israel/

China is imperialist in Siberia,Africa and Latin America.

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None of claims you make are valid, and they can be easily checked. Cuba has very ageing infrastructure, and like I said chinese are abusing them for oil. Venezuela is bogeyman for all things left. China doesn't do anything to support them, hence they are in terrible shape they are. China only trades with Iran for money, nothing anti imperialist with that. China doesn't support Palestine, it invests billions into Israel, saudi arabia and other countries that bully palestine.

Chinese are doing irrecoverable damage there, you brainwashed capitalist piece of shit.

It's also interesting how you ignore chinese abusing of Cuba for oil, exploitation of Africa and investments into israe

When a Nation is being embargoed by the largest capitalist hegemon on earth and a fair chunk of its vassals yes it is

Also

You didn't give a single source, but only talk with abstractions like ' china politically supports venezuela'

So what? When did 'blah, blah, blah' ever accounted for anything? Why not do something that can be seen with an eye like fix Cuba's infrastructure, help stabilize Venezuela's economy, and fuck of from Siberia instead?

You can't just magically stabilise a countries economy overnight unless you give Venezuela such a massive economic recovery boon it WOULD Become a Chinese vassal state
China is friendly with Cuba and Cuba has also followed in China's footsteps in adopting a social Market economy

Btw, trading with countries under the attack of US imperialism doesn't exclude China from itself being imperialist (or having imperialist aspirations). Why should I believe they're not simply trying to create their own little satellite states to be able to compete with the US for hegemony in the middle east, south america or africa?

China's activity in africa is blatantly imperialistic. They're exporting capital to poor countries where wages are extremely low and there are a lack of regulations on working conditions, safety, environmental laws, etc. and they've started to establish "humanitarian" military bases to protect their investments. This is exactly what western imperialists do.

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Venezuela has been in crisis for 4 years now and capitalist have been posting pictures of decaying Cuba's infrastructure as long as I have been alive. And yes, country as rich as China(which is rich thanks to foreign investments to begin with) could easily fix Cuba and Venezuela in a year or so. Just send advisers to teach Venezuelans how to run state companies, share couple blue print designs so that they could work in factories and do couple of small things like that, and that's it.

The fact that Cuba is doing market reforms, is only showing that china is non supportive and Cuba is in desperation.

yeah but there are actually countries where a 36 hour work week is common today. as well, Keynes was talking about capitalism, but China can achieve it through socialism.

so the CCP can just take all their shit and redistribute it

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Kek. Some background: China is buying up a lot of gold on the market right now.

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They'll need a lot, the US has something like 5000 metric tonnes of it on hand.
I honestly didn't know that there was that much to go around.

one thing to note, the US has the world's biggest gold reserves IIRC, they got it through plunder of course

this cartoon has a serious lack of labels. Like what the fuck is that brown thing in the middle? What country has that stipy flag? What's the green-white thing that they're throwing? Just utterly horrible

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Haha.
Still, the few labels that exist are completely silly. You'd expect anyone to recognize a bar of gold, as it's a practically generic cultural symbol, which is used even in children's books.
And the Chinese flag. Who the fuck doesn't identify that or is so blacked out on current events as to not guess? Why does the illustrator think he needs to spoon-feed to his American audience this knowledge? Wouldn't leaving out these small details encourage someone to think "Gee, I don't quite get this, but perhaps if I look up that flag from a fucking book or on the internet…"? Or has "Mark Hill" completely given up on his compatriots, not expecting them to be able of reading a book due to not having a basic atlas in their home, or being lazy and illiterate enough not to even fill this particular hole in their upbringing via the internet?
/confused_rant

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wrong, it's clearly a stick of butter, because Americans are fat

Xi visit displays China's diplomatic philosophy
globaltimes.cn/content/1111578.shtml

Chinese President Xi Jinping visits the United Arab Emirates and four African countries July 19-28 and is set to attend the 10th BRICS Summit in South Africa. In a showcase for China's diplomacy, Xi is making his first overseas tour since re-election, visiting emerging countries and developing nations.

Beijing has long been aware that developing nations are China's natural partners in international affairs. And these nations realize that their cooperation is getting more important or even irreplaceable.

From the Middle East to Africa, countries there have obtained respect and equality from cooperation with China, which rarely exists in their relationship with developed nations. Despite Western publicity for China conducting neocolonialism in Africa, African nations don't buy it because they can feel China's sincerity in equal, win-win cooperation. An attempt to drive a wedge between China and Africa won't work.

Rising out of poverty, China has developed technologies and experiences that tally with the needs of other developing countries. African cooperation with China focuses on development and solving problems as they don't have to tussle over political ideas. That's what African countries urgently need.

US President Donald Trump's talks about "shithole" African nations suggest that Western elites probably hold some discriminatory attitudes toward Africa. In comparison, Chinese society deems Africa as a continent full of opportunities and countries there as diplomatic partners. Chinese sincerely believe every African country deserves to be treated cordially and valued.

Chinese leaders at all levels visit other developing countries more often and China attaches much importance to cultural exchanges. China's strategic choice of cooperating with other developing nations is being displayed in all dimensions.

Chinese cooperation not only brings African countries technology and funding, but prompts the West to renew its understanding of Africa's importance. For a long time Africa was nearly forgotten by the US. If it were not jealous about China-Africa relations, the West would continue overlooking the continent, considering its links with Africa are about education and charity.

No other major power than China has underscored that its vote in the UN Security Council represents the developing world. Western powers either still treat African countries as their colonies or think them too far away for modernization efforts or national politics. Despite a huge African American population in the US, it doesn't enjoy China's affinity with Africa.

China never wants to turn its cooperation with other developing nations, including those in Africa, into a zero-sum game or exclusive relationship. China is happy to see Western countries give more importance to Africa than China and invest in developing nations to push humanity forward.

All work and no play taking a toll of Chinese life
globaltimes.cn/content/1111603.shtml
"I need more leisure time," my friend told me when she was about to hand in her resignation and leave the internationally reputed company where she had been working for over five years. Work-life balance has increasingly become the criterion in judging the quality of life.

The bad news: The average leisure time of Chinese people dropped to 2.27 hours per day in 2017 - only half of that in Europe and the US, according to the 2018 Green Book of China's Leisure. The report suggests that residents in first-tier Chinese cities have the least daily leisure time: 1.94 hours in Shenzhen, 2.04 hours in Guangzhou, 2.14 hours in Shanghai, and 2.25 hours in Beijing.

While people strive to climb up the social ladder for better life, they ironically end up with less time in their personal life.

Yearning for a long holiday, they act in the exactly opposite way - 24/7 ready for any commission from their boss, and fearful of missing any text or email. A second after getting a message from the commissioning boss, they find themselves sitting at the computer in their pajamas during a highly-anticipated holiday. "If I don't work during leisure time, I risk my job," my friend told me, complaining about her hesitation every time she intended to turn down her superior's request to work overtime.

Exploitation of employees' leisure time is one of the most direct ways for companies to make more profits, especially in emerging economies. It has increasingly common for staff to be stuffed even without being on the rota. Companies need to survive, and bottom-tier employees are those who need to pay the price.

Frankly, despite repeated calls for more leisure time, working beyond one's normal job hours is unavoidable during a country's development. This is how market economy works. It takes time for a country to progress and offer 100-percent labor protection. Weisure - a neologism coined by US sociologist Dalton Conley to describe an age where work can be as readily done from bed as from an office - should not become the norm.

An increasing number of Chinese people have gradually lost their enthusiasm for work after years of tired work, and decided to leave metropolises for smaller cities in pursuit of a work-life balance. An enhanced awareness of rights is a sign of societal progress. This will push companies to strike a balance between labor rights and their yearning for profits.

The Green Book suggests that China should consider adopting a four-day (36-hour) working week by 2030 and extending the length of the Spring Festival and Lantern Festival holidays. There is no doubt that a country is stepping into a higher developmental phase if it is starting to put more emphasis on people's quality of life.

Can we just dispel any rumours that china is not acting in an Anti-Imperialist manner now?

This is true across most developing nations and even some developed nations that are particularly class cycled such as S-Korea Japan Burgerstan Etc this does not speak to some fault inherent in the Chinese model
Also it can be incredibly vague what Leisure time even counts as depending on the study

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Assisting African Nations in becoming more technologically and economically independent is not Imperialism infact it is the exact opposite

What about the Chinese "humanitarian" military base conveniently popping up close to where they're exploiting some of the cheapest labour on the planet?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_naval_base_in_Djibouti

Djibouti Narrowly avoided becoming a victim of the west backed Arab Winter of 2011
it makes sense that to prevent it from happening again it would align with an Anti-Imperialist Power (China)

I see, exporting capital to exploit some of the lowest wages in the world because of rising wages and implementation of stricter environmental regulations at home, then building military bases close to where the investments are, but it's anti-imperialist.

More like 90 hours a week for $4 an hour.

There not "Exporting capital" their simply Helping these Nations to develop productive forces which in the long Run makes them less Prrone to Imperialism
Also Imperialism is not "When the army does things"
Thats like saying the USSR having bases in the WP states was Imperialism

they literally are

No they arent
They simply assist these nations in building productive forces
and while yes those projects may be used as part of these nations market economy
This is still crucial as it allows them to develop capitalism and get closer to Socialism

do you know what "exporting capital" means?

Investment / Loaning of capital into another Nations Industry Agriculture or trade Service sector etc?

Right, which is what China is doing in Ethiopia for example.

feels good man

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The "Loans" are given at a 0% Interest Rate and in certain cases are simply out-right forgiven once issued
Its a Loophole as to allow China to provide these countries with economic support and to assist them in building productive forces
this is not the same as the Debt Trap which is Western / IMF loans which forces economic restructuring and ultimately enslaves them with debt

Imperialism is defined by intense export of capital. China isn't anywhere close, and its BRI projects don't even qualify, there is terrible rate of profit on infrastructure.

Also See….

Asides from the obvious Geo-Political benefits these investments (Mainly in Infrastructure and heavy industry) Provides little to no economic benefit to china

Source? Wikipedia says:

These factories that are built result in a larger industrial Base improved technologies and higher Salaries for the Proles within these countries
Before these countries can begin a transition towards socialism they need to develop capitalism towards a sufficient stage

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Tell me how a nation like Ethiopia that is all but in name still basically feudal is supposed to transition to a socialist economy without a Transitionary stage (Social Market)?

Let's hope they nuke each other to shreds, fallout wasteland is preferable to this "civilisation"

The imperialist countries deliberately prevent larger industry past a certain point from developing in those countries, holding them back. Now I ask you: if this factory deal is going to give such sweet imperialist profits to China, then why wasn't the USA or France building it instead? If these trains, dams, power plants, bridges, and roads that China is building are all so exploitative, why didn't the imperialists beat them to the punch?

Moving the goal posts? I don't think Ethiopia could transition to socialism tomorrow (not that I'm very well read on Ethiopian politics or anything) but that is not the question we were discussing. My claim is that what China is doing in Africa is incredibly similar to what you would call imperialism if it was westerners doing it. And your attempt at a justification for the exploitation of cheap labour in Africa by the chinese, is the same exact line western liberals use to justify sweatshops, etc. in, for example, India. I think that's pretty telling.

Still not gonna provide a source for the claim that all the loans are at 0% interest?

Different imperialists invest in different places for different reasons? I don't know why this strange line of reasoning is necessary though. Chinese capitalists are investing in, for example, Ethiopia because they can make higher profits there thanks to the very low wages (translation: higher rate of exploitation), they explicitly say so themselves: ft.com/content/a97492d4-cc5b-11e2-9cf7-00144feab7de

Only the destination – Ethiopia – was surprising.
>Helen Hai, the Chinese group’s vice-president who oversaw the Ethiopian move, says the gradual appreciation of the Renminbi and rising labour costs are squeezing margins and forcing many Chinese shoemakers to consider similar moves.

Also, I think your assumption that westerners aren't at all involved in this is incorrect. China is not the only country taking advantage of cheap african labour. And also the shoe manufacturer that article was about makes shoes for western brands.

they also literally used "prole" as short for proletarian lmao how fucking moronic can you get

Americans! Explain yourselves! What is this, can't even name Mexico or Canada or UK????

youtube.com/watch?v=kRh1zXFKC_o

Read capital

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America is allergic to those. Trains = Communism. So China is not imperialist.

In China, cockroach farmers are cashing in on creepy critters
youtube.com/watch?v=0TptADISb2g

Next time you run away from a #cockroach roaming your kitchen, just remember that some 300 million of this universally hated insect are being raised and fed in east China’s #Shandong province, as a special way to consume tons of kitchen waste in the city
facebook.com/PeoplesDaily/posts/2016164538435353

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