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I actually didn't even know but the entire message of the film is class collaborationist; a worker's uprising is stopped when the workers and the boss realize they just have to work together.

Reminder that this doesn't makw it bad.

I agree but it still isn't "essential Zig Forums viewing"

OP here. I took both of the already existing charts, tried to boil them down to what I viewed as the 25 most essential films, and put them on my own chart that I made on Topsters. I know that it isn't perfect, but I just want to see what you guys think.
For those who want to see the original charts:

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gremlins 2

A Very British Coup.

Favorite films of Zizek:
openculture.com/2015/01/slavoj-zizek-names-his-favorite-films-from-the-criterion-collection.html

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You know, John Carpenter himself has explicitly had to intervene and say that They Live is about capitalism and "not the damned Jews", slightly paraphrasing.

"THEY LIVE is about yuppies and unrestrained capitalism. It has nothing to do with Jewish control of the world, which is slander and a lie.”"

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Ever find it odd how these threads never have lists of films from the USSR, PRC, Cuba, DPRK, etc?

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There's a good youtube channel that uploads quite a few DPRK movies.
youtube.com/watch?v=sMuTicTRMvI&list=PL4D1A9E71A707338B

There are some USSR movie at times. That said movies from those place are not easy to get so what the fuck.
The last one I saw was a comedy about this garage cooperative, really funny stuff.
Made an apparence in the last season of The Americans

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Of all those countries only the USSR really had a cinematic tradition that was appreciated in the First World. Czechoslovakia did too but most of their acclaimed films were anti-communist.

Oh, and I must add to that how brainlet-ish it is to interpret the conspiracy in the movie as a direct reference to a real-world conspiracy, rather than acknowledging how it mirrors the obvious messages and sentiments behind real-world advertisements and business practices. If they'd spend five minutes of whatever processing-power their brain has, they'd notice how the actual conspiracy is actually useless, as the basic messages hidden would still be there, less literally hidden, with or without the aliens.
The entire movie is nearly literally screaming out the rhetorical question: "If twisting and manipulating our culture and our societal comprehension for personal gain is wrong, why is it only wrong when some literally foreign and alien entity is up to it for profit, when someone's at it every day?"

This shit really asses my burgers

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You'll be able to find a lot of soviet cartoons on YouTube. Usually just in Russian but occasionally there are English subtitles.
youtube.com/watch?v=b4Y1d4a4r-Q&list=PLpRBkxy1E2MEEFemgQaN_7cAi9x5kHiuH
I really like this cat. It reminds me of my Chinese girl cartoons and instills good socialist values.

youtube.com/user/ClassicCartoonsMedia/videos
The official channel of Soyuzmultfilm. They've got a lot of weird stuff on there. Sadly it's all in Russian and uncaptioned. You'll have to look elsewhere if you want to understand any of it. A lot of meme-worthy material though.

So we should put some effort in and find good copies. There must be places like rutracker or whatever where we can find them.

Again, this is partially just chauvinism and censorship of socialist cinema. So we should do some research to find the good shit. Stuff that's made in socialist countries AND also promotes socialist ideals.

What do those looks like? "Ooga booga hierarchies are great and people aren't equal"?

More like anti authoritarianism.

reading>viewing

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Can anyone speak to the quality of DPRK cinema? If it is at all in the vein of Mao' poetry, I think I'll forego it - what I've seen thus far was pretty trash

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The Czech films you mean? Well I've only seen a couple myself, but my understanding is that they criticize the (alleged) forced conformity and obedience to the socialist authorities. They're not all inherently anti-communist, but some of them were banned in Czechoslovakia.

What did they mean by this?

they have really limited resources and little no experience, it's impossible for them to make a good movie.

Zig Forums thinks They Live is about jews even when Carpenter said it's about capitalism. And I haven't seen Gattaca

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They have some good movies. You don't need much money to make a good drama or certain kinds of historical war movies.

Because it is.

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I wonder who is behind this post

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ESSENTIAL SOCDEM VIEWING

Replace bowling for columbine with farenheit 9/11 and that second one is perfect

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I know that saying this is probably gonna make me sound like a massive Zig Forumsack, but I just have to ask: why is France so much more degenerate than other countries?
Seriously, this is the country that gave 50 Shades of Gray the French equivalent of a PG rating.

Circus (1936)
youtube.com/watch?v=YbVTBdx8524
The Fall of Berlin
youtube.com/watch?v=t-hZam8dXHU
Mission to Moscow
youtube.com/watch?v=PMtkwpfcOKo
Thälmann
Sohn seiner Klasse
youtube.com/watch?v=AUQvL6StmIw
Führer seiner Klasse
youtube.com/watch?v=0_j67aJY7k0

Should definitely add The Parallax View to this list. Good conspiracy film. Not directly critical of capitalism, but highlights the relationship and melting together of government of corporations.

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I have in the past thought I should watch this, but had forgotten. Thank you for reminding me.

Pulgasari is a masterpiece and essential viewing.

Alot of those movies but properly understood.

add No End in Sight(documentary), is by the same guy who did Inside Job, its about Iraq and Bush's era of politics but its still relevant because nothing has fucking changed in Iraq nor the rest of middle east

What in Come and See is even remotely Zig Forums? What the heck?

add Libertarias. spanish civil war flick from the perspective of the anarchists.

Concerning Violence (film about African decolonization based on Fanon's Wretched of the Earth)
Metropolis, A Film (2012) anti-civ film that focuses on Seattle

Okay lets see what we got here. From top to bottom.

Only four of these are pol movies, the rest are leftist. This whould do fine as a leftypol viewing list.

you know who its really meant for

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I don't know if he's been mentioned yet on any images, but shohei imamura. it's not stricte in-your-face political cinema but it's got this obvious anti-capitalist undercurrent which doesn't ever need to be said too straight forward - it's coming just from that how focused he is on capturing horrors of reality (but often there's also just this unexpected weirdness sneaking itself in when you least expect it or moments of existential beauty and cynical black humor, which make his style so distincitvely unique) he's got some of the best anthropological analyses of human condition there are and they're always done through the lens of the japanese working class. of 12 of his films that I've seen there wasn't one that wouldn't be at least very good and every single one tackles a different topic/issue/concept while maintaining the feeling of being ingrained specifically in post-war capitalist japan (with the exception of 1 feudal film, which might be actually my least favorite of his) with problems specific to that culture yet at the same time universal when looked at from distance

that said profound desire of the gods is maybe the most beautiful film ever made with the eel and the insect woman being amongst the most life-affirming and bleak that I've seen respectively. this fucking director man

Thoughts on this movie? I watched this last night, thought it was gonna be garbage but some moments were funny.

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Great post. Post-war japanese cinema was indeed fantastic.
If you haven't already, you should watch the Human Condition trilogy. It's about a leftist japanese and his struggle in the japanese military during ww2

yes I have, it is great and kobayashi is an excellent director as well, but he wasn't really that politically motivated as an artist even if he described himself as a socialist (I mean, human condition clearly is political, but it's basically a mirror image of the source material from what I've read - kobayashi doesn't add to it much from himself), later we have harakiri, samurai rebellion (which doesn't even really feature any kind of rebellion, but it's still an amazing, gripping film) and strike a life for nothing (which indeed is weakest of the 3, but way overlooked either way imo) but each of those 3 is "merely" an anti-samurai film. they masterfully show how bad the times were back then sure, but concering the subject they're nto really relevant to the current reality at all. kaidan is a gorgeous arthouse film and insanely overlooked existential the fossil are both masterpieces of cinema imo, but neither has anything political going on

meanwhile what I was trying to say with imamura is that his mind was clearly a goldmine of ideas worth being analyzed by and fully relevant to critics of capitalism and the films even seem to have been created exactly for that purpose - he not only tried to show the "dregs of society" as faithfully as possible, but also this way tried to force the viewer to make the sense of lives of those people and provoke thoughts (a man vanishes is probably the last film of his that anyone should watch, but it perfectly shows his attitude that I'm describing)

Hey, I made this. I'll try and take the suggestions itt for adding/editing. So just tell me if there are any other glaring issues or films that should be added.

Honestly I had forgotten that that's how Metropolis ends. I had merely remembered the scenes of sacrificing workers to industry, bourgeois gaze scene, etc. But yeah you're right, I'll remove it.

Whoa

It's by the In The Loop guys right? It seemed like it'd be damn funny.

Pretty good comedy in my opinion, it's Soviet-themed so it raises more public interest in commie stuff.

I feel cultured because Ive seen 80% of these

Why isn't there essential Zig Forums anime viewing?

That's actually le cornman

Add the Threepenny Opera

Which anime do you suggest?

I'm surprised no one is talking about Sorry to Bother You. It was directed by Boots Riley, an open communist and member of the Progressive Labor Party, and tells the comedy/sci-fi story of a telemarketer.

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have you seen it

Yeah, I saw it twice. My liberal friends were weirded out by the big twist at the end, but I loved it.

I thought it was hilarious and I particularly loved Zhukov.

You say the director is an open communist. How much does this impact his film making?

Snowpiercer is Zig Forums

Throughout the entire movie the telemarketers are organizing a union and strike against their bosses. The main villain is an Elon Musk/Jeff Bezos type billionaire who runs a company that houses, feeds, and clothes workers and then outsources them. The movie also subtly touches on how Capitalism absorbs symbols and gestures of rebellion and then markets them. This is the director's first movie but he is in a hip hop group since the 90s called "The Coup" which provides most of the soundtrack that has plenty of anti-capitalist messages.

just saw "Young Karl Marx" pretty good bio pic, same with "Anarchist from Colony" and "Bomb City". I haven't seen Detroit yet but i hear it's very anti-cop

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Pretty funny, Zhukov was brilliant

This has spoilers for the "Sorry to Bother You." I highly recommend you see it and these spoilers will ruin very important plot points and surprises.

So I've seen this movie twice and I really liked it. I was curious what people were saying about a movie with such strong leftist themes and I've been a bit disappointed. A lot of the reviews really latch onto the racial element, which I do think is important, and the whole "white voice" thing. But then that is all they really see. And to be honest I really felt like that took a back seat to the unabashedly critique of capitalism. A video that I watched because of my autistic curiosity (youtube.com/watch?v=iBpObyRG__A)
really rubbed me the wrong way with its analysis and explanation (and this video is particularly shit because it doesn't even really analyze it just summarizes). He presented the slavery company, WorryFree, like a typical lib in a way the movie fucking mocks. It is straight up slavery and in the movie the news media talks about it in the they both have a fair argument. The people who say its slavery because its slavery and the people who don't who also own the slaves. And he goes with that same explanation and implies the main thing that was wrong with "lifetime contracts" was that WorryFree could be forcing people to sign them.
Totally over his head that this hellscape of an economic system is that fucked.

And a lot of other reviewers see the white voice thing as a symbol about how hard it is for black people to get ahead in today's society. That is correct in some ways but the movie kind of even puts reading down by explaining that a white voice isn't even real and white people don't have it either. It is the voice of someone who is economically safe. And that I think is really what the movie from a fucking communist is getting at. That idea juxtaposed with the precarity that everyone lives in that society (not just black people), really ties the magical realist world he makes back to our own. It really is not that different and it really should not be hard for people to see what Riley is saying.

The first few scenes showcase the precarity of our neoliberal tortured existence perfectly. It begins with Cash overselling himself for a job because of desperate he is for work. It shows him living in his uncles garage and him driving through an abysmal city with tons of homeless people in his shitty car. He goes to a hellish office job and has to go through the "we're not workers and boss, no we're a team!" spiel. He goes to the bar to escape and there are the bits of magical realism elements sprinkled in with the TV shows and the fancy elevator, but it is not at all different from the America we live in today.

Anyone else seen it and have thoughts? Would love to discuss further.

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Garbage film that I think is one of the worst waste of good acting in a long time. Nothing about it was even remotely funny to me, not even in terms of low brow humor. fuck that film

Defintely, hell I’d say it’s straight up zizekian in its conclusions, has this been mentioned yet?

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Yeah I nutted simultaneously in every part of my body throughout watching it. Seriously, it’s an overtly Marxist film, and one that also manages to be super, super entertaining. Fucking bravo Boots, this is ourguy now.

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Except the ending. The ending was some class collaborationist shit

To anyone who hasn't seen it you should, it's pure leftist KINO.
It'll make you want to mask up and bomb British parliament as soon as you're done

No clue, if anything it's really strong commie propaganda

As much as I hate the Corn Man I legit rooted for him to kill Beria

Kill la kill, Gurren Lagann, Planetes those are the ones off the top of my head

No. No it fucking wasn’t. In fact it was the the most modern Marxist position to take.

It was bullshit

This, seeing that miserable piece of shit get a bullet has to be one of the satisfying moments in film history.

That wasn’t the point you dumb shit. It was that the train itself was capitalism, and that past revolutions failed because even if they appropriated the productive forces of capitalism, they failed to destroy the capitalist mindset and way of thinking that would ensure a transcendence of it. The people in the train for the most part couldn’t even consider the possibility of life existing outside of the train(capitalism), but the polar bear was the evidence for hope of its possibility.

If the capitalist mindset was created by its mode of production, then it would be abolished if the people appropriated the train. If anything the train symbolized the state, with one class oppressing other. The guy in the movie didn't seize state power, he let it all burn.

But the point isn’t that the mindset isn’t created by the mode of production(train and engine), that’s recognized, but that taking control of the engine(mode or production) doesn’t just automatically destroy the train. They seized the engine, AND destroyed the train. And doing this would, by our ideological lens, seem absolutely catastrophic, like a horrific train crash.

Just watched a movie called The Employer (2012). Was about five people that applied for a job that then were kidnapped locked in a room and had to kill eachother to be free and get the job. Actually seems it could create a little class conscious mindset from being mad at the characters actions. I'm not sure if this was intentional or not because it's not very good.

Fine, I guess I'll have to watch the film again sometime.

was just about to post this

Kaiba is a surreal look at late stage capitalism
Tokyo Godfathers is about a group of homeless people
Psychopass is about a futuristic fascist like surveillance state

Basically it’s shown that actually seizing the ‘engine’ for revolutionary purposes would be a very self sacrificial act, one of great misery but necessity. Otherwise you’re just sitting comfy and becoming the new bourg lord. It’s shown this way when Evans sees that the engine is only able to keep surviving from literal child labor(it’s not subtle admittedly), and in rage, wrenches his hand into the very mechanism to stop it, thereby completely stopping the engine. I do indeed suggest a thorough rewatch!

They truely are the scum of the world

grapes of wrath (a communist classic) should be on all those leftist movie lists

so should snowpiercer. which is about class uprising.

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Spartacus is absolutely a Communist depiction of WW2
It was written by Dalton Trumbo who was a memebre of the Communist paety since the early 1940s
I suggest you watch this video explaining it:
youtu.be/X9burn_GapE

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