When you kill so many people you leave an indelible trace on the planet's...

Brandon Scott
Brandon Scott

when you kill so many people you leave an indelible trace on the planet's geological record and trigger a mini-ice age, but socialism killed muh 100 gorillion

bbc.com/news/science-environment-47063973

Can we just declare capitalism's death toll at "limit of 1/x where x tends towards zero"? We know about those meme-format calculations, but is there a serious attempt at a tally? There's an unimaginatively-named Black Book of Capitalism which seemingly doesn't do a thorough job.

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Easton Nelson
Easton Nelson

Genghis Khan made the Earth cooler by killing everyone.

Clearly the path towards ending Global Warming is mass-killing.

Aiden Baker
Aiden Baker

Maybe the drooling retards who've spent their entire lives screaming about how a made up number is big without once asking "big compared to what" will be swayed over by a cold analysis of the facts
There's no point in a tally. Capitalism is making the planet uninhabitable and wiping countries off of the face of the planet. It doesn't matter. Facts don't matter.

Carter Sullivan
Carter Sullivan

what was smallpox

Jace Edwards
Jace Edwards

this is like saying "what was typhus"

Luke Richardson
Luke Richardson

im not sure smallpox engaged in mercantilist capitalism

Jaxon Cox
Jaxon Cox

i didn't understand the argument

Grayson Sanders
Grayson Sanders

the majority of deaths in the americas were from the smallpox epidemic they accidentally spread before the formal colonization took place.

Parker Robinson
Parker Robinson

well i guess that does make it a different situation

Eli Taylor
Eli Taylor

Not really sure you can pin the genocide of Americans in the 15th and 16th centuries on capitalism. Feudalism was still the dominant mode of production for the majority of colonial powers at the time. Also smallpox did most of the killing, which was initially spread accidentally.

Gavin Stewart
Gavin Stewart

There's an unimaginatively-named Black Book of Capitalism which seemingly doesn't do a thorough job
No shit, that book isn't about trying to figure out the death toll of capitalism but about individual events and experiences of people being fucked by capitalism. As for an actual death toll, I remember once seeing one which imo was probably the most accurate of all but I don't have it saved or anything like that. They put it at 205,000,000 people, will try to find it.

William Robinson
William Robinson

I think it's this one
guerrillaontologies.com/2014/05/attempting-the-impossible-calculating-capitalisms-death-toll/

Samuel Myers
Samuel Myers

the colonization was pursued in the interests of capitalists

Liam Stewart
Liam Stewart

Asking the average joe to take stock of the present or conjecture the future is too much. The past is our best shot at imparting information on these dullards.

Isaac Bennett
Isaac Bennett

Clearly the path towards ending Global Warming is mass-killing.
Considering the slow death of consumerist capitalism, it's entirely possible that it reverts to its imperialist stage, Porky just might take that advice.

Adrian Hughes
Adrian Hughes

there was an attempt here a couple years ago, this was the last revision I saved

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John Evans
John Evans

Translation: blame the white goyim
(muh juice)

Luke Powell
Luke Powell

Anglos (the only white people) are bad but let's not racialize this.

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Carter Brown
Carter Brown

The team says the disruption that followed European settlement led to a huge swathe of abandoned agricultural land being reclaimed by fast-growing trees and other vegetation.

Thank god it means the coming social collapse will slow down climate change.

Jace James
Jace James

15th century feudal empires colonizing America is evidence that capitalism just doesn't work
Come on now

Kevin Anderson
Kevin Anderson

Besides being a moot point from any humanistic point of view, there's the very simple matter that the settlers would have killed the Amerindians all the same, had none of them perished of disease. They were earmarked for annihilation, and the early liberals and Founding Fathers didn't hide the fact about it.

Common pratice is to peg the age of discovery as pre-capitalism. The American colonization and the slave and spice trades allowd for the first massive accumulation of capital, which kickstarted capitalism proper with the industrial revolution. It was a factor as important, if not more so, than the land enclosures.

(the only white people)
Losurdo argued that, after the rise of unified Germany, this racial idiocy was revied to include the English, their American cousins and the Germans as members of the Teutonic or Aryan race, and that's how a certain 20th century tragedy was born.

Well I didn't say "doesn't work", at least by its own premise. The real problem is that it works, in as much as it quite literally requires human sacrifice, and counts that as a good thing whenever people aren't paying attention.

Landon Peterson
Landon Peterson

Death toll of capitalism is effectively infinite considering violence is literally required in order to sustain the growth of capitalist economies.

Alexander Miller
Alexander Miller

accidentally spread
reported
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_disease_and_epidemics#Disease_as_a_weapon_against_Native_Americans

Jack Gomez
Jack Gomez

Ah yes, the actual races: Black, Tawny, and Swarthy.