Communism was a total failure

Why can't you sheep admit that Communism killed way more people than facism and just fails at everything. For example,
jalopnik.com/what-it-was-like-to-buy-and-own-a-car-in-the-ussr-1783136956
You had to wait 10 fucking years to get your car after you pay for it. But once you get it it was a peice of shit. So can we have a dicussion or are you going to ban me like a sensitive faggot?

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LOOK AT THIS DUDE

I also take all my historical facts from online comics.

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You know these problems started mostly in the 1960s, 1970s after the Kruschevs market reforms. So kys, fag.

sources: Solzhenitsyn, Conquest, my ass

Pathetic

Mate if you're gonna shitpost, we're gonna reply with shitposts.

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FTFY

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The "no the Communist countries weren't living hell on earth you fucking idiot" starter pack.

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Why would we ever waste time arguing with you when you dump the equivalent of human feces on our board?

its probably him tbh, no one else would have those saved or be such a faggot

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After the first few days of euphoria, the workers returned to work and found themselves without responsible management. This resulted in the creation of workers' committees in factories, workshops and warehouses, which tried to resume production with all the problems that a transformation of this kind entailed. Owing to inadequate training and the sabotage of some of the technicians who remained many others had fled with the owners the workers' committees and other bodies that were improvised had to rely on the guidance of the unions…. Lacking training in economic matters, the union leaders, with more good will than success, began to issue directives that spread confusion in the factory committees and enormous chaos in production. This was aggravated by the fact that each union… gave different and often contradictory instruction.[14]

If you didn't want to join the collective you were given some land but only as much as you could work yourself. You were not allowed to employ workers. Not only production was affected, distribution was on the basis of what people needed. In many areas money was abolished. People come to the collective store (often churches which had been turned into warehouses) and got what was available. If there were shortages rationing would be introduced to ensure that everyone got their fair share. But it was usually the case that increased production under the new system eliminated shortages.

In agricultural terms the revolution occurred at a good time. Harvests that were gathered in and being sold off to make big profits for a few landowners were instead distributed to those in need. Doctors, bakers, barbers, etc. were given what they needed in return for their services. Where money was not abolished a 'family wage' was introduced so that payment was on the basis of need and not the number of hours worked.

Production greatly increased. Technicians and agronomists helped the peasants to make better use of the land. Modern scientific methods were introduced and in some areas yields increased by as much as 50%. There was enough to feed the collectivists and the militias in their areas. Often there was enough for exchange with other collectives in the cities for machinery. In addition food was handed over to the supply committees who looked after distribution in the urban areas.[23]

The USSR:

had the 2nd fastest growing economy of the 20th century the USSR is 2nd after Japan Source: artir.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/captura-de-pantalla-de-2016-05-26-10-15-23.png

had zero unemployment have continuous economic growth for 70 straight years. see: Robert C. Allen's, From Farm To Factory Source: citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.507.8966&rep=rep1&type=pdf (review of book here homepages.warwick.ac.uk/~syrbe/pubs/FarmtoFactory.pdf ). The "continuous" part should make sense – the USSR was a planned, non-market economy, so market crashes á la capitalism were pretty much impossible.

had zero homelessness. Houses were often shared by two families throughout the 20s and 30s – so unlike capitalism, there were no empty houses, but the houses were very full. In the 40s there was the war, and in the 50s there were a number of orphans from the war. The mass housing projects began in the 60s, they were completed in the 70s, and by the 70s, there were homeless people, but they often had genuine issues with mental health.

end famine have higher calorie consumption than USA Source: artir.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/compar1.png?w=640

. You can read more about the post-1941 famine history in Nove's An Economic History of the USSR 1917-1991. There were food insecurity issues, especially when Khrushchev et al. majorly fucked up with trade and resource dependence on the west, but no famines after the collectivisation of agriculture in the early 1930s (except for in the Siege of Leningrad).

end sex inequality Source: en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Soviet_Union_(1977,_Unamended) Equal wages for men and women were mandated by law, but sex inequality, although not as pronounced as under capitalism, was perpetuated in social roles. Very important lesson to learn.

end racial inequality Source: theguardian.com/artanddesign/shortcuts/2016/jan/24/racial-harmony-in-a-marxist-utopia-how-the-soviet-union-capitalised-on-us-discrimination-in-pictures

make all education free Source: revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/PubEdUSSR.htm revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/anglosov.htm unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0000/000013/001300eo.pdf

99% literacy Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Likbez

have most doctors per capita in the world Source: marxists.org/archive/newsholme/1933/red-medicine/index.htm The Soviet Union had the highest physician-patient ratio in the world, my notes say 42 per 10,000 population, vs 24 in Denmark and Sweden, 19 in US. In this document: sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0735675784900482 You can open it without paying with sci-hub.cc

eliminate poverty Source: gowans.wordpress.com/2011/12/20/we-lived-better-then/

double life expectancy Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Union

After the October revolution, the life expectancy for all age groups went up. A newborn child in 1926-27 had a life expectancy of 44.4 years, up from 32.3 years thirty years before. In 1958-59 the life expectancy for newborns went up to 68.6 years. This improvement was seen in itself by some as immediate proof that the socialist system was superior to the capitalist system be 25 years away from reaching parity with Western world This is kind of a counterfactual – the transformation of the USSR to capitalism began a long time before 1991, so trying to figure out what Soviet growth would look like if it hadn't become capitalist requires that we root out the fundamental cause of the change to capitalism. And we can't even use US economic stats either – the mass-privatization of the Soviet economy and the sudden influx of cheap labour for Western capitalists obviously had an effect on the US economy. But then again, even a 1% difference will stack up over 25 years.

Now let's take a look at what happens after the USSR collapse:

GDP instantly halves Source: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Soviet_Union_GDP_per_capita.gif

42% decrease

40% of population drops into poverty Source: wsws.org/en/articles/2003/07/unpo-j28.html Article cites a 2003 UN report.

Holy fuck that is awesome. Found something good to read. Thanks user.

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ALSO MODS YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED FOR ANCHORING THIS THREAD. HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO CONVERT POLYPS BY ANCHORING THE THREAD YOU AUTISTIC FUCK

That's also false

I'll ask this one more time, how do lynch the mods?

Fuck off, retard. There's no debate here or anything to refute, just some driveby bullshit written by a faggot.

If you're so horny for converting polniggers then go to their fucking board and get to it, you stupid bastard.

Based.
Redpilled.

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And idiots like you still think this is failure.


Also lol at your source. Most people in the USA don't even have enough money to pay off a car, so they buy it on a loan and pay interest on it. If the economy goes tits up, and bankruptcy happens, and they can't pay off their car loans, they lose their car. At least in the USSR, when you bought your car, you owned it.

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"like South Korea or Singapore" resorted to economic planning, is what I was supposed to say

PS that Nazi cola image is a work of art (literally), these are real though, someone needs to edit the image

Oh well I guess I said it didn't I

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there we go please use this version in future UwU

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not an argument

not really true, Khruschev never made market reforms and living standards continued to skyrocket until about the mid 70s at which point they were still improving but at a slower rate. breadlines only occurred in the late 80s due to Gorby's reforms and in other socialist states because of debts.