Were there really cults of personality around any of these three niggas? if there were i doubt they would any different than the ones that form around current politicians.
Were there really cults of personality around any of these three niggas...
Jaxson Miller
Jayden Ramirez
dude, a few grandmothers decorating their christmas trees with Stalin and Lenin's portraits still exist.
Angel Collins
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Kevin Wright
Modern capitalist politicians have personality cults but they are different in nature. Communist personality cults were at least not anti-intellectual, you were supposed to internalize these guys' theory and read their works, while personality cults of politicians in capitalism is when Obama is woke on Twitter or wears Apple EarPods.
Jaxson Powell
What do you mean, like manufactured ones? There were clearly cults of personality around Stalin and Mao especially.
Jack Hernandez
You don't have to be a capitalist to know that there were a quite strong manufactured cult of personality around them.
Blake Long
Both of them don't seem manufactured by Mao and Stalin personally, more like by their middle men outside their inner circle trying to suck up to them, but they certainly took advantage of it at times while at other times condemning them.
Some people also really admired them. I also believe that the average North Korean genuinely really admired Kim il-Sung and Kim Jong-il but that's probably because they were exposed to very favourable information about them.
Brayden Ramirez
This is gonna sounds stupid, but what's wrong with a cult of personality? Literally every society has them, Iran has Khomeini, China had Mao, Turkey has Mustafa.
David Carter
The problem is not personality cults of Mao, Stalin or the Kims. The problem are personality cults in tiny Western ML parties around ridiculous faggots who haven't achieved anything but are in fact sometimes even grifters
Gabriel Williams
If they are good leaders and have written good theory it's okay, but if they are shit like the one around Gonzalo then they are damaging.
Seriously, everybody who calls himself Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Gonzaloist is discarded by me, nailing dogs against lampposts and cutting peasant's fingers off is beyond fucking retarded
Isaiah Foster
Nigga the Peruvian military was killing anyone who was speaking Quechua. They mowed down an entire prison population when the PCP was organizing in there. You're smart enough not to believe the bullshit about Stalin, Mao, or the Kims so why believe it about Guzman?
Aiden Murphy
Cults of personality are so stupid. I know in the case of Stalin it wasn't him personally that started a personaloty cult of himself but what even is the point of this shit? What purpose does it serve? It makes socialism look bad, why do we have to worship anyone? I get that a few statues here and there (especially if said individual is already dead) is fine but do we seriously need the face of our leader on every single stadium, notebook, and tower? No we don't, socialism is for the masses by the masses, I think the best example of how a socialist responded as to why he didn't form a personality cult around himself was Sankara referring to the entire population of Burkina Faso by saying "there are seven million Thomas Sankaras".
Ian Jenkins
Because the others actually achieved something while the Shining Path caused legitimate grievances amongst the peasant population. It was a shit praxis. That the Peruvian military was a fascist piece of shit doesn't change that their praxis was bad
Jeremiah Reed
Rosa Luxemburg failed in Germany, George Habash failed in Jordan and Palestine, Che failed on two different continents, and Chavismo is teetering on the edge and about to fall, but I don't see you shitting all over them you fucking hypocrite.
Aiden Miller
The Chinese people honestly loved Mao, and they still do, he didn't have to build a personality cult, he saved China from absolute barbarism and since he first took power each generation has had a significantly better life than the last. That isn't a personality cult, that's just deserved praise for being an incredible leader that did incredible things for his people.
Cooper Phillips
This, for every criticism of Mao, bourgeois or communist, the fact of the matter is that Chiang Kai Shek and the warlords were absolute dupes and were never going to lead China out of the era of humiliation.
Adrian Parker
Maybe because none of them made a fucking massacre of 69 innocent people
Adrian Nguyen
the PLO and Lebanese National Movement were doing retaliation attacks against Christian towns in Lebanon that had higher body counts than Lucanmarca. Every revolution is going to have excesses, you're a middle class dupe if you believe in a good and clean guerilla warfare.
Jack Morales
Is this even a serious question? Mao and Stalin were the most widely-adored human beings in history since Christ or Muhammad. Stalin in particular recieved widespread admiration far beyond the CCCP's borders.
Elijah Collins
The post-50's left was a mistake
Josiah Jenkins
it's mostly just people admiring people who had done good things for their countries
Ryder Rodriguez
Up until very recently George Washington had a rather big one. Look at some of the old marble statues of him, basically portray him as divine.
Jason Mitchell
me on the middle
Gavin Sullivan
yes /spoiler/ they deserved it /spoiler/
Juan Wilson
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you need the proper helmsman to lead the revolutionary masses, otherwise it will succumb to opportunist and compromises to keep the current system afloat
Angel Murphy
also not to mention that these leaders had to basically put its people first, Juche stresses this that leaders should "worship" its people
Samuel Bell
Don't burgers have massive, quasi-religious hard-ons for muh Founding Fathers, and treating the Constitution as sacred writ?
Nicholas Sullivan
Kinda, yeah
Connor Jenkins
What makes you think that?
James Stewart
Samuel Roberts
Why post that when you can post the fluff?
William Taylor
Also, Kim Il Sung himself wrote in With the Century:
>Around the time the song Star of Korea was being spread, my comrades changed my name and began to call me Han Byol … meaning "One Star". It was Pyon Tae U and other public-minded people in Wujiazi and such young communists as Choe Il Chon who proposed to change my name into Kim Il Sung. Thus I was called by three names, Song Ju, Han Byol and Il Sung. … I did not like to be called by another name. Still less did I tolerate the people extolling me by comparing me to a star or the sun; it did not befit me, [as a] young man. But my comrades would not listen to me, no matter how sternly I rebuked them for it or argued against it…. It was in the spring of 1931 when I spent some three weeks in prison, having been arrested by the warlords in Guyushu, that the name Kim Il Sung appeared in the press for the first time. Until that time most of my acquaintances had called me by my real name, Song Ju. It was in later years when I started the armed struggle in east Manchuria that I was called by one name, Kim Il Sung, by my comrades. These comrades upheld me as their leader, even giving me a new name and singing a song about me. Thus they expressed their innermost feelings.
Luke Moore
wtf i love ☭TANKIE☭ grandmas now
Landon Miller
Ah yes, because the Soviet Union and China didn’t succumb to revisionism in the slightest.
Jack Edwards
corbyn?
Asher Thompson
the new incarnation of the Village People is gonna be fucking badass
Parker Howard
This is a good thing though?
Why wouldn't you celebrate the comrades who helped raise you up out of peasantry?
Ayden Brooks
Current politicians are not a good example to follow.