Red planet

btw the site is pooping right now and I cannot post funny corn memes

Keep shilling.

We should definitely use those services though, just not as the main base of operations.
There's also the simple concern of leaving your discussion platform in corporate hands. They are in control of what people get to see, even without having to engage in outright censorship. The homepage has been designed with their interests in mind, no one knows exactly what goes into "the algorithm," etc. This is a weapon we shouldn't underestimate.

Please no reddit. A forum where pdf files can be shared is beter since no one on reddit reads any theory. I know it might be silly but without that we get people who say shit like "©ommunism is when you give stuff for free" and "that wasn't real socialism".

I made an account but given how slow it is right now unsure of what is best to post about. Maybe book reading threads?

Gamefaqs is still active (even has a politics section)

I can only imagine politics on gamefaqs is abysmal. I have an account on resetera even tho I just lurk sometimes, and their politics threads are often mindbendingly stupid. There are particularly a couple of loud users who seem like the worst kind of liberals. However, I’ve noted that there has increasingly been a presence of left wing positions. Especially in regards to things like Venezuela, suddenly there was a burst of random anti-imperialism amidst the brow beating about how satanic Maduro is. I think the expansion of left wing media on the internet is creating a counter to the hegemony of liberal and right wing culture, but it’s still relatively small and soft.

Just contributing to say that I would love an active forum but dont know if I am willing to commit to posting regularly before it takes off at least a bit. I prefer forums over chans and obviously over social media and would especially love if we could have a leftist forum that isn't infested with the radlibs of social media but is also free of *chan edgelords that think any kind of compassion or considerate behavior is "being cucked."

There are plenty of Socialist subs that haven't though. I don't follow FullCommunism to know what they did to give reddit an excuse, but Quarantines on reddit seem really just random to me (then again I've only been using it for like a year, so maybe I just don't know)

Besides, we just have to be the one thing we should always, always, always always always be first and foremost: organized. Mods keep a list of regular posters, Discord channels keep the community engaged outside of reddit, and like I said we have more than one sub. Main sub got banned on some trumped-up charges? Make a new one, go on Discord, DM everyone on the list, tell them to avoid mentioning the subject that got the main sub banned for a few months.

Here's another argument for using leddit: we can build a forum or website of our own, but first we have to build an audience. We use a platform where people already go (like we used Zig Forums), organize the community, grow, and if shit hits the fan we just tell everyone we're moving to our own website.

Building an userbase on reddit and chans, and them moving elsewhere, is easy. Building an userbase on an isolated website is difficult.

The reddit left is extremely toxic, and if we did make a subreddit then we would end as a smaller version of r/stupidpol and be banned from every other left wing sub for posting on it.

Only good sub is r/stupidpol
A few others are OK, but most subs are all infested with idpol and the moderators ban people for no reason.

stupidpol still focuses exclusively on idpol hate tho, obviously the closest you get to actual leftist discussion but still it's set back by its own purpose.

This is true, but honestly? 4,000 likeminded leftists with their own community is not nothing. r/stupidpol is too focused on one issue to develop its own culture and style, but if you have something more all-purpose, it's a start.

Think of how influent SA irony people ended up being when they couldn't have started with much more than that. Think of how these weird small tumblr communities came to dominate. If you have a place to develop your thoughts, styles and arguments collectively and an eventual social media presence, things take off.

no thanks buddy

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It's so-so, mostly liberals, some some troll-level conservatives, a few leftists (like me). It's a decent place to practice shooting fish in a barrel. It's certainly a lot less reactionary than Youtube etc.

lol what losers, they get offended by "be gay with you dad" jokes

This post gave me cancer

The only thing offensive about being gay with your dad is how played out it is.

It doesn't let me make an account without entering an email address.

just enter one big US military base in Syriagsdfh@sdgshdflkg or some other gibberish

lol accidentally triggered the filter.

Got it. Thx

2 days and I have already been banned from the discord

The medium of the webforum honestly has no functional reason to be dead, and I see some survive.

I wanna make something clear - Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, etc. - these are all decidedly garbage for having long discussions. Absolute trash. Stuff gets shoved to the back, what can be said is limited, stuff gets filtered. Discussion dies even in groups with a sizable membership. That's useless. That's shit.

We discussed starting a community for the BR left, which is completely fragmented right now.

The unfortunate conclusion – at least on my part – is that the format most conducive to discussion is the forum, but unfortunately, it has fallen out of favor due to the herculean task of having to login with a password. All the most popular platforms now are so utterly inimical to dialogue that I can't help but think it's deliberate. One-way proselytism instead of two-way debate. Rhetoric disguised as dialectics. Reddit immediately comes to mind, Facebook is the biggest culprit, but Twitter is the worst one. Their UI, the information dissemination, the way groups operate, everything favors echo chambers and petty bickering rather than dialogue.

On the other hand, anonymous boards are mainstream now, even if it pretty much boils down to cuckchan alone. It's infinitely better than social networks, but as we know too well, it still has shortcomings when it comes to civilized debate. I proposed some heterodox measures to fix its shortcomings, the biggest one of which is the impossibility of banning anyone.

For example, how about an anonymous board that requires registration, but instead of requiring some faggy-ass e-mail confirmation, it requires, for example, solving 10 captchas, but anonymity is enforced, with the account being used solely for the sake of moderation? Well-meaning users won't mind doing it once, but trolls, bot farmers and false-flaggers will be severely discouraged. Is this a worthwhile pursuit.

Another possibility is the automatic generation of a unique user ID instead of using a traditional login-and-password account. The user just saves it on Notepad, so they can keep using their account when the cookie expires or somesuch. It's not that big of a difference from accounts, operationally, but I think it would be more palatable to the current internet user, which is used to just start using any service immediately on their cellphone, since they're tied to their phone number, which acts as an invisible, unobtrusive account system, which even allows the services to ban them.

Perhaps a forum would work if it had a pared down, simplistic interface? A large number of functions in a site's UX isn't an issue on desktop, but cripples phoneposting. If a forum's UX fostered pick-up-and-go posting, or at least the illusion of it, it could work.

Much to my chagrin, the current big social network is fucking WhatsApp, of all things, and the damn thing is nearly worthless for any conversation involving more than two parties. So I thought, what about a forum with a double frontend? Works as a regular forum on browsers, but has PC and phone apps which are dumbed-down, pick-up-and-go posting interfaces, akin to WhatsApp. Phoneposters wouldn't even need to bother with registering an account or even writing down a unique ID, so it would snatch the ADHD crowd.

Thoughts, suggestions, struggle sessions? Gibbe feedback pls or i report u HUEHUEHUEHUE

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You're wasting your time trying to create a platform that is not compatible with the established browsing habits of the people you're trying to organize. My advice is still the same, go where people are, be part of their conversation, don't try to innovate where no innovation is necessary.

did anyone use anarchist news?

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And here I was getting excited…

Hello, I started leftist.site, good to see users promoting it, as I am hesitant to.

If you check out the forum, rules, mod guidelines, etc. you will see that I am against banning people. I don't want IP bans unless they're absolutely necessary.

For the email, you just have to type in something that looks like an email: [email protected] I found the piece of code that checks the input of that field and I was tempted to set it to accept anything (even blank) but I am afraid that might break it or mess with security. But for some reason the forum software requires the email, even after I have removed all the email options, like sending emails, displaying emails, etc. Anonymous posting is allowed on the Meta subforum, so if anyone has trouble with it they can post a message.

I see your point, but I don't think phone screens and phone keyboards are conducive to long texts and discussions. Phones are fine for chans, because there's even a 2000 character limit. That is why the forum isn't a replacement for a chan, I think they both have their uses. What isn't good is when you try to make one into the other.

It wasn't there in the beginning, but someone suggested it should be added for registrations to avoid spam bots.

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To everyone, this is just beginning, leftist.site is only a forum and IRC server right now. I'm hoping it can grow into something more as more users join. I have some ideas in mind, but as I wrote on the forum, I have a broken arm at the moment and after some typing and being on the computer the bones in my right hand get sore and it becomes uncomfortable to type. After writing this post my hand is sore, but I just wanted to chime in and let everyone know that I am keeping an eye on it and I do want you to be confident that I won't abandon it so easily. Had an xray/check-up today, have to have the cast on for another 3 weeks, but after that I'll be ready to do more work.

As they say, watch that space.

I ain't going to something that has "left" in his name. The fucking 2019 and people still don't understand.

If you check the first thread I made it clear that leftist.site doesn't have to be final and I asked for suggestions for the name and domain. I cannot stress enough that nothing is set in stone, I want this to be a collective effort. If you have a better suggestion, please share.

I also had the same thought, of 'moving' away from the 'leftist', 'socialist' label because it became a bad word. But then I thought, you know what, our world-view is informed by leftist, anti-capitalist theory. No need to hide. No need to 'lure' people in and then spring on them 'haha! you've been hanging out with communists all this time!'

But maybe I misunderstood your point. I'd like to hear more from you, care to expand?

Mate, recaptcha exploits people, so as a leftist forum we shouldn't have it. I mean it's so dehumanizing to click fucking cars over and over, and then it tells you you got it wrong anyway. Besides, there are other captchas out there. How about what Zig Forums uses?

He said on leftypol

You only have to solve captcha once, when you register.

Ha. Didn't even catch that.

Once is too much. So it's going to stay then?

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