Capitalist Media supporting social democracy

Christian Walker
Christian Walker

I have seen alot of the mainstream media do thins like criticise wars, criticise money in politics, side with social democrats sometimes, talk about corruption in certain businesses, promote certain reforms etc

now obviously I know that social democracy is not the establishnment and i know that the mainstream media does criticise social democrats quite alot like CNN and MSNBC. but its still confusing. I know social democracy is just welfare and reform and not the actual socialism that i want. But it is still confusing why so much pro worker and anti corporation stuff is in the liberal media. Can someone explain why sections of the ruling class would work against their own profit making interests like this?

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James Scott
James Scott

This is going to be a bit of a hot take but they probably just do it because social democracy isn't a threat to capitalism and only makes capitalism better for the workers which causes the workers to not fight against capitalism.

Jacob Johnson
Jacob Johnson

It's channeling support away from revolutionary thought.
You might even notice that there is a psyop pushed by faux news that kamala harris is "far left" and supports "socialist programs".
They're turning the socialist enemy into a neoliberal strawman on purpose, so that socialism doesn't even get negative media recognition.

Jaxon Perry
Jaxon Perry

thats what i originally thought but this does still very much hurt corporate profits and power

i have seen michael parenti talks where he talks about how the social democrat side is never brought up in corporate media and that social democracy and social democratic options arent even shown as an option. obviously Parenti isnt a social democrat but he was pointing out how right wing the "liberal media"was

but now its ten years later since he did those talks on the media and the liberal media is getting more and more like that

Angel Price
Angel Price

I get that but idk why they would even want to do it in the first place when theyve been supporting the exact opposite for so long. I understand making the workers happy with healthcare but i dont understand getting money out of politics or tighter regulations or more corporate accountability

Nicholas Perry
Nicholas Perry

Capital is more and more willing to compromise as it feels its institutions are being threatened by the course of history.

Nathaniel Davis
Nathaniel Davis

and the liberal media is getting more and more like that
That’s how you know they really are starting to feel threatened. But, let’s also not exaggerate, the whole point of the embrace of identity politics by establishment democrats is to use nominally left-wing cultural elements to sell far-right and center-right economic ideas.

The energy that dem shills are putting into Kamala Harris’s candidacy shows that this trend is going to die hard. Either a social democrat like Bernie will pull the upset unlikely given the anti-democratic party structure of the dems or they will run another mediocre candidate that will hand another term to Trump.

As much of the criticism of the suc dems like Bernie and AOC must be made. We must always keep in mind that the Democratic Party is not a social Democratic Party—it isn’t based in the labor movement like the Labour Movement is in Britain. Shitty European social democracy at least has some basis in the shitty trade union leadership that workers there elect. The Democrats are *literally* the left-wing of Capital in the sense that they are a capitalist party funded and lead by capitalists who are merely somewhat more “progressive” on certain issues than the Republicans on certain issues and not even all of them

Joshua Mitchell
Joshua Mitchell

You're setting a pretty low bar here.
If they didn't talk about corruption in corporations it would be suspect.

The thing about propaganda in American media is that it has to be subtle. They rely on actually good journalism most of the time, or at least enough of the time to attain public trust. It's genuinely less heavyhanded than, say, Pravda circa '00s or something like that. So most of the time, there's some effort to appear unbiased but within the framework of mainstream politics - to represent public grievances to the extent necessary to avoid any accusations. It's not purely beholden to the state on everyday issues.

Mostly they operate independently, until there's an Iraq and someone above decides they shouldn't.

Jeremiah Green
Jeremiah Green

Because it sells and it gets people's attention and it even feels a bit good to be the reporter writing the notionally pro-worker story (with appropriate balance to the case for financial interests of course!) even if it will change nothing.

Gavin Edwards
Gavin Edwards

now obviously I know that social democracy is not the establishnment
Except it is and that's why capitalist medias support social-democracy.

Camden Cox
Camden Cox

Social Democracy is basically a way to keep the workers and the masses complacent. (For now anyway)

Landon Young
Landon Young

Capitalist Media supports social democracy? I don't think so. It supports fascism for profit and total control. They push Identity Politics to divide the country and hamper relations to crush all attempts at organization, as they always do and always have in the past. See the way the media reported on Seattle WTO protests, total lies, total smears, all to benefit the police state.

Call it Social Fascism.

Kevin Baker
Kevin Baker

They want you to vote Democrat because they don’t like Trump, but I’m sure they have all confidence that the Democrats won't actually implement any kind of social democratic regime. The Dems always act like quasi-socdems when they’re not in power and can’t actually do anything.

I still think that social democracy is beyond the pale for the American bourgeois political establishment, though it doesn’t threaten the very existence of capitalism.

Jaxson Martinez
Jaxson Martinez

What the fuck. Is this some psyop thread? The entire last two years has been anti-communism and anti-left in the face of the Russia conspiracy.

The media is in no way pushing left, its not advocating any type of left change, it's pushing war, asking "how we're going to pay for it" for everything, demeaning and destroying left wing candidates.

What the fuck are you all smoking even participating in this thread saying the media pushes any type of narrative left of neoliberalism.

If anything, media is pushing right wing. They don't want you to have ANYTHING except confusion and doubt.

Charles Wood
Charles Wood

Democrats have absolutely every reason to keep Trump in the White House. The Democrats and rich friends are making billions on Trumps policies, they're getting deregulated. Media spent how much time advertising Trump the last 2 years and now the Russian investigation says there was no conspiracy. That just helps Trump, and they manufactured it.

Leo Lopez
Leo Lopez

billionaire media supports a form of capitalism that masks its exploitation
Hmm I wonder why

Oliver Lewis
Oliver Lewis

Warren
SocDem
Jfc generations of speaking in polemics has really rotted leftoids' brains.

Eli Anderson
Eli Anderson

now obviously I know that social democracy is not the establishnment
this is debatable, we do not have social democracy in the US however that is the trend in other areas of the developed world and there is a growing sentiment for socdem in the US. The media sees this and is capitalizing on it just as the republican news media is capitalizing on the horrors of Venezuelan style "socialism"

But it is still confusing why so much pro worker and anti corporation stuff is in the liberal media

Mcdonalds employes making $15/hr isn't "pro worker" at all.

Jordan Reyes
Jordan Reyes

Social democracy is like bono doing live aid but that’s how you fund your entire social spending budget

Camden Thomas
Camden Thomas

PSL is a social democratic party.

Samuel Campbell
Samuel Campbell

Tbh people need to understand that ideology under capitalism doesn’t operate as this intentionally engineered thing disseminated consciously through mediums like news media. Rather it’s simply a lens through which people observe the world, which colours their view of it and biases it towards liberalism. So when some random CNN reporter says some socdem shit, or even when a billionaire says it, it’s usually not a secret plan to pacify the proles. 9 times out of 10 it’s just what they actually think, because they do perceive issues with he status quo and want to see “ethical” capitalism. Ideology doesn’t turn everybody into a hardcore neolib, but it does limit their concept of what’s possible to the liberal spectrum.

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