Trans vs cis women representation

trans women are not women, they're mutilated abominations

My point though is that a lot of these trans women act like men in many recognizable ways, and it's rare that I would mistake their behavior for what I would expect is normal for typical women. It's not me making some statement about biological essentialism, but a frank assessment of how a lot of these trans women actually act. I don't really care what they do, but it's stretching credulity to pretend that they're just like other women generally, and I notice a difference with trans women who make a tougher effort to pass than some guys that just go deep into the fringest internet culture they can find.

So if a trans woman made a deep effort to pass, both physically and behaviorally, then they would women?

2/10 I replied

They would not be functionally women in many key ways, unless they were biologically altered to a degree currently not possible. If it were possible to change ones DNA and create an artificial womb, then yes, it would be possible to turn a man into a woman. There would be no good reason why such a thing would be necessary, but it would be possible and it would be valid. They still would have had the socialization of a male and probably act in a distinctively masculine fashion. And that really gets into the whole futility of the ideal man/woman and the idealism inherent in trans ideology, and why it's such a silly notion.

That a lot of these trans women are obviously men and act like obvious men, with male patterns of behavior, just drives home the reality that their transition is towards some imagined role of a pretty princess or something silly, rather than anything like actual dysphoria, and that dysphoria only exists because we have some fucked up notions of what people are supposed to be and some fucked up ideologies. It's not easy to train every trans-identifying person in the finer details of philosophy so that they can come to this conclusion for themselves, though, and they're in a sea of bullshit pushing them towards all manner of sexual vices so I don't think therapy is terribly helpful here. It's a shit situation all around and I feel sad for these men who get caught up in the ideology and the echo chamber.

That's a completely American thing, there are probably less transwomen in European ML parties compared to the population average - which is partly because some of these parties have been involved with iRL Cold War politics and the Eastern Bloc states, while mostly allowing gender reassignment and gay marriage, weren't particularly fond of the flamboyant culture many trans people engage in, it was seen as a sign of Western subversion like Punk music.

On the other hand, you are likely to see transwomen in liberal or even conservative spaces in Europe.

While conservative gender essentialism is retarded, complete social constructivism is equally idiotic. Years of nonsense gender have tried to push this notion of "nature vs. nurture" which is a false dichotomy and terminally un-materialistic, the truth is more a unity of sex and gender in a reciprocal relationship just like the mind can't exist without the body.

I think you don't have to be a dick to trans people or mock them but you should compromise on an materialist outlook, and you can be an ally to trans people with admitting that sometimes their doctrine of gender constructivism goes to far and makes a mockery of the left.

nonsense gender studies*

Also, my final take is that if you criticize lipstick feminism, you must also criticize the ridiculous flamboyant and oversexualised milieu amongst trans people walk. All these lolicon posting tranny chaser ultraleftoids on Twitter deserve to be excluded from the left.

There's a difference between normative claims about biological sex and descriptive claims about how biological sexes operate and express themselves within societies (i.e. gender expression). However, I don't follow a nature vs. nurture outlook on biological sex until I can be convinced that you can be born a healthy male and undergo a successful surgery to transfer your biological sexual features to that of a healthy female. Anybody can become a woman, but you cannot nurture yourself to becoming a female if you understand what I mean. The concept of womanhood/manhood is a unity of sex and gender but when transsexuals say that they have transitioned their sex I can't be expected to take it seriously. I believe transgenders but not transexuals who believe, not just on an emotional or psychological level, they are actually males, not just men or masculine-presenting.