You are on point and every artist or art-leaning person is terminally afraid of historization - contemporary artists are basically the Francis Fukuyama of the creative world, they think the complete meaningless is the final synthesis of the creative history of human creativity. One modern artist lost his shit as I tried to historizise the type of art he was creating, the same way capitalists loose their shit when you tell them capitalism is just a specific era of history.
I mean, think about it: A fucking medieval master would be criticisized if he made the same artwork that was made 100 years ago, considering the development of art during the middle ages. Yet we have people adhering to the same philosophy that's around since the 20s in 2019, this is nothing but stagnation.
Levi Perez
Without a doubt there are really valuable modern artists out there but it feels like 95% are crap.
Henry Edwards
Not to my knowledge no
I'd be quite happy to be corrected, but I sincerely and most strongly doubt the possibility of it happening
Jaxson Richardson
I've been in the contemporary art world for more than ten years now. I've definitely encountered a fair number of the kind of people you describe, but at the same time I also know people who are really, amazingly, autistically keen on talking about the ideas that underpin their work, the sociopolitical context it inhabits, and the techniques and materials that make it happen. "lol express urself" and "what's the next thing we can break?" are people who never quite left the first year of art school.
Object-oriented ontology was the last theory I heard of being in fashion, but I never really got into it. Then there was relational aesthetics through the late 90s and early 2000s.
There is definitely a lot of that.
Isaiah Peterson
Proletariat art: good Bourgeois / reactionary art: should be destroyed
Lucas Reyes
Care to expand on these topics for the benefit of our audience
I must correct myself here, there is most certainly utility and benefit in exposing the structure and design of the mirror capital uses to gaze at and admire the specular image of its own reflection
Leo Green
Like I said, I don't know enough about it to really talk about it, but it's basically trying to upend human-centric thought. Inga Thorsdottir and Wu Shanzhuan's Things Rights (1994) might be a prototypical example, reworking the universal declaration of human rights to address all objects, human and non-human alike. Nicolas Bourriaud, who I believe coined the term, proposed centering the representation of human interaction as the site of art. Things like Rirkrit Tiravanija setting up noodle bars in galleries and cooking for people and talking to them, creating evanescent social encounters. Some overlap with social practice as well - activism undertaken as contemporary art. imo Bourriaud didn't go nearly far enough but I'm too drunk to get into it right now. I'll be back later if you guys want an artfag to bloviate further.
Brandon Brown
Yes, please
Christopher Lopez
Hmmm
Anyway, in my opinion I feel modern art gets too much hate, I like art that's different and expressive. Like postmodernist art or as King Lobster, Jordan Peterson says "Neo Marxism".
