/leftpol/ is dead

Elijah Wilson
Elijah Wilson

/leftpol/ is dead. It has been taken over by /pol/ and "NazBols", dressing up racist, Nazi, misogynistic, etc. propaganda as "leftism". Space has spaced out and the volounteers have abandoned the board. Space actually tried to shill his other imageboard (one of two) here: . The fucking gall on that guy.

Pic related are the threads that are up right now, that the mods actually thought was a good idea to leave up.

If you still post over there, stop and let it die. Last thing we need is for /pol/yps to infiltrate leftist discussions and have people think those kinds of people are welcome.

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kfausa.org/interrelationship-juche-idea-marxism-leninism-view-juche-idea-marxism/
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Michael Moore
Michael Moore

Space's and the other mods completely laissez-faire stance had allowed this and is telling that some anarchist still are delusional about what kind of society they are walking in.

And yeah, it's mostly /pol/ these days.

Logan Parker
Logan Parker

/leftpol/ is dead
Good.

Nathaniel Bell
Nathaniel Bell

"This board = Bad look at these four threads!!!!"
You probably shouldn't try to lie to people when you can immediately just go there and see that this isn't the case
The board is much slower then Zig Forums so obviously the shitpost threads get to the top a bit easier

Also 99% of the replies in the /pol/yp threads are…People telling them to fuck off

Brody Foster
Brody Foster

and is telling that some anarchist still are delusional about what kind of society they are walking in.
Space and the mod team aren't anarchists. They just want to meme. Anarchists wouldn't allow NazBols to run rampant.

four threads
you can count twelve in the screenshot

You probably shouldn't try to lie to people when you can immediately just go there and see that this isn't the case
You can go to the board and see all of the threads from pic related still up. How is that lying?

The board is much slower then Zig Forums so obviously the shitpost threads get to the top a bit easier
shitposts
Hello, space and/or /leftpol/ vol. You fucking outed yourself because that is the same justification space and his band of misfits use to excuse the NazBol and misogynistic garbage on the board, "they're just shitposts lol xD". They're not 'shitposts', they're propaganda, and either you're allowing it because you're too dumb to see it, or because you yourself actually have a favourable view of those positions.

Also 99% of the replies in the /pol/yp threads are…People telling them to fuck off
Now who's lying?

William Green
William Green

I mean, is Zig Forums really "alive"?

Jason Williams
Jason Williams

anarchism can't survive coordinated attacks from groups
well colour me surprised im so shocked im practically catatonic

Aaron Anderson
Aaron Anderson

Pretty sure the initial anarkiddies/pro-r0java people who made it just abandoned it within a month and just increasingly became an unmoderated shithole where retards who get banned for their outright fascism here go to cry and some crossboard posters.
Ideally /leftpol/ would just be deleted and Zig Forums could be ecumenical again.

Nicholas Williams
Nicholas Williams

Caring that the containment board is full of garbage
Why?

Jackson Gomez
Jackson Gomez

Fuck OFF /leftpol/ is for funposting and if you don't like it you can suck my benis. Also all of the threads you posted got anchored besides the nazbol shit which is shitposting anyways GEE it's almost like the mod team did what they had to and you're just looking for any excuse to slam on the board.

Jason Brooks
Jason Brooks

Space and the mod team aren't anarchists.
I know for a fact that Space is an anarchist.
when anarchism fails it wasn't real anarchism

more like catalonic, amirite?

Jackson Torres
Jackson Torres

If you use the failure of an internet board to confirm your anti-anarchist biases then you are either underage or intellectually dishonest. Why does it always have to be a shit-flinging contest? We're never going to move forward like this. Anarchism won't stop existing just because you really really want it to, so why not try to have a more nuanced view or thought-out position on it?

funposting
shitposting
<Nazi propaganda is fun
Go back to /pol/. And if you're not from /pol/, then you have to grow out of the type of humour that relies on disparaging, insulting or victimising a group of people.

Ideally /leftpol/ would just be deleted and Zig Forums could be ecumenical again.
Yes.

Christopher Clark
Christopher Clark

I mean if anyone is honest about what Space is actually like, they'd have no problem believing he's fine with misogyny

Elijah Miller
Elijah Miller

Good. There was no reason to split the boards. All of the freaks when /leftpol/ and look at it now – a schizo haven

Cooper Turner
Cooper Turner

Leftpol is dead but its due to a lack of posting not some /pol/ conspiracy.

I can see the anti sjw left and the non capitalist right reforming into something akin to Nazbol in the coming future.

Soon it will be impossible to continue denying the influx of migrats from the third world only brings destruction this along with the pains of capitalism with bring about a Nazbol imperium
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Camden Kelly
Camden Kelly

Go back to /pol/. And if you're not from /pol/, then you have to grow out of the type of humour that relies on disparaging, insulting or victimising a group of people.

<everything I don't like is pol

Asher Hall
Asher Hall

Tbh the people that fuck with /leftpol/ are pretty dedicated, it’s funny.

John Reed
John Reed

/leftpol/ was created because of the psychotic mods on Zig Forums who have a serious power complex.
Last thing we need is for /pol/yps to infiltrate leftist discussions and have people think those kinds of people are welcome
No, last thing we need is for authoritarian ☭TANKIE☭s to declare that the only acceptable form of leftism is a military dictatorship, and then declare that anybody who disagrees with that view should be executed by the state, and then tell everybody that this belief is unanimous among leftists because anybody who ever questions it will be banned. I'm sure leftism will become very popular then.
Zig Forums needs to die and your psychotic moderators should off themselves. I'll take a place where 10% of posters are /pol/ over a place where the moderators ban anybody who doesn't want to live in a military dictatorship where dissenters are executed.
That laissez-faire stance was adopted because of how trash /leftpol/ was and how many leftists were being banned from here.
mostly /pol/
no it is not, not even close. The thread in the OP is mostly egalitarians who oppose misandry. The fact that you and OP think it is /pol/ and misogynistic to help male victims of DV says it all.

Thomas Rogers
Thomas Rogers

Hey OP that thread about the BPP got anchored/saged because it's shitting on them, not because it's about them. Quit lying. Convenient that you cropped out the comments calling that out.

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson

declare that anybody who disagrees with that view should be executed by the state
I’d love to see the “leftist” utopia you’d found where counterrevolutionaries and bourgeois / reactionary ideology runs rampant. It needs rooted out.

Justin Scott
Justin Scott

Ideally /leftpol/ would just be deleted and Zig Forums could be ecumenical again
Never going to happen. Zig Forums can never be trusted again. I know that the mods here claim that they've changed and claim that they aren't psychotic authoritarians anymore, but after the mass-bannings that lead to the creation of /leftpol/ in the first place, we will never trust the mods here. Especially since every now and then we still get caps like pic-related showing that the mods here have not actually grown up.
Ideally, the mods of Zig Forums would realize how badly they fucked up and how their reputation is irreparably damaged, and any sane leftists still here will move to /leftpol/

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Brayden Sanders
Brayden Sanders

Leftpol is dead but its due to a lack of posting not some /pol/ conspiracy.

I can see the anti sjw left and the non capitalist right reforming into something akin to Nazbol in the coming future.

Soon it will be impossible to continue denying the influx of migrats from the third world only brings destruction this along with the pains of capitalism with bring about a Nazbol imperium

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Nathan Reed
Nathan Reed

sane leftists still here will move to /leftpol/
Top kek, I think you meant to type:
<fascists, liberals and schizophrenics will fuck off to /leftpol/

Owen Taylor
Owen Taylor

everything I don't like is pol

Dylan Davis
Dylan Davis

That poster was a /pol/ack concern troll, not a leftist shitposter.

Colton Barnes
Colton Barnes

That poster was a /pol/ack concern troll, not a leftist shitposter.

everything I don't like is pol

Chase Wood
Chase Wood

Volunteers can see someone's entire post history, FYI.

Hey you know that the general users can't see post histories right? Putting ban messages on posts that are ambiguously sarcastic is counterproductive.

Jace Cooper
Jace Cooper

Left pol is best pol.

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Zachary Gomez
Zachary Gomez

Space is pretty much a MGTOW crypto fash himself.

Eli Cook
Eli Cook

men who are happy being single are fascists!

Isaiah Rodriguez
Isaiah Rodriguez

shut the fuck up roastie

Jordan Rodriguez
Jordan Rodriguez

Not what I said, and MGTOW are not happy being single lol. If they were happy being single, they wouldn't have to broadcast to the world how much they don't need women.

Angel Phillips
Angel Phillips

Anarchists wouldn't allow NazBols to run rampant.

But Nazbols are hilarious.

Lincoln Turner
Lincoln Turner

MGTOW are not happy because they have lost any faith in humanity, not because they are single.

John Walker
John Walker

In that case they would call themselves anti-natalists, not "IM TOTALLY NOT UNHAPPY WITHOUT A CUTE GF :'("

Juan Rogers
Juan Rogers

many mgtow are anti-natalist too. what you are saying is simply not true.

Lucas Price
Lucas Price

Antinatalists have enough faith in humanity to appeal to their rationality and/or sense of ethics instead of organizing mass forced sterilization. MGTOW are simply retarded.

Sebastian Adams
Sebastian Adams

*self sterilization
I'm assuming you meant here?

Caleb Ortiz
Caleb Ortiz

Are you trying to imply that the ban in your img was unjustified? are you really this naive?

Asher Wood
Asher Wood

This board has been a barren wasteland thanks to the tanky nazbol mods for a while now. Every thread is unreadable since every other reply is quoting a harmless deleted message, and if you're not a nazbol, you're gonna get banned.

Matthew Kelly
Matthew Kelly

/leftpol/ are tank nazbol
What?

Jaxson Wright
Jaxson Wright

Go back to /pol/. And if you're not from /pol/, then you have to grow out of the type of humour that relies on disparaging, insulting or victimising a group of people.
Not even defending /leftpol/ here, but you do understand we make jokes like this all the time here, right? Is irony or absurdist comedy just completely lost to you?

Dylan Howard
Dylan Howard

Lying piece of shit. Leftpol is completely overrun by actual nazbols and nazis.

Oliver Hughes
Oliver Hughes

You can go to the board and see all of the threads from pic related still up. How is that lying?
It's like taking screenshots of four anchored /pol/tard threads here and saying, "Look! Zig Forums is fascist!"

Michael Hall
Michael Hall

ultraleftism

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Jackson Cook
Jackson Cook

I've noticed a decent number of "anti idpol" posters here as well, hopefully this board doesn't succumb to dumb internet feuds as well. Should be obvious that "anti idpol" is a dogwhistle, since if the problem was just liberalism then they could just say that. Too many threads turn into arguing over bullshit non-issues

Kayden White
Kayden White

You push idpol, you die.

Brody Richardson
Brody Richardson

It is only good for shitposting

Connor Ward
Connor Ward

implying you need to a anarchist or an ultra to be anti moderator
MGTOW's and fascists generally don't get along

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Evan Jackson
Evan Jackson

I think you completely missed my point here.

Sebastian Wilson
Sebastian Wilson

Based Profit

Jeremiah Cooper
Jeremiah Cooper

MGTOW's and fascists generally don't get along
Communists and communists generally don't get along either.

Carter Rodriguez
Carter Rodriguez

Care to explain how MGTOW and fascism are similar then?

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Jaxson Peterson
Jaxson Peterson

I don't get this one, on one hand it seems it implies it's good they go their own way because the shouldn't take care of black babies, but also it's bad because there's a jew saying it's good to go your own way with a blue pill?

Connor Clark
Connor Clark

for one thing, MGTOWs and fascists are over whealmingly reactionary

Oliver Rivera
Oliver Rivera

autistic thread about /leftpol/ devolves into incel thread
Man i sure missed these

Liam Watson
Liam Watson

lets be real though leftypol is dead ever since the split that caused leftpol to exist.

This is entirely the mods fault for banning discussion of one big US military base in Syria. They should be killed for what they did. This was the best leftist propoganda outlet on the internet and they killed it.

Logan Watson
Logan Watson

petition for a dedicated defeatism thread so faggots like you don't shit up the rest of the board.
ERMAGHERD LEFTYPOL IS DED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
there, saved you the effort of your next 100 posts. now fuck off.

Dylan Flores
Dylan Flores

Define reactionary, from what I gather most MGTOW's don't want to return to any prior state of affairs and actually loath a lot of the traditional responsibilities expected of men in society. Arguably the original futurist fascists weren't reactionary either but I concede that most contemporary fascists could be seen that way.

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Kevin Bennett
Kevin Bennett

/leftpol/ is dead

I WISH IT WOULD JUST FUCKING DIE…… LIKE THE LEFT DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH FUCKING PLACES TO SPREAD THEIR SHIT.

Bentley Ward
Bentley Ward

MGTOW's don't want to return to any prior state of affairs and actually loath a lot of the traditional responsibilities expected of men in society

???? Men want to be be traditionalist men with women doing what ever the fuck they are told to do.

Eli Cook
Eli Cook

Come on dude, the oldest thread in the catalog is from like 2 years ago and it still hasn't been archived. Shit's dead. Time to move on to /r/chapotraphouse

Lincoln Howard
Lincoln Howard

This is entirely the mods fault for banning discussion of one big US military base in Syria. They should be killed for what they did. This was the best leftist propoganda outlet on the internet and they killed it.

The left doesn't have a good argument for anything. They are just as nutty as christian radicals who are just as nutty as larping Not Socialists

Xavier Bailey
Xavier Bailey

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Chase Green
Chase Green

I would be fine with that, i don't know if it is the largest left subreddit(how big is r/socialism?), but along with r/stupidpol it's a nice place to shit on idpol and promote actual far left propaganda, if you are smart and subtle enough, obviously, for example they are pretty aware criticism towards Israel it's dismissed by saying it's antisemitic in the media, but they still won't drop idpol and focus exclusively on class issues. It's a comedy sub, after all.

Jaxon Miller
Jaxon Miller

youtube.com/watch?v=95i2dMoTKbQ Maybe you should try to actually engage with those you disagree with instead of assuming?

Adrian Davis
Adrian Davis

REAL /LEFTPOL/ HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED

Aaron Williams
Aaron Williams

It's not bait, it's the truth. /r/chapotraphouse and twitter are the future of lefist posting.

Luis Morales
Luis Morales

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Brandon Allen
Brandon Allen

ITT: Triggered cuntzis whine about not being pandered to.

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Aaron Cruz
Aaron Cruz

tfw BO was right all along

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Connor Lee
Connor Lee

implying he was
unironically wanting to be moderated

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Nicholas Bell
Nicholas Bell

r/chaptotraphouse
shit on idpol
Pick one.

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Evan Hughes
Evan Hughes

Assholes shouldn't be purged
Yeah, freeze peach even if it leads to capitalism!

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Ethan Bell
Ethan Bell

talking about racism is idpol!

Cameron Cook
Cameron Cook

mention someone non-white
<whoa cool it on that idpol bro

Jayden Foster
Jayden Foster

They do, not directly shitting on it, if they did they wouldn't engage in some forms of it, but they do shit on Israel and understand the bullshit of being called antisemitic for doing it. They also understand female CEOs don't mean shit for feminism.

Carter Rodriguez
Carter Rodriguez

Idpollers detected
reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/7sp3jk/stop_making_fun_of_womens_march_libs/
reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/abyuh6/liberals_i_reject_all_forms_of_bodyshaming/
reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/ah3mqx/we_need_to_have_a_talk_about_ableism/

Henry Collins
Henry Collins

A post from a year ago with 10 upvotes out of the thousand posts a day on the subreddit?

On the podcast itself, they spent like 30 mins shitting on idpol a few episodes ago. And they shit on it every few episodes, especially Amber and Matt. Then again the podcast said that they hate the subreddit on the most recent episode.

Aaron Gonzalez
Aaron Gonzalez

We're not talking about the podcast itself, we're talking about the subreddit and that's been overrun with idpollers.

Isaiah Long
Isaiah Long

This

Levi Flores
Levi Flores

Zig Forums needs to die
I'll take a place where 10% of posters are /pol/

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Justin Robinson
Justin Robinson

The first thread okay whatever
2nd thread is making fun of liberals
3rd thread is a joke, you turbo autist.
We need to have a talk about ableism.
I am just gonna say it. "Big dick energy" is ableist in the worst way. What about those of us that just have regular dick energy… Not to mention our brothers and sisters with small dick energy. I don't need to be reminded of my regular-ass dick energy every day.

Jackson Davis
Jackson Davis

reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/adtjkm/hey_folks_lets_try_not_to_minimise_efforts_to/
reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/8ce1av/hot_take_autistic_screeching_memes_are_bad_reeeee/
reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/8dr9x2/what_are_the_arguments_against_social/

William Nguyen
William Nguyen

first thread
Nothing wrong with this in theory. If it leads to the curtailment of people saying “stupid” or “retarded”, I would be inclined to agree with you.
second thread
The world won’t end if people don’t see “autistic screeching”. I could see how people may not like it.
third thread
They’re literally asking a question

Aaron Johnson
Aaron Johnson

reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/arjjt7/donald_harris_calls_out_daughter_kamala_harris/

Ian Martinez
Ian Martinez

Tbh, it's going to depend on which Chapo you're talking about. The whole thing is personally not my cup of tea, and they're not nearly as radical as what some redditlibs make them out to be, but each has their own opinions on things. For example, Virgil is idpozzed as fuck and will state retarded shit like "idpol created unions" while Christman is unionically the closest male member you'll get to Zig Forums, with Amber being the actual closest member you'll get to being full-blown anti-idpol.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=e-28RP5lk88

Jackson Allen
Jackson Allen

that video
Fuck this is redpilling me. I’m outta here

Connor Brooks
Connor Brooks

that was a sincere post from /pol/, it wasn't sarcasm at all
How stupid do you think we are? Fuck off, no sane leftist will ever trust you retards again. You fucked up when you decided to ban hundreds of ACTUAL leftists just to get off on the power.
/leftpol/ will continue to grow and Zig Forums will continue to die. Your attempt to destroy leftism will fail.
MUH POST HISTORY
Except that when it happened, another vollie admitted that the person's post history was clean. They didn't have any history of /pol/ trolling or anything. Now months later, when called out on their authoritarian retardation, vollies are lying to cover their tracks.

Charles Long
Charles Long

youtube.com/watch?v=-X7OujolUXo

They even shit on standpoint theory.

Nathan Bell
Nathan Bell

lol leftypol is higher than leftpol on that list on the frontpage that i don't know how it works so you are wrong actually.

Brody Turner
Brody Turner

Leftpol is as slow as it has ever been, and the users are dumber than they've ever been. The board is completely lost.

Jayden Watson
Jayden Watson

I stand by though that Virgil should just go or shut the fuck up on most actual idpol topics. Felix is somewhat forgivable because he's known to have been a FYAD poster on Something Awful and is most likely just in it for the banter/ride, but Virgil just states completely unfounded shit whenever he is given the chance to and will unironically play apologist to treating the symptoms of capitalism rather then capitalism itself first, saying that identity politics is a legitimate form of political organizing. Best example of this is around 7:50 in the video here where Virgil starts defending this kind of identity based praxis and Christman has to come in and completely shut him down on it explaining it does nothing but divide people when they actually have to come to the table and address capitalism.

Chase White
Chase White

implying moderation isn't enforcing private property

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Parker Parker
Parker Parker

not using the tools of moderation to cynically enforce abolition of private property

Isaac Williams
Isaac Williams

implying abolishing my posts isn't abolishing my personal property

Jacob Rodriguez
Jacob Rodriguez

I'm sure you see no problems, idpoller.

Yeah, I understand that the moderators have not purged the anti-idpol fans of the podcast yet so you can still find heretical content. The reddit idpollers have still invaded en-masse (there are consistently pro-idpol comments), are persistently agitating for the anti-idpollers to be removed and the moderators appear to be increasingly sympathetic to doing so.

Joseph Mitchell
Joseph Mitchell

It’s critcizing white nationalism as a tool of roasties

Ryder White
Ryder White

MGTOW is idpol.

Jace Lee
Jace Lee

you can just not fuck if you don't want to
i don't know why it needs to be a political stance

Luis Reed
Luis Reed

I'M A LEFTYPOLIST-LENINIST FUCK YOU

Robert Peterson
Robert Peterson

The thread in the OP is mostly egalitarians who oppose misandry
I've been posting on leftpol for a while, and I've yet to see a single example of misandry. The fascist victim complex is stronk on leftpol.

James Collins
James Collins

no it is not, not even close. The thread in the OP is mostly egalitarians who oppose misandry
I mean I guess I shouldn't expect anything valuable from this post after "le ☭TANKIE☭s want everybody to be shit by the military xDD" but this is outright false. The anti-feminist people on /leftpol/ aren't fighting misandry, they are unironic Nazis and NazBols. You are a fucking delusional idiot if you don't see this or you are Space himself shilling for your shitty board. I mean, they are openly admitting it. "I'm an unironic nationalist", "I'm a TradBol", etc. is it how it echoes through most threads and it is ridiculous how this is overlooked by the anarchists (who are now a minority there) while they still going on about how the wordfilter on Zig Forums was like the second Holodomor.

Not even talking about the other issues one could have with the board, like the three or four pedo posters who constantly derail threads by wanting to talk about the age of consent and their perceived "moralfaggotery".

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Ethan Perez
Ethan Perez

Okay? I don't really claim to be consistently anti idpol and I am not MGTOW, I just don't think their fascists.

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Xavier Diaz
Xavier Diaz

Okay? I don't really claim to be consistently anti idpol and I am not MGTOW, I just don't think they are fascists.

Dylan Miller
Dylan Miller

I have seen misandry on /leftpol/ though. It's subtle in the form of oppressive state policies like debtors prisons for men that fail to pay child support.

Kevin Jones
Kevin Jones

Man spreading and fat acceptance are all feminists critics are crying about
Ebin strawman.

Angel Gomez
Angel Gomez

So you are crossposting now?
muh debtor prisons
I mean, dude, you clearly haven't read any feminist theory so you are not qualified to make a "critique of feminism".

Luke Ortiz
Luke Ortiz

You have to read theory to critique it

Yeah I'm sure the Soviet soldiers read Mein Kampf cover to cover and were prepared to verbally debate the Nazis as to the wrongness of their ideology, you faggot.

Liam King
Liam King

ok feminists are nazis

Josiah Stewart
Josiah Stewart

The way they try to make life so much harder for the common man they might as well be called fascist fucks.

Kevin Rodriguez
Kevin Rodriguez

☭TANKIE☭s to declare that the only acceptable form of leftism is a military dictatorship, and then declare that anybody who disagrees with that view should be executed by the state
But IRL

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Brandon Rodriguez
Brandon Rodriguez

untrue

Mason Martinez
Mason Martinez

It's dead because the mod is a psychpathic control freak.

Adam Stewart
Adam Stewart

While that whole board did eventually go to shit because of poor moderation /leftpol/s must be understood in the context of its creation
At the time lots of people (Including me) did think that BO and Vols were getting a bit to ban happy with regards to controversial topics (Discussing Ro…Java / North Syria / pointing out that Assad isn't a socialist / I remember one thread where people were banned for not liking the Iranian goverment etc)

I feel like BO and the Vols have become a lot more slack in terms of ban hammering people and that's good

Cameron Smith
Cameron Smith

Soviet soldiers didn't claim to be "critiques of fascism" while you do. Yet you haven't read on it. You might as well legimitise Steven Crowder as a critique of Marxism then.
Also:
feminists = Nazis
projecting the problems of the "common man" away from capitalism onto /pol/'s Femnazi/SJW spook
My fucking god I'm glad that your containment board exists.

Liam Rogers
Liam Rogers

Ha ha, kill yourself leftypaul. Go starve in north korea you gay niggers

Jeremiah Hall
Jeremiah Hall

Typical /leftpol/ poster

Chase Ross
Chase Ross

Go on /leftpol/
They have a thread explicitly to cry about this one
<"Muh /TRANNYpol/ Amirite?"
<"Muh Feminazism"
<Claiming that Zig Forums hates wyatt pipole
<Claiming that migrants / immigrants / refugees aren't working class cuz Muh spooks (Muh ebic NazBol XD / Their not white etc)
<Calling Zig Forums Librulz
<Claiming you'll be banned on Zig Forums for triggering the LibTard ebic style XD
<"I believe in traditional marriage and courtship rituals!"

Even if it didn't start off as it if you deny that board isn't blatant DaC at this point then your delusional

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Thomas Morgan
Thomas Morgan

defeatism
how the fuck is this defeatism, i am telling you, and most people agree, this board is not good compared ot how it used to be.

Zero bant, zero meme, zero theory really.

Apart from that, zero interesting personal conversations, all the fucked up weird people left and now its basically just reddit tier normies.

no longer can i talk crust punks about how they used to break into churches

no longer can i talk to ex meth heads or satanist sex workers with weird nazi fantasies

now its just the most autistic and boring cookie cutter ML's

Angel Russell
Angel Russell

Feminism is misandry. The anti-feminist thread is full of people opposing misandry and giving examples of it. There are also several users defending misandry in that thread.
that pic
So you've never even bothered to look at the anti-feminist threads then? They aren't crying about manspreading. Here, I attached some actual pics from that thread. Now tell me it has nothing to do with misandry and anybody who disagrees with any of that is a Nazi.
You are a fucking delusional idiot
says the newlad who delusionally convinced himself that the Zig Forums moderators care at all about leftism. Anybody who was around back then knows that "le ☭TANKIE☭s want everybody to be shot by the military" wasn't meming, it was literally what Zig Forums mods believed and they banned hundreds and hundreds of leftists for disagreeing with this. The only reason the mods play nice now is because they don't want to drive even more people to /leftpol/, but as soon as /leftpol/ goes away you'll learn what Zig Forums used to be

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Nathaniel Miller
Nathaniel Miller

I said this months ago but was drowned out by the usual filth that came from there. They decry moderation as having "killed" Zig Forums, yet /leftpol/ having less moderation hasn't done anything for its numbers and has made the quality of discussion absolutely abysmal.

I also suggest we should remove flags because we have a gang who all know each other - probably through discord or whatever - who try to shout down all dissenting opinions. Such as the black cats faggot and his cronies who immediately rush to his aid when he's besmirched. Retard has been banned like 50 times and runs to /leftpol/ to cry about the evil moderators, even though the reasons for his bans were justified. Another thing to note is how comfortable anarchists are with nazbols and /pol/ types in general, guess it's their liberal streak.

Luis Cooper
Luis Cooper

Funniest thing is that anarchists now have more hatred for "tankies" than they do capitalists/fascists. This is what happens when you spend too much time on twitter.

Kayden Cruz
Kayden Cruz

I think Zig Forums is significantly slower than it was even in last summer/early fall when I started lurking.

Noah Martin
Noah Martin

I started lurking about a year ago and I agree it has gotten noticeably slower

Jace Fisher
Jace Fisher

ive been here since 2014/15 i forget but this place really used to be a wonderland

Zachary Barnes
Zachary Barnes

as in we had over 1000 active isps, twice what it is now, we had regular conversion of rightists, we had so much good content and effort posts, there was even an organsation that started here some anarchists made called Action Front dunno what happened with that but an attempt was made

Michael Sanders
Michael Sanders

all the left is like that, the trots in my country hate the socdems more than the neoliberal fucks
and the maoists hate the trotskists like they murdered their parents or something, fucking sectarian left bullshit

Josiah Davis
Josiah Davis

comfortable with pol etc
it makes for good discussion where you actually learn about your enemy and yourself through that, helps you hone your ideology and convert, rather than just have a lame torture chamber

Jeremiah Turner
Jeremiah Turner

Remember this next time you resent heavy moderation on this board. We have anchor gulags for a reason. The polyp will try its best to derail posts till the only conversations that are not dealt with flippantly are their own.

Carter Ward
Carter Ward

/pol/
our enemy
Imagine thinking dumb memelords are “our enemy” and not just a pest

Hudson Edwards
Hudson Edwards

Imagine being so blind as to think they don’t matter. You realise Alex Jones is more or less one of the most trusted news sources in the world

Wyatt Wood
Wyatt Wood

What do you think caused the decline and what should we do to get the mojo running again? I keep reading heavy handed mods destroyed the board, but that doesn't explain the really recent decline.

Kevin Johnson
Kevin Johnson

Speaking for myself, I think a lot of us have left for discord servers to discuss politics.
Image boards are notoriously shitty places to have in depth conversations, especially when you have polyp derailment every couple post. I only come here when I'm in the mood to deal with some polyp bullshit

Jayden Wright
Jayden Wright

discord

Max cringe.

Camden Jackson
Camden Jackson

Thread about feminism (which may have been bait though) is immediately anchored - /pol/ shitpost about muh Vuvuzela stays up.

Tells you everything about where the loyalties of these faggots are.

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Nathan Russell
Nathan Russell

too bad 90% of discord are 15 year olds who are just in for the memes.

Tyler Torres
Tyler Torres

/leftpol/ poster reveals himself to be a Nazi, is unbotbered. Slipping in some redpills about the Jews goes unchecked.

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Christian Baker
Christian Baker

Max cringe.
image boards have gone way down hill and are at peak cringe levels themselves.
admit it.

15 year olds who are just in for the memes.
I don't know where you're going, but the servers I'm in we mostly just read books together and talk about them. If anything, this place is full of meme lords now.

Jacob Miller
Jacob Miller

Fem thread looks like bait tbh, but the vuvuzela one is also obvious bait.

Hudson Miller
Hudson Miller

Discord is for gamer nerd basement dwellers.

Twitter is the future. Every world leader uses it, it's 10000x more relevant.

Tyler Gomez
Tyler Gomez

Both of those are bait, but the discussion in the vuvuzela one is actually prompting people to talk about socialism and venezuela.

Cameron Ortiz
Cameron Ortiz

Based. And trotskyists and leftcoms, as well as socdems and anarchists. Their position has been thoroughly BTFO and none of them have ever achieved anything. Leftypol should be a marxist-leninist board with harsh censorship of liberal fifth columns.

Scodems and assorted riff raff now hold the online sphere and are attacking without stop Marxist-Leninism. Their aim is to subvert revolution so for internet points. Its time to attack back.

Hunter Thomas
Hunter Thomas

Anarchists, leftcoms, socdems and trots have entered into an allience and are posting non-stop propaganda about how Marxism-leninism is worse than fascism and how we all need to be killed so they can have their liberal idealist fantasy land. One only has to look to Bat'Ko, a so-called "neutral" anarchist and the disgusting propaganda he puts out daily. It is clear he will ally with fascists and capitalists to save his petite-bourgeois NEET fantasies over us.

"Oh but Bat'ko is just a mem-"

NO. Every video he has made about marxist-leninists has been nothing but slander and ridicule.

Austin Garcia
Austin Garcia

You sound like a PSL nigger revisionist

Luis Reed
Luis Reed

muh debtor prisons
Post some proof that feminists are against debtors prisons. Yes! Muh debtors prisons! What of it?

Dominic Martin
Dominic Martin

Leftypol should be a marxist-leninist board with harsh censorship of liberal fifth columns.
This

Owen Edwards
Owen Edwards

also FUCK ANPRIMS AND CHRISTCUCKS for real reasons i don't hate them for personal reasons i swear fuck em

Evan Collins
Evan Collins

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Anthony Rogers
Anthony Rogers

ML board
Nigga, I agree with you faggots on everything, I'm just a Wobbly because of optics, and it's clear there's no actual organizational benefits for one over the other, when it comes to the vanguard V.S carefully organized committees.
This

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Blake Miller
Blake Miller

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Grayson Reed
Grayson Reed

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Leo Johnson
Leo Johnson

I'm just a Wobbly because of optics
cringe

Daniel Turner
Daniel Turner

non argument, you 11 year old.

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Jonathan Torres
Jonathan Torres

???? Men want to be be traditionalist men with women doing what ever the fuck they are told to do.
Not quite, we just don't want the inverse. But if you like being domineered by Conde-Nast readers, I won't mercy-kill you.

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Gavin Richardson
Gavin Richardson

muh psychotic mods
First off, it was pretty much only BO. Second, /leftpol/ poster's constant strawmanning and ignorance of Marxism is just as bad as leftypol's posters strawmen and ignorance about anarchism

Nolan Bailey
Nolan Bailey

127722
Natsoc here
turn me into a nazbol
<not deleted
<not anchored

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Henry Allen
Henry Allen

THIS POST BROUGHT TO YOU BY ANMOD GANG

Carson Miller
Carson Miller

making fun of multi-billion dollar corporations is not allowed on Zig Forums
It wasn't just BO, you vollies loved to take part too.
Although while we're on the subject what ever happened to BO? I've heard rumors that he was deposed and that's why the mods calmed down but never got confirmation from anybody official. Can you confirm that the BO is no longer in charge?
the only form of modern debtor prison in the US is men being imprisoned for being unable to pay child support and alimony. Guess who supports that?

Asher Wright
Asher Wright

I don't think, I know the decline was caused by the split, and the split was caused by mods banning everyone who supported R.ojav.a as imperialist. This ushered in a ban happy period. Gradually all the good posters left.

On top of that, instead of engaging and converting the polacks they were just banned, so the place became a torture chamber for the worst kind of autistic, uneducated vulgar anti imperialist MLs . None of whom have ever been able to explain to me why Assad pays for kurdish hospitals.

The really recent decline is simply the last death throes of a dying board, the mods anchor half the threads and it makes the place boring instead of engaging.

using the phrase cringe is max cringe. Are you some 14 year old basic bitch?

mods here are also anchor and ban happy about seemingly random shit
maybe if you inhabit discords with 15 year olds like the nonce you are
Leftypol should be a marxist-leninist board with harsh censorship of liberal fifth columns.

As a materialist analysis, this attitude has run the board into the ground, and now its shit, and almost everybody but a bunch of autists who like existing in a torture chamber agrees.

this is schizoid level paranioa

thats what it is now and its shit
stop saying cringe you little babby
mods should have done something about BO then. most leftypol posters are also ignorant of marxism and think it means "what lenin said"

natsoc to nazbol is progress

if it is the case that BO is gone then why still world filter on one big US military base in Syria

the only form of modern debtor prison in the US is men being imprisoned for being unable to pay child support and alimony. Guess who supports that?
this is completely factually incorrect there are still literal straight up debtors prisons

youtube.com/watch?v=RIghbrn5yfI

Christian Price
Christian Price

cringe

Luis Smith
Luis Smith

All anarchists are "freeze peach" red liberals
CAR ☭TANKIE☭S FORWARD

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Asher Bailey
Asher Bailey

If you want to watch this car crash that is /leftpol/, here is another incel/MRA thread:

zigforums.com/thread/128427/left-politics

Zachary Moore
Zachary Moore

I love how they always take the bait without fail

Xavier Cox
Xavier Cox

Kek

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Samuel Stewart
Samuel Stewart

Hoooooo boy that is some quality cringe right there and I could be considered to be an incel. That "means of reproduction" meme needs to die.

Also, yeah he probably is that ugly. Just like me.

Daniel Reed
Daniel Reed

The horrible thing is I genuinely think I started it ironically

Angel Harris
Angel Harris

/"lefty"pol/ has always been brocialist. This is nothing new.

Hunter Martin
Hunter Martin

brocialist
get OUTTA 'ERE chapobraphouse

Aiden Ward
Aiden Ward

Nah moderation has been shit here for literally years. I'm not even sure why the board was ever called Zig Forums to begin with since none of the mods ever gave a shit about any actual leftwing politics and were all just fucking neonazis spouting obscure communist literature they read in their spare time. Any time I've ever seen anyone try to actually discuss any actual leftwing policies and try to advocate for real world action, the thread gets locked, deleted or whatever and the mods often have some bullshit snarky comment to add to the pot to make it worse. This has always been the way of things on this board.

Hudson Hall
Hudson Hall

Brocialist is a term that exists for a reason. And the mods here are that reason. You could just say ivory tower socialist or champagne socialist. It's all the same thing.

Isaiah Roberts
Isaiah Roberts

”Bro” has the same meaning as ivory tower and champagne
Confirmed brainlet and probably a roastie too

William Gomez
William Gomez

Confirmed brainlet and probably a roastie too
Why does a """"leftwing"""" board sound like /pol/? Well, I guess that settles the question of whether or not this place has changed. Literally indistinguishable from /pol/ still. Later faggots.

Alexander Rodriguez
Alexander Rodriguez

You are a sea of contrasts.

Jayden Barnes
Jayden Barnes

Maybe because we share the same inage board culture and slang? If you cant handle an obvious on the internet you can sincerely fuck off and cry somewhere else. You seem to think nobody else wont return your own shrill snark against you, you miserable piece of shit

Samuel Lee
Samuel Lee

Joke*

Blake Ross
Blake Ross

Yes, insults, adoption of /pol/ culture and vile sectarianism are sure to being many people into the leftist fold.

Those people who go on /pol/ could just as easily go to a leftist board, but they don't. We have to analyse why, and maybe use that knowledge to increase traffic.

Sebastian Campbell
Sebastian Campbell

Yes and your obnoxious sarcasm and patronizng tone are sure to draw the masses, fuckface!

Luis Robinson
Luis Robinson

This is just chan culture, i don't defend it (like the guy in the Cockshott thread that thinks if he gets offended by being called a niggerfaggot he's a snowflake), but i understand it exists and moderation is more loose here. Also you must understand after years of the left adopting the politically correct side compared to the incorrect one the right took years ago some anons try to be extra edgy to appear like what people call the "dirtbag" left.

Kayden Robinson
Kayden Robinson

Rafiq made an excellent post explaining why the left "can't meme" and why we can't be "politically incorrect". I don't have a screencap of it, but basically right-wing memes and PolInc. relies on disparaging another group from the position of being happy with and reinforcing the status quo.

For example, they can laugh at "dumb commies" who want to change the system because the right-wingers are embedded in that system that itself resists communism. Like if someone has two children, the child that listens to the parent, knows what the parent wants can ridicule and feel to be in a position of power vis-a-vis the other sibling because they know what the authority figure expects and what the authority figure will enforce. This is kinda why the right-wing finds figures to revere people (Trump, Peterson) who are the mouthpieces or enforcers of the status quo, so then they can feel secure in their uncontroversial opinions.

Aiden Powell
Aiden Powell

This board used to be popular you stupid faggot, it's in decline entirely due to management and has nothing to do with not appealing to you and the rest of the literally shaking gang.

Daniel Sanchez
Daniel Sanchez

Rafiq
Let me guess, a namefag from the old Zig Forums?

Jason Bailey
Jason Bailey

A revleft poster who was a bit of a meme here for a bit.

Carter Kelly
Carter Kelly

This board used to be popular you stupid faggot, it's in decline entirely due to management
Management also explains why there isn't an influx of new users, while /pol/ grows? Nice materialist analysis, liberal.

Dylan Jones
Dylan Jones

Save us both the hassle and fuck off back to CTH.

Henry Richardson
Henry Richardson

Yes, because poor management means that people leave meaning that they're not recruiting people.

How is that hard?

Gavin Reyes
Gavin Reyes

get fucked Zig Forums
/leftpol/ is more than alive
we have many great HQ posts because of sliding down the ranking
now all the low quality posters are here in Zig Forums
Yet if you’re very smart and want to discuss serious topic, join us on /leftpol/
Zig Forums is a designated shitpostin board anyways lol

See ya in the light, come over to /leftpol/

Jason Davis
Jason Davis

Meanwhile on /leftpol/…

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Grayson Long
Grayson Long

Jucheposter is singlehandedly trying to salvage /leftpol/
Based

Oliver Gomez
Oliver Gomez

Based

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Liam Rodriguez
Liam Rodriguez

I don't care
They started as a R*java loving liberal anarkiddies and ended up being 7/44 nazis
Horseshoe theory :DDDDDDD

Isaiah Walker
Isaiah Walker

Just to be clear, there is more than one Jucheposter.

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Logan Allen
Logan Allen

It’s nice to see more promotion of Juche and Songun lately. All of Zig Forums shall see the light

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Gavin King
Gavin King

I like how they painted Grandpa Kim with a cig in his hand.

Logan Ross
Logan Ross

Carrying on the family legacy

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Connor Powell
Connor Powell

The Juche-ification of /leftpol/ continues. Anarkiddies will be routed

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Matthew Jones
Matthew Jones

more of a fan of marxism-leninism tbh

John Kelly
John Kelly

Juche is M-L adapted for Korea.

Luke Lee
Luke Lee

LOL

Post quotes from the new constitution where they mention Marxism.

Ian Smith
Ian Smith

ML is the presupposition of Juche

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Cameron Peterson
Cameron Peterson

Guess I’m down for Juche Nazbol totalitarian direct democratic Cockshott gang

Liam Turner
Liam Turner

Kim Jong-Il
You know he's dead, right? Post something from this decade. And you still haven't shown where in the DPRK constitution Marxism is mentioned.

Isaac Carter
Isaac Carter

You know he's dead, right?
Kim Jong Il wrote many of the fundamental works on the Juche Idea. The works are still upheld by the DPRK and also made available through their official websites.
korean-books.com.kp/en/
something from this decade
kfausa.org/interrelationship-juche-idea-marxism-leninism-view-juche-idea-marxism/
Marxism wasn't mentioned in the original 1948 constitution and the 1955 constitution either.

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Henry Stewart
Henry Stewart

Marxism wasn't mentioned in the original 1948 constitution and the 1955 constitution either.
:)

Parker Reyes
Parker Reyes

We killed you board, cry more. If you ask nicely we'll let you into the yang gang.

Dylan Peterson
Dylan Peterson

constitution doesn't namedrop margss so they're nazis XD
This is the top tier political analysis this board lacks.

Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones

Here is the 1964 constitution of the People's Republic of Albania, a Marxist-Leninist state. Show me where the word "Marxism" is mentioned.

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Charles Johnson
Charles Johnson

We r leejun xDDDD

Robert Cox
Robert Cox

being a socialist state means mentioning Marx in your constitution and talking about him and Lenin constantly

Caleb Perez
Caleb Perez

PR of albania
socialist
implying
made by /leftpol/ gang

Evan Hall
Evan Hall

this post made by 2018 oldfag gang

Adam Gomez
Adam Gomez

What even is this thread
From what I can see it started off as just making fun of /leftpol/ for being dead but then some mentally ill LeftCom showed up and started screaming that nowhere Socialist exists

Nathan Martinez
Nathan Martinez

All of the retards in this thread are doubtlessly from /leftpol/. They’re angry over all of the Juche-posting that has popped up over there and have been screeching about ☭TANKIE☭s, authoritarianism and “re.d fascism” more than usual. If you want to have fun post with the Juche flag over there and champion the DPRK in every post

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Adam Myers
Adam Myers

leftcom shitposting is older than /leftpol/ itself

Jackson James
Jackson James

True but you need to do it with the flag or it doesn't make people mad.

Kayden Jackson
Kayden Jackson

From crypto-fascist board to Juche board, this is a step in the right direction

Gabriel Gutierrez
Gabriel Gutierrez

The Albanian people have found constant inspiration in the great doctrine of Marxism-Leninism, under the banner of which, united round the Party of Labour and under its leadership, they are carrying forward the construction of socialist society to pass over, later, gradually to communist society.

In the People's Socialist Republic of Albania the dominant ideology is Marxism-Leninism. The entire socialist social order is developed on the basis of its principles.

In foreign relations the People's Socialist Republic of Albania proceeds from the principles of Marxism-Leninism and proletarian internationalism, follows the policy of friendship, collaboration, and mutual assistance with the socialist states, supports the revolutionary movement of the working class and the struggle of the peoples for freedom, independence, social progress and socialism and relies on their solidarity.

Education in the People's Socialist Republic of Albania is organized and run by the state, is open to all and free of charge; it is built on the basis of the Marxist-Leninist world outlook and combines lessons with productive work and physical and military training.

bjoerna.dk/dokumentation/Albanian-Constitution-1976.htm

*dabs*

Asher Hall
Asher Hall

Albania always makes me have “le wrong generation” feels. I really need to go learn Korean

Michael Wilson
Michael Wilson

1976
I asked about 1964.
Does this mean it wasn't ML until then because muh constitution has to mention certain words?

Zachary Reed
Zachary Reed

I will only admit evidence that fits into my narrowly defined criteria that specifically precludes the evidence you posted
checkmate
This is your brain on the Juice.

Leo Sanchez
Leo Sanchez

“Socialism is when you mention my name. The more you mention my name, the more socialist your country shall be.”
t. Karl Marx

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Hudson Thompson
Hudson Thompson

specifically precludes the evidence you posted
It doesn't really. If Marxism is when you include the word Marxism in your constitution, then Albania wasn't Marxist until 1976.

Juan Kelly
Juan Kelly

in determining whether a country is socialist, should we look at the objective material conditions on the ground and make deductions based on those observations?
<no need. they don't namedrop Marx in their constitution so it's not real socialism
this is the hard-hitting materialist analysis Zig Forums has always been lacking, my god

Matthew Bennett
Matthew Bennett

the more marx is namedropped the more socialister something is
It's true for internet philosophy debates, the more names you can cram into a paragraph, the smarter you are.

Oliver Morales
Oliver Morales

If Marxism is when you include the word Marxism in your constitution
I never made that claim, you did. All I said was that there's no mention of Marxism in any of DPRK's constitutions. Do they even mention socialism or communism in the new constitution?

Pic related is what it says in Albania's 1964 constitution, is there something similar in DPRK's constitution?

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Hunter Wilson
Hunter Wilson

fucking kys you disingenuous brainlet

Chase Sanders
Chase Sanders

Of course they do. It's even in the title.
Socialist Constitution of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (2016)
Article 1. The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is an independent socialist State representing the interests of all the Korean people.
Article 12. The State shall adhere to the class line and strengthen the dictatorship of the people’s democracy so as to firmly defend the people’s power and socialist system against all subversive acts of hostile elements at home and abroad.
Article 14. The State shall determinedly conduct the Three-Revolution Red Flag Movement and other mass movements so as to accelerate the building of socialism to the maximum.

Article 19. The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea relies on socialist relations of production and on the foundation of an independent national economy.
Article 29. Socialism is built by the creative labour of the working people. Labour in the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is independent and creative labour of the working people, freed from exploitation and oppression.
Article 32. The State shall firmly adhere to the principle of properly combining political guidance with economic and technical guidance, the unified guidance of the State with the creativeness of each unit, unitary direction with democracy, and political and moral incentive with material incentive in the guidance and management of the socialist economy.
Article 33. The State shall direct and manage the national economy through the Taean work system, a socialist form of economic management whereby the economy is operated and managed scientifically and rationally on the basis of the collective efforts of the producer masses, and through the system of agricultural guidance whereby agricultural management is conducted by industrial methods.

Article 39. Socialist culture, which is flourishing and developing in the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, contributes to improving the creative ability of the working people and to meeting their sound cultural and aesthetic demands.
Article 40. The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea shall, by carrying out a thorough cultural revolution, train all the people to be builders of socialism equipped with a profound knowledge of nature and society and a high level of culture and technology, thus making the whole of society intellectual.
Article 41. The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea shall develop a truly people-oriented, revolutionary culture which serves the socialist working people. In building a socialist national culture, the State shall oppose the cultural infiltration of imperialism and any tendency to return to the past, protect its national cultural heritage, and develop it in keeping with the existing socialist situation.
Article 42. The State shall eliminate the way of life inherited from the outmoded society and establish a new socialist way of life in every sphere.
Article 43. The State shall embody the principles of socialist pedagogy so as to raise the rising generation to be steadfast revolutionaries who will fight for society and the people, to be people of the new, Juche type who are knowledgeable, morally sound and physically healthy.

Article 59. The mission of the armed forces of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is to defend the leadership of the revolution, to safeguard the interests of the working people, to defend the socialist system and the gains of the revolution, and to protect the freedom, independence and peace of the country from foreign aggression by implementing the Songun-based revolutionary line.

Article 63. In the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea the rights and duties of citizens are based on the collectivist principle: “One for all and all for one.”
Article 64. The State shall effectively guarantee the genuine democratic rights and freedoms as well as the material and cultural well-being of all its citizens. In the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea the rights and freedoms of citizens shall be amplified with the consolidation and development of the socialist system.
Article 80. The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea shall grant the right of asylum to foreign nationals persecuted for struggling for peace and democracy, national independence and socialism or for the freedom of scientific and cultural pursuits.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Socialist_Constitution_of_the_Democratic_People%27s_Republic_of_Korea_(2016)

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Adam Anderson
Adam Anderson

Article 80

Wait, so is being persecuted for fighting for socialism/against imperialism pretty much the only way to gain citizenship to the DPRK? Haven't seen any other ways to get citizenship.

Fuck, that's pretty based.

Jayden Martinez
Jayden Martinez

Haven't seen any other ways to get citizenship.
The first citizenship law in the DPRK was passed in the early 60s. Here are a few articiles of the law relevant to your interest:

Article 6
An alien irrespective of his nationality or race, may acquire the citizenship of the Korean Democratic People's Republic upon his application

Article 7
The marriage by a citizen of the Korean Democratic People's Republic with a person who is a non-citizen of the Korean Democratic People's Republic shall not entail any change of citizenship.

Article 8
In the event of both parents becoming citizens of the Korean Democratic People's Republic, or both of them ceasing to be such, the citizenship of their chilren under the age of fourteen years changes correspondingly; The change of the citizenship of their children under the age of eighteen years may take place only with their children's consent

Article 10:
Upon the application of person concerned, the acquisition or release of the citizenship of the Korean Democratic People's Republic shall be determined by the Presidium of the Supreme People's Assembly of the Korean Demo- cratic People's Republic.

So apparently you can apply and get naturalized by filing an application with the Presidium of the Supreme People’s Assembly.
jstor.org/stable/40704728

Jace Morgan
Jace Morgan

One example of socialists who were granted asylum are the Japanese Red Army members who moved to the DPRK by hijacking a plane.

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Nicholas Ramirez
Nicholas Ramirez

The Yodogō group were based and were even converted to Juche ideology during their stay. The sad thing is that the DPRK did not provide them with the military-training they so desired and frequently requested. The decision may have been smart though, a lot of these Japanese New Left figures were nuts, sectarian or adventurist (just look up stuff like the Lod airport massacre, Tsuneo Mori’s sōkatsu murders, etc)