What far-left groups are against identity politics?

Some idpolers aren't even familiar with the concept of class so maybe educate them.

Yeah, I agree. In the reparations thread a lot of people were saying that once we abolish capitalism there won't be any need for reparations, which is totally insane given the state of the average African-American. I think you're right that people see a bunch of tumblr-tier discussions about race (and sex and religion and whatever else) and assume anyone who wants to talk about those issues is a liberal.

How is that insane? If you create a socialist system isn't it sort of inbuilt that you economically everyone is put on the same level?

Not asking to be a dick, I'm not even a burger or against reparations.

It's a really hard issue to discuss because there's a whole lot of really bad ways to implement reparations, because it deals with a community that has suffered both civic, economic and cultural damage - thus simple solutions like simply cutting all black people a check would not go very long to solve the problem.

What do reparations even mean in the context of socialism? I'm a socialist because I'm a proletarian, and that's the only coherent reason to be one. Class interest necessitates that workers of the world unite to overthrow a system that exploits our surplus labor. This is in no way requires a vague wishy washy kind of egalitarianism based on redistributing property or money. Socialism is the project to abolish these things, and communism is its highest form.

Not my fault if the Soviet Union muddled these things, and not my fault if it collapsed, but muddling up socialism into a vague worker's state isn't totally unrelated to its gradual decay and recapture by capitalism.

wrong, you were there, you are the only one left to blame

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That's because slavery was more than just an economic system of exploitation, it was also one of deculturization and dehumanization. Thus socialism alone will not rehabilitate their culture and their humanity alone, only create the breathing-room for such social change to occur. The change will still have to happen, and they will still have to be reintegrated into society as a whole.

here you are, bout to fuck up the entire USSR infrastructure with your shitty Grobachev-ass market reforms

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The USSR recognized that the development of the nations which had been colonized by the Russian Empire had been retarded by colonialism and implemented significant policies to correct that. They also implemented affirmative action for the disadvantaged nationalities (as I said upthread). They didn't simply establish socialism and wait for it to even out.

I think this goes both ways and is why I hate the whole "that's a so-and-so talking point, you fascist/radlib" line.

The "workerist" (what a dumb fucking word) Marxists like me see enough r/socialism tier shit and certain talking points and terms start triggering us, and we put anyone who uses the word "intersectionality" in the same category and forget that for some black or trans comrades that shit can serve as a good entry point. We start forming our own slang and codes of discourse to counter the stupid insanity the idpolers spout. By the time the minority comrades find us they see the way we talk as a manifestation of some alt-right Asserist fragility bullshit, and we see the way they talk as some yieksing reddit wine-mom tier faggotry. The end result is that white proles who love Black Panthers and non-white proles who love Lenin are throwing down like it's the fucking Rumble in the Jungle.

America is such a muttland at this point it would spiral into absurdity.

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i'm not a huge fan of idpol either but this is by far the most garbage ass reddit-tier image i've ever seen on leftypol

What does that actually mean structurally? I want a materialist answer. What does it even mean to rehabilitate their culture and humanity? How would reintegration into society work? What does that mean?

Why does any of this matter? If we achieve communism then they won't be oppressed in terms of being unable to access goods anymore and their economic needs will be fulfilled so what else are you wanting access to?

Except it was made by Zig Forums. This place sure has changed.

That's just a meme. Because of the one-drop rule, despite the fact that many black (and indigenous) Americans have some European ancestry they're considered fully black (or indigenous) and have been discriminated against as such. It would be ludicrous to say that a black guy isn't suffering from a legacy of historical discrimination simply because he's 20% Scottish or whatever. I do wonder how reparations would work in a country with a more complicated racial hierarchy (like Brazil) but that's up to them to work out.

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why do we need Puerto Ricans and reggaton? literal nobody is able to answer this question

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compromised of exactly the amount of people in that picture.

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lmao you idpol fags are the first to go

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not a reparations guy but i assume it won't go to rich blacks

Fuck, do you guys remember back in the day when we had good Stirnerposting?

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How /leftypol started: Idpol is shit guys, why don't we just try communism?

How Zig Forums decayed: Not everything to do with minorities is Idpol! Being anti-capitalist doesn't mean we can't pander to… I mean acknowledge some other stuff! Stop being a vulgar workerist!

How Zig Forums be now: Wow reparations for black people isn't idpol guys stop being a Zig Forumsyp.

get out bigot

What does it matter? We should abolish money IMMEDIATELY after the revolution so you can't pull this kind of betrayal stealth capitalist bullshit.

Every worker should get food and housing and amenities regardless of any other factors. End of.

Again, not a reparations guy, but yeah i would like to know how reparations work compared to simply giving everyone a job and amenities.

I don't think anyone's saying: Hey let's cut a big check to every black person. That's too simple.
It's about repairing a community, not about every single person within that community, as individuals. The damage to the black community was not just economic, it was civic and cultural as well, and thus the black community has to be reintegrated into the nation once again.

I'm obviously not saying we should mug white homeless people and give their money to Obama. I'm saying we need to invest significant resources into oppressed communities. Also, we should publicly execute Obama.

What do you think idpol is?

How are reparations capitalist?
I agree.
Well, if you end it there it's just an expansive welfare state.

Good post.

And yet no one can explain what this means.

And yet no one can explain what this means.

Actually, the moment you get what you need to live, and the proceeds of work belong to the workers, I'd say they are already integrated. Civic and cultural are just buzzwords meaning nothing and allowing nationalism for colored people to infiltrate socialism.

Politics focused on creating inequality due to identity grievances. Zig Forums believes in idpol, for example.

Why not just institute a worker's state and then give the same resources to each community? The very instant we do that they won't be oppressed anymore in any tangible sense, you know, any sense that isn't idpol bullshit that has nothing to do with creating anti-capitalist structures.

And if you give black communities more stuff you are taking it from somewhere. If we can plan production, then it logically should be equal. All the arguments for Idpol are based

Because they revolve around trying to make something unfair (money and property) fair merely through redistribution, when the goal is to ABOLISH these things. Reparations are inherently unfair and divide the working class. It's deeply racist to ask white workers to pay for black workers reparations when the real solution is for both to unite and overthrow the bourgeois system and make things INHERENTLY fair for both.

Nope. Welfare states involve money. Having a worker's state and co-ops plan production is not the same thing as a capitalist welfare state. Reparations is the idea that is like a capitalist welfare state by stealth because it depends on unequalizing resources.

If all work and are able to decide issues through worker's institutions, and all are able to go to a common store and partake of what's there, which we have far more of due to advances in production brought about by a worker's state, where exactly is the need for reparations, unless you quite deliberately want to create economic inequality because of inequality in the past that is already solved through the socialist method.

If you want reparations that shows that something is wrong and we haven't achieved the slightest little bit of socialism. (and we probably won't if you push for it as a serious idea).

on economic inequality.

It means that we live in a culture where the civics of black people, meaning their ability to organize, police and represent them selves were destroyed and their experiences were kept out of the public discourse as to silence them, so they were not able to tell each other that they were not alone in their experiences and thus making any kind of systematic analysis impossible.

Their culture was also destroyed - they were disallowed to consider themselves beautiful, their music was considered "low-brow" and their language being an "incorrect" version of english. These wounds will still persist in socialism and some effort will have to be undertaken in order to rehabilitate the black community even though, socialism just creates the conditions in which these efforts will be possible at all.

wyd about this little analysis an user did in another thread.

Well I'm not american and couldn't say if this is true, so if you have a sources I'll thanks you send me. However, all has do with economic situation, that's is the base of marxism theory, and materialism.

And you can't chance a social issue linked with the system without change the system, otherwise is a contradiction, your country ins't in transition from capitalism to socialism, so you could not figth for black equality if you didn't make the socialist struggle your priority. Becuase in capitalist there aren't equality for neither race. As well you can't figth for children explotation without struggle of classes and counciest that explotation is a focus of capitalism, less or more ya'll have been exploted by bourgeois. If you divide your figth by races, only get a reactionary theory nears to facism and the fail of revolution because you're throwing whites workers from your movent and drive them to capitalists and skinheads groups, while black bourgeois shall support you and your movement, becuase they had realize supporting you, they'll have previleges as rich class, ripping it out to whites, and chance to turn your movent in capitalist again. Just you'll change the status of niggers opressed for whites opressed, that's not real equality.

That's why I think we'd not must talk about 'race/genre privileges', just generate injustificated hate to other races and genres, this is the same question with jews and religions in general, If you want a revolution first you should unite workers and figth together against system, and with the praxis you'll show the world and the racists, that all are in the same row, and for the workes party dosen't matter your color. And also, police shooting niggers more than whites is just because niggers in USA are mostly averge of lumpen with latinos (I'm black colombian btw), gangs and marginal situation of black is just a effect of capitalist, if you eliminate explotation, and give free education and free heath, just with those, you'll reduce the crimilation whetever race you have in your country, polices don't shoot nigger more than white because prejuices, is because they're the often criminal in USA. Your capitalist was racist, most than Europe and Latin America, but here in Colombia is happen the same, people have the prejuice that niggers are criminals, but in Cuba for example happend the same with Batista, and now is different, Che, Fidel, Cinfuegos were whites, and the major of revolutionaries were, but free capitalist country is free racism country because you turn the materialist condition of your people and vanish lumpen.

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Again, the privileges are the same for any kind of bourgeoisy don't matter which skin you have, how socislists.

Communist is a enmacipation of capitalist and evolution of mankind like spice, for reach that, we have to struggle against reactionaries forces but most important make a sociaty free of any kind of prejuices and near it to the racional and cientific facts with internacionalism, but We need a socialist revolution to reach communist, so give your first step first.

i meant to say what do you think

And socialism addresses this with worker organization, where local soviets would elect their own representatives, going up the scale to the worker's state.

This is a problem because in capitalism there is strict economic hierarchy and bosses can make decisions that hold life and death over black people based on these factors. Under socialism, it literally doesn't matter. Some one doesn't like your music or the way you talk? Fuck 'em. You can afford to not care about that sort of bullshit under socialism and that's the beauty of it.

Socialism can't unhurt your feelings for you, but it instantly solves any tangible material consequences of this stuff. Bosses can't fire you for your hair or for listening to rap music or whatever. The material consequences are gone. If you're looking for some system where no one is ever mean to each other ever then that's another thing, but socialism absolutely solves any version of this problem that actually matters to society and isn't just some random person's hangups.

I would also change this by saying that if socialism didn't address this it wouldn't be socialism because it would be treating some workers differently than others and therefore wouldn't be a class based movement. Idpollers use these arguments about what holds sway under capitalism to try and claim that you need to add extra elements to socialism, even though it's already there.

They'll talk about the racial inequality that exists under capitalism, that is solved by genuine worker's democracy, and then use that as an excuse to argue for a different kind of racial inequality such as reparations. It's very sly and not so obvious as the violent screaming white racism of the Zig Forumsyp but still easy to see through. With one hand they strike against racism but with the other they uphold it and try to turn socialism into something its not for reasons it doesn't need.

I think we're talking past each other here.

I absolutely agree that socialism is necessary for abolishing racism in America, no question about it. The relevant question here is whether or not it would do so on it's own, since there are plenty of non-economic aspects to racism.

In capitalism, for example, the material need for homophobia and sexism disappeared, as the mode of production and society as a whole no longer was as centered around fathering male heirs, yet homosexuality did not automatically become acceptable under capitalism, it had to go through a long process of mainstreaming and rehabilitation first, as did women, and while we're not there yet, I trust you could agree that gay and women's rights have progressed immensely under capitalism, both because of and in spite of it.

I agree fundementally that you cannot organize around being black. In the end "blackness" will have to become a non-issue for black people to be fully liberated, but we still need to be able to talk about black and jewish people, when we're talking about the way they're being treated differently or when people want to oppress them.

In such a worker's democracy, black people would not simply be able to shrug of casual racism, because the majority could easily make discriminatory decisions, even without being aware of it, and I don't think that you can demamnd of anyone that they should simply "deal with" social isolation and others treating them as foreigners and inferiors, just as we cannot demand the same thing for women and gay people under capitalism.

isn't that how direct democracy works tho

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Marx's anime looks like shitty videogames cutscenes tbh

some parts are ok

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IMT are anti-idpol as well.

Who's he talking to in this image

Bakunin

Almost any socialist/anarchist group outside of US and West Europe is not idpol

"Decayed" has more less the correct take here (Minus your sarcasm of course)

There is nothing "IdPol" about saying "Yeah Racism is bad…"

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Black reparations are very commonly misunderstood, sometimes deliberately by liberals and otherwise reactionaries.
All monetary reparations would do is lubricate the operations happening in the community already.
IMO real beneficial reparations would be infrastructure and community aid, build a better environment for blacks to grow up and live in.
better schools, better housing, getting addicts under control, recognizing gangs and settling their feuds.
of course this is only black reparations we are talking about, it'd be somewhat different for Mexican american communities, and lets just save the discussion on natives for another fucking thread.

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I honestly don't understand why a Leftist wouldn't get behind this. Not a burger, but it's still interesting I haven't even heard the term applied to Natives, but they obviously deserve theirs too.

I don't think Mexicans will need reparations, since they are the next in line to get in the White Club.

There's a lot of discussion here about reparations. Why should I feel obligated to help people who are lesser off than I? Especially if they don't have the same values or ideals as me? What if the reparations program didn't work and, say, the black people kept on there present course. What would need to happen in such a case? Would I be reimbursed for this crappy idea?

Probably not. You faggots are never beld accountable.

There are way more blacks than natives so the former are more relevant. Also there are blacks in most urban areas whereas natives are concentrated in the middle of nowhere.

Racism is bad is implicit in an egalitarian movement. The problem is that you promote racism when you call for reparations using capitalist logic.

Again, nonsensical because EVERY community will get this under communism. The problem is solved by overthrowing capitalism and making things such that all communities have good infrastructure and community aid and so on.

What's the point of promising specific racial groups things when everyone else gets the same stuff anyway? It's not reparations if you do that, it's just the norm of what we provide under economic equality.

Also not an idiot burger but afaik Natives do already get some reparations. for example they get to go to uni for free/cheap.

It seems to me that everyone in this thread trying to frame the debate about reparations around giving black people money are being willfully dishonest. Only thing I can't tell is if they're polyps or just standard retard burgers.

The REAL reparation is overthrowing capitalism to begin with. If you're then suddenly telling one set of workers they get 5 schools in their neighborhood instead of 3 or something because they were a little more oppressed than white proletarians under capitalism that is simply the continuation of racist inequality into a supposedly socialist system.

Except no one is actually doing that. Reparations simply don't make sense under socialism. For example, if everyone has free uni you can't get out a color chart and decide that one group that matches right gets SUPER free uni. Are you going to be giving certain races more shit for racist reasons or not?

Under capitalism it's money, but if under "socialism" you were giving blacks something extra in terms of resources to whites from the surplus of society then you are violating the very premise of socialism in the same way that capitalism does. The surplus should be spread out as evenly as possible. The problem under capitalism is that it gets pocketed by capitalists and workers don't see the benefit of their own labor. Under any socialist system that is TRULY socialist that is corrected by all of society seeing the benefit.

Arbitrarily introducing an inequality into planning to supposedly rectify wrongs that are inherently rectified through the logic of socialism is in fact a form of stealth capitalist logic.

You're far closer to a polyp if you support this racist garbage.

Except we don't live under socialism you absolute fucktard.

You're the fucktard. We're talking in the context of a revolutionary movement to build socialism. If you want to give one race reparations under capitalism, that's fine, but just don't pretend that is an integral element of socialism that you must support or you're a racist.

That's a clear strawman. Noone said that you must agree or you're a racist, the only points we've been raising is the fact socialism, while being necessary for the reintegration of black society and culture into mainstream society, does not on itself guarantee it.
The same happened to gay rights after the implementatipon of capitalism - capitalism is not contingent upon the discrimination of gay people, and therefore gay people could be reintegrated into society. It still took some work though.

well they had something like "affirmative action" in party and govermental organs in national republics to prevent separatism.

"In defense of Marxism" is anti-idpol

I am so fucking sick of queer identity politics trying to pass itself off as radical. It's a selfish, superficial ideology of hyper-individualism touted by hypocrites and narcissists who immediately rebut any criticism as Racist, Transphobe, etc

Also the captchas here are too hard

I WISH Zig Forums rejected Idpol in the was the way wsws.org does. Instead Zig Forums uses anti-ipdol rhetoric to protect white supremacy.

this is the kind of shit idpol leftists want you to adhere to

Obviously that doesn't mean be conservatives either, just be chill and not 'fuckin a white male!'

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Those kind of people are obviously toxic and dumb, but luckily they often retreat into echochambers and are of very little political consequence.

There's no real reason to be "against" SJWs, as they're of no real consequence in real life, outside of insular clubs and colleges - the fact that so many of their positions are so rigid and unreasonable make them ideological incapable of doing so.

So we don't have to argue against SJWs, and we don't have to silence those who try and point out the experiences of black, queer and other marginalized people.

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you've caught the bug

or at least it seem you mightve

you seem just naive

If we tell everyone who's simply pointing out that racism exists and how it functions that they're SJWs and that we should combat them, then we're effectively silencing them. That is not the same as encouraging and enabling full-on identitarians, but surely there's some nuance to be found there.

And if you think they have real-life consequences, it's because sinister liberals have appropriated their rhetorics because they're effective within liberalism. Real-life SJWs, however, are uncommon and insular.

Any attempt at educating them on class will be dismissed as "class reductionism". I don't know if it is at all possible to deprogram idpolers.

The org I am part of the International Marxist Tendency also rejects all that type of stuff. Obviously some people in the org still have some confused ideas but the official line is definitely stridently anti-idpol.

Homestly I sometimes feel people on this board overblow how much of a problem idpol is on the left in general. I think it's more an issue with the social media "left" than real active socialists. I just joined the largest Marxist group in my city and there worldview is pretty in-line with Zig Forums's (besides being trots and in favour of open borders).

how do they feel about open borders when it comes to rich capitalists using cheap foreign labor? do they first a foremost protest for better working conditions for immigrants?

Regardless of what moralistic justifications the soviets gave for implementing affirmative action, its primary purpose was to ensure a broad section of the population was invested in the new power structure. Similarly in modern western societies it exists ensure differents section of the population see themselves as represented in the economic/political elite and therefore are discouraged from overturning the whole system.

Don't take justificatiom for affirmative action at face value.

I am very torn on this whole issue.

On the one hand, it requires some serious mental gymnastics to reconcile a morally consistent internationalist position with immigration controls. Our loyalty is to those who sell their labour power for a living and what it says on some piece of paper issued by the bourgeois state should be irrelevant to this. I also think that immigration plays a historically progressive role in breaking down national prejudices, undermining the authority of the state, importing workers from the third-world who have more interest in resisting imperialism etc.

I think Lenin put it best: “There can be no doubt that dire poverty alone compels people to abandon their native land, and that the capitalists exploit the immigrant workers in the most shameless manner. But only reactionaries can shut their eyes to the progressive significance of this modern migration of nations. Emancipation from the yoke of capital is impossible without the further development of capitalism, and without the class struggle that is based on it. And it is into this struggle that capitalism is drawing the masses of the working people of the whole world, breaking down the musty, fusty habits of local life, breaking down national barriers and prejudices, uniting workers from all countries in huge factories and mines in America, Germany, and so forth.”

On the other, you have to be profoundly deluded not to recognize that advocation for open borders is both hugely politically unpopular and not really workable in certain situations. I am from a first-world country, if we were to genuinely pursue an “open borders” immigration policy in the contemporary capitalist context there would be tens or even hundreds of millions of people who would come here from all over the world which would strongly damage the social fabric and lower people’s standard of living. Native workers aren’t stupid, they recognize this and that’s why they would not support a party advocating for this.

I think on the balance, communists should try to organize undocumented workers and advocate for the regularization of their immigration status. This should be paired with an explanation to native born workers that we are doing this to prevent migrant workers from being super exploited, and therefore undermining the working conditions of the whole class. This needs to be paired with a recognition that “open borders” isn’t really a workable policy – either for winning popular support or governing – and controls need to be maintained for the foreseeable future (i.e. until large swathes of the world are socialist and economic differentials between first and third world are reduced).

Here is the defence of “open borders” policy by the IMT marxist.com/why-marxists-oppose-immigration-controls.htm, it’s quite a good article and definitely worth the read. I used to be pretty anti-immigration, but I’ve found some of the people in my tendency pretty convincing on this issue. The main lesson I’ve taken from this is that its far more effective to explain that resisting immigration controls is the most authentically revolutionary position rather than delivering some moralizing sermon about how Western countries are colonizers, exploiters, etc. (which simply ignores class differentiation within national communities).

As a final note, I’ve always found Zig Forums’s mixture of dogmato-leninism and closed borders quite incoherent. Advocating for immigration controls is both completely contrary to everything Lenin advocated for and not really compatible with a dual-power-esque revolutionary strategy. My own more moderate views on immigration are in a lot of ways a reflection of opinions that would probably be derided as Eurocommunist, Kautskyite, or reformist on here.

Bruh you're overthinking it. Basically, our job is to shill for mass immigration to get whitey outnumbered until there are enough darkies in the country to implement socialism. Then, we implement socialism and seal off the borders to turn the country into a giant echo chamber like Stalin did, and also to prevent fascist spies from infiltrating in. That's it. No need to overthink.

Open borders for capitalist states.
Closed borders for socialist ones.

problem with this statement is it has about 500 too many words for any reactionary to actually comprehend

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since when did leftypol encourage people to call simply acknowledging racism idpol?

It's impossible to tell the difference between the two in practice though, a paid shill and a useful idiot look exactly alike.

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What's wrong with it?

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wow you actually care about people
PSH must be an idpol fag amirite

Btw wtf is the Platypus Society?

Honestly I'm not sure myself. Looks like their distinguishing feature is Frankfurt School / critical theory stuff. Based on vague recollections, they also apologize for imperialism (but aren't the Palestinians racists too?) and unironically scolded leftists for not voting for Hillary (or that may have been the Marxist Humanist Federation, I think they're affiliated / split with each other but don't quote me)

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The Platypus Affiliated Society was founded somewhere around 2006. They are active on campuses like organizing reading groups. Influences include indeed the Frankfurt School, also close to Adolph Reed and the late Moishe Postone. Not Hillary fans, on the contrary.

ruining good conversation by shit positing

I'm not anti identity politics per se, but I think this quote says a lot about the limits of them.

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