Everything seems so fucked

William Cook
William Cook

is there anywhere in the world today where things seem to be going in a positive direction? everywhere I look in the world people continue to succumb to neoliberalism and reactionary thought. there are just so many retards that are willing to drag the economy towards hellish feudalism on false promises that it will somehow reaffirm their social identities.
capitalism has already turned everyone into compulsive consumerist animals who just want society to reflect themselves. I've lost all hope.

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James Wright
James Wright

Things in the UK actually seem to be going quite well after 10-15 years of hell

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Camden Russell
Camden Russell

when you're on your own
nowhere to call home
don't worry
be happy

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Ayden Gomez
Ayden Gomez

I mean there is rising union militancy across the world (even in Burgerstan) so that's nice.

Josiah Collins
Josiah Collins

he hasn't won a single election

Caleb Sanchez
Caleb Sanchez

He's 0/1, give it time user.

Logan Martinez
Logan Martinez

He'll win the only one that matters in 2022.

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Robert Hernandez
Robert Hernandez

France is headed for civil war and there is a possibility for a revolution. At least institutional crisis is guaranteed. Also huge financial crisis and recession looming.

Levi Watson
Levi Watson

Except two leadership elections, a spate of local elections, massively increasing majorities in constituencies across the country and turning many formerly tory safe seats into sharply contested ones. Oh and achieving the biggest swing to Labour since Attlee.

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Jose Davis
Jose Davis

A major crisis is being predicted to happen in next few years. Global unrest is again rising – France, Philippines, India, Ukraine, etc. 2008 economic crisis has brought many to left and made even more questioning bourgeois propaganda once more. Interest in both far left and far right ideologies is on a rise. Bourgeois propaganda and imperialism is getting more stronger and reactionary – see Venezuela and NK. Remember that despite all of this, socialist revolution is not inevitable. Things can very easily move far right into full fascism, ruling class is already once again trying to play divide and rule against minorities and between supporters of different parties, derailing the 'left' into idpol, etc. Objective conditions will once again allow for a revival of left and a socialist revolution. But do the subjective conditions, i.e. organisation of the left, exist? Nope. So the best we all comrades can do is begin organising, talk to other alienated people, slowly radicalise them (and in the beginning try to beat around the bush to drive the point home at last, because after years of brainwashing you can expect nothing else but a knee-jerk response to socialist terminology and immediate shutting off of their brains, and the old bourgeois lies parroting begins), and try whatever you can to at least bring people to the left even if you can't get them to accept Marxism. We have to build our narrative despite of media and violence monopoly of bourgeoisie. At least get to hone and carve out the already present mistrust of people on government. Bring them to not blame capitalist faults on individuals, but show them it is the result of the system itself.

It is easier said than done, but I am also trying my best to find every opportunity to at least point out faults, contradictions, hypocrisy, and lies whenever I can with my family and few friends. I have even radicalized one of them, still progress?

Join the least revisionist party in your area. Or start a reading club among your friends you think are the least reactionary.

Best of luck comrades!

Julian Mitchell
Julian Mitchell

The future is Dengist
Embrace it user

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Andrew Cook
Andrew Cook

It seems like, people are denying reality on purpose. My brother wants to buy a house, which will be paid in 30 years or so. I ask him: "You know, that the world is on the edge of total collapse, either through climate change or nuclear war? And you are still planning your life, like nothing is happening?"
Then he reacts insulted and ignores my question.

Xavier Scott
Xavier Scott

TBF possession is 9/10ths of the law, if he's 10 years into a mortgage and the global economy collapses the bank's hardly gonna come looking for the house are they?

Samuel Adams
Samuel Adams

Good post and I support what you say. Although, my optimism is not as bright as yours. I have the feeling, that a genuine marxist movement will not arise in the next years. I don't want to sound defeatist and discourage other people here, but we're really fucked…

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Christian Anderson
Christian Anderson

another blackpill thread
If you're not actively engaged in politics IRL you have zero right to complain.

Henry Flores
Henry Flores

Trust in the theory and it'll all work out.

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Lucas Clark
Lucas Clark

We are really, tbh too. I know how it feels to be sometimes be defeatist. Plus, my dive into the left has actually made me more depressed! This optimism remains for a short time, then I read some news and read what other comrades have to say online, then back to defeatism, on top of that I am extremely alienated too, like maybe many of us.

In my country, hard-right and even fascism is on the rise, we actually have in power a far-right politician who gained up ranks in his party speaking against other religions and is alleged to be a part of causing some riots which lead to deaths of minorities.

Most 'communist' parties here are chin-deep in revisionism and chauvinism. And trust me, I live in a 'third-world' country and objective conditions exist. The only revolutionary party seems to be on back foot.

Plus, the fact I am currently not able to much both individually and collectively acts as a fuel for more defeatism, for all of us really.

Relevant pics, not oc, found on this board, hits close to home.

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Oliver Parker
Oliver Parker

you mean to tell me i can't make 2 threads a week about how sad i am and not do anything about it irl

Isaiah Sullivan
Isaiah Sullivan

would you say it's a bad idea for the 18 year old dzoomer to go to university?

would it even matter?

Owen Fisher
Owen Fisher

Things will always get slowly worse, since capitalism as a productive force is becoming obsolete, but the neoliberals' absolute ideological hegemony is starting to wane, presumably because the current young adult generation wasn't indoctrinated with Cold War politics.

Oliver Carter
Oliver Carter

Turn you dispare into a drive to organize

Nathaniel Baker
Nathaniel Baker

You have actually thought about something I am confused about too. I am 18, and going through the final exams on my final year in HS.

I was 3-4 years back very optimistic about doing CS and programming, and eventually make my way to R&D. But nah. All gone.

I am now thinking of getting a minimum wage job in some city away from mine, pursue my personal interests independently and alone too, do some freelancing, etc. I don't want to go to university now. Plus, I don't even have minimum marks required to give an entrance examination to a university. I don't know which of these two came first, but these two reinforce each other constantly.

uni join would matter?
I can't say comrade. I don't get to generalize decisions for you. My opinion, according to my conditions, is a no (but for me). With the world collapsing in front of us which we hopelessly stare, I don't see planning for my own future (career and all). I just want to leave HS and organize and study Marxism. This may sound r/im14thisisdeep but we all know there isn't much time.

I think my point is the same as

and of course comrade is right too. I will do that. And I urge you all to do too.

Lincoln Campbell
Lincoln Campbell

wanting to skip university to live a life of studying Marxism and working minimum wage jobs
Surely this won't be regretted as you stare at the ceiling in bed a decade from now

Jordan Morris
Jordan Morris

s-shut up

Nathan Nguyen
Nathan Nguyen

You might not be wrong tbh. Finding MW job is difficult in my country with unemployment and population very high. I could most likely take a year drop and get into a decent college. It won't be difficult.

Elijah Rogers
Elijah Rogers

wanting to skip 100,000 debt and four years of you life being lectured at by Centrist professors about how create the status quo is.
University is only good for stem.

Kayden White
Kayden White

and bold of you to assume with shit thoughts like this I'd be able to afford a place with a bed.

Jordan Bennett
Jordan Bennett

just go into stem bro

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Colton Gutierrez
Colton Gutierrez

that isn’t my point, my point is that Universities can’ teach anything that isn’t STEM.

Parker Foster
Parker Foster

As a guy who works in a call center i don't know what to think about it

Juan Ross
Juan Ross

nihilism is the answer

Xavier Diaz
Xavier Diaz

tfw

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Liam Thomas
Liam Thomas

just be NEET bro.
zagforums.com/thread/291858/anecdotes

Matthew Butler
Matthew Butler

That gif will be a massive yuckaroo from me

Ethan Mitchell
Ethan Mitchell

Am I the only optimist on this board?

Robert Peterson
Robert Peterson

What a waste. Imagine how many people we have wasting away their potential in advertising or call centers or unemployment. How many potential engineers/doctors/scientists.

But capitalism is the most efficient of course.

Mason Cruz
Mason Cruz

everywhere I look in the world people continue to succumb to neoliberalism and reactionary thought
t. first worlder
What you are seeing is the death of the old world order. America is going to have to be put down by force. You should embrace this and prepare to help the new world emerge.

Owen Campbell
Owen Campbell

is there anywhere in the world today where things seem to be going in a positive direction?
There is no "positive" and "negative" direction.

History will keep advancing and there's nothing that can be done to stop it.
Our victory is assured.

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Blake Cox
Blake Cox

I’m not a pessimist, but neither am I an optimist.

Brandon Stewart
Brandon Stewart

Everything has always been shit

Zachary Hill
Zachary Hill

not golden age ever existed gang

Leo Reyes
Leo Reyes

is there anywhere in the world today where things seem to be going in a positive direction?
The working class movement in India. That's pretty much it.

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Cameron Parker
Cameron Parker

Yeah if only I lived in a great 3rd world country like Brazil or Zimbabwe as they slowly turn left for sure.

Dylan Davis
Dylan Davis

fell to his death

Luke Parker
Luke Parker

Seconding this.

Ethan Robinson
Ethan Robinson

tfw be lucky enough to be born in a country with free education
spent a long time in uni and i got really bored with shitty and boring stem fields, very alienating studies (im not surprised most stemlords are leaning towards fascism/ancap postures)
eventually switched to history & philosophy double degree
actually had the time of my life
If you really want to have a meaningful impart in the age of the Internet, you can put a lot of weight behind what you say if you are properly trained. Why do think most philosophers or thinkers had a very classical education? They knew about greek and roman philosophers, they knew about general history, they knew about the discoveries of their time etc etc.

Isaiah Bennett
Isaiah Bennett

Assured by what?

Thomas Evans
Thomas Evans

lol no things will only ever get worse from here on out. The period of prosperity finally ended in 2015. Cope if you want but I'm right.

Noah Carter
Noah Carter

I majored in stem, now I'm trying to learn philosophy on my own. I feel like I'm missing out on so many interesting ideas but it's very hard to teach myself this shit, even harder with work taking most of my energy and time. What do you do for work?

Jackson Wood
Jackson Wood

so we should study more latin and greek instead of leftist thought?

Landon Robinson
Landon Robinson

Yes we should

Ryan Diaz
Ryan Diaz

Oh shit forgot shitposting flag

Jayden Martin
Jayden Martin

sure you did you federal piece of shit

Nicholas Perry
Nicholas Perry

I think it's worth mentioning that the study of latin seems to be a common hobby among the deus vult meme crowd, i imagine most channers who study it in their free time are so.

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Brandon Gutierrez
Brandon Gutierrez

I rather study a language that isn't dead.
Like Russian, Chinese, or French

Adam Reyes
Adam Reyes

Hard to empathise with suicidals like this one. It's always selfish, materialistic things they kill themselves over. I am not going to worship you if you have a PhD. The DPRK is always recruiting for foreign professors especially in STEM, so why didn't you apply there? Why not trying teaching English in foreign countries if call centre work isn't fulfilling? Britain isn't the only country in the world.

Cameron Lee
Cameron Lee

You need to study leftist thought and contextualize it in its roots. Ideally, always strive to reduce as much your ignorance as you can rather than pile up immense amounts of specialized knowledge.

Do you mean what's my general methodology to learn philosophy?

Landon Bailey
Landon Bailey

i hope you lose your job and kill yoself nigga

Levi Russell
Levi Russell

jobs*

Have no patience for office politics / putting all eggs in one basket (employer).

Eli Powell
Eli Powell

Or maybe they just wanted to do Physics research instead of living paycheck to paycheck with a call center job?

Do you really think people going into areas like pure maths or theoretical physics are doing it with the expectations of making bank instead of just wanting to do what their passionate about?

Christian Gomez
Christian Gomez

just wanting to do what their passionate about
If one's passionate about doing something, they shouldn't expect to get paid for it. It has to be earned, whether through negotiations or force.

pure maths or theoretical physics

Don't need a career to do that.

instead of living paycheck to paycheck with a call center job?

He's not the only one in Britain living pay cheque to pay cheque.

Isaiah Brown
Isaiah Brown

If one's passionate about doing something, they shouldn't expect to get paid for it.

You're really saying this? I'm sorry we still live under Capitalism which entails the need to getting paid for basic survival. Please use this line on any broke student to encourage an unpaid internship, you won't sound like a boomer spouting neoliberal ideology i'm sure?

Don't need a career to do that.
Yes you fucking do when the University system gatekeeps mostly anyone outside the system, and many even inside, from publishing research in academic journals?

He's not the only one in Britain living pay cheque to pay cheque.
I never implied that, simply dispelling your stupid fucking implication of his suicide being "selfish and materalistic."

Gavin Foster
Gavin Foster

when the University system gatekeeps mostly anyone outside

Now you finally mentioned a word that's relevant and potentially productive instead of the rest of your emotional babble: "system"

If there's a system problem, then that's what this academic should've devoted himself to: creating an alternative system. Philip Elliott should've been more like Alexandra Elbakyan or Richard Stallman.

Dominic Miller
Dominic Miller

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Luke Fisher
Luke Fisher

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Joshua Williams
Joshua Williams

unpopular opion
Everything from Ancient Greece and Rome was reactionary and it has no value to us today.
Most people who go into STEM do it because they have a passion for it and that’s what they want to spend their life doing
t STEM student
If one's passionate about doing something, they shouldn't expect to get paid for it. It has to be earned, whether through negotiations or force.
A man has to eat.
Don't need a career to do that.
you do
He's not the only one in Britain living pay cheque to pay cheque.
By the time you have a PhD your 100,000 dollars in debt.

Jack Gonzalez
Jack Gonzalez

Everything from Ancient Greece and Rome was reactionary and it has no value to us today.
Spoken like a true ignorant.

Cameron Wood
Cameron Wood

Ancient Greece and Rome was reactionary and it has no value to us today.
Much like the USSR and socialist China they were managed to do amazing feats, we must learn from the past.

Hudson Watson
Hudson Watson

The DPRK is always recruiting for foreign professors
Elaborate.

Eli Turner
Eli Turner

This, I'll be looking for a job there if and when I get my physics degree.

Xavier Russell
Xavier Russell

To parrot off Cockshott, Hedges and peak-resource theory here’s how I see the future going. There’s going to be an economic crisis very soon, which could turn into a full blown global depression but personally I think it will be more like a deep recession. You’re going to see increasingly partisan politics and the beginnings of an actual working-class left start to rise up, though it will be slow to form due to the current academic / idpol left stranglehold on the movement currently. You’ll definitely start seeing more left leaning populist figures like Sanders and Corbyn spring up but also far right populists as well. Around 2030 there’s likely to be an energy crisis again, that will affect all countries, but particularly China and the United States (the US may face sever internal pressures and possible collapse which won’t be pretty). As strains on energy systems and global production and trade routes grow; you’ll see an increasing breakdown of neoliberalism in favor of internal & local development. So the good thing out of all the shit everyone’s been trekking through since the 70’s (aka globalized neoliberalism) will begin to break down and labor will start to get the upper hand due to local industry and declining fertility rates. I think this will also be tied in with stricter border controls to keep skilled labor within countries and also to prevent any possible mass migration of unskilled labor from countries heavily affected by climate change, drought and strained energy supplies. It’s gonna be a shit show overall (especially in the United States and countries heavily dependent on cheap oil / energy inputs) but you’ll also start to see the labor movement take off again which could allow for parties of the strength of the 2nd international in the old developed core.

David Cooper
David Cooper

Go to university and study something in healthcare. It's not just doctors and nurses, and if you need to leave your country in the future, it is a lot easier to emigrate if you have this profession.

If you are in burgerland, you can reduce costs by attending community college for your general education then pursue your concentration in a better school.

Benjamin Diaz
Benjamin Diaz

Life expectancy is rising worldwide you fearmongering faggots

Jack Nelson
Jack Nelson

Bandaid solution, disarm the people, don't change the culture.

Great results.

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Evan Ross
Evan Ross

tf
tp

Parker Wood
Parker Wood

Things are pretty bad for the most part however more and more people are becoming fed up with capitalism and neoliberalism. There is emerging populist movements and people craving for change. As long as people know the current way of life is terrible and full of constant problems and stress, they'll be looking for solutions. They'll be willing to tear down the old order for something new. We can hold onto the hope that people wake up and fully have enough.

Caleb Nelson
Caleb Nelson

hold onto the hope that people wake up and fully have enough
hold onto the hope
hold on
Don't.

Ryan Bailey
Ryan Bailey

Yes I remember reading:
The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to hold onto the hope that people wake up and full have enough of it.

Ian Hall
Ian Hall

It’s easier if you do

Benjamin Brooks
Benjamin Brooks

it is

Isaiah Parker
Isaiah Parker

WTF does that have to do with Corbyn. Probably more to do with the continued economic suffering and do-nothing police force that spends all their time finding weed farms.

Blake Brooks
Blake Brooks

a fucking rose

Hunter Gomez
Hunter Gomez

Life expectancy is constantly rising cause killing ppl for no reason is bad business and technological advances still slowly creep into 3rd world countries despite exploitation making it difficult.
Also is a life of eternal self concious slavedom that inevitably ends in suicide, which is the most plausible end result of life extension in the current system imo, really worth aspiring to?

Cooper Jones
Cooper Jones

Yeah I'm really glad the capitalists let some of the imperialist war profits go to healthcare and education.

Hopefully across the pod we will elect bernard and he can give some of the imperial war profits to me.

International solidarity comrade!!

Parker Wilson
Parker Wilson

This is really the big meme for me.

Russian peasants went from farming to the moon in a few decades and the US world hegemony has literally billions of individuals under intentional conditions of malnutrition causing mental retardation and early death.

We could have had real life Star Trek years ago.

Landon White
Landon White

Unpopular opinion : too many engineers is a waste in and by itself

Jason Anderson
Jason Anderson

how?