Thread on peak capitalism. How close are we to the end? Should we fear the future Zig Forums?
Late Stage Capitalism
you tell me, you're the one who believes christ will come back and kill us all even if we make communism
Heaven is the ultimate post-scarcity utopia tho. Who wouldn't want that?
Sorry for the ironic flagposting
If your a Millennial or Gen Z Capitalism will likely end in your lifetime. If your a Boomer probably not. Don’t know about Gen X.
fearing the future and glorifying the past is reactionary.
how bout fear the past and glorify the future?
Capitalism won't collapse all at once. It'll collapse in stages. Pre-crash in 2008 was actually the peak of capitalism, and we are now on the long decline. It's just going to decline in jagged steps, with the next drop down probably coming up sooner rather than later. And then we'll have another 10+ year period of "recovery", followed by another crash. Over and over until the system actually can't sustain itself. Probably 100 years of this, honestly.
Global revolution.
I've become a doomer. All I feel now is an impending sense of decay and death.
/doom/ers are retards, the entire board seems to have no reasoning of any kind
You'll get over it. I was a feeling doomy for a week or so, now I just accept it. Prepare for revolution comrade. Hope you know how to grow your own vegetables.
If you only knew how terribly good things are
Sure, but in fits and spurts, and not in all countries at once. These periods of unrest will coincide with the step-down collapse of capitalism.
The Arab Spring was one example of mass unrest caused by climate change. But, notice how it petered out and mostly stayed contained in a few countries? That's going to be what happens every time, though more-and-more countries each time.
I don't know if i'm correct but i think climate change will affect locally, not globally, but still if some place fails it affects a large number of other places i guess.
Excuse me for being a brainlet, but do you have a source or something that backs up how the Arab Spring coincided with climate change. That would actually really help for all the times reactionaries refuse to accept the existence that climate change is a thing.
user, being a /doomer/ doesn't mean you need to give up on communism or survival. Being a /doomer/ means you're extremely idealistic, extremely angry, and extremely depressed. You are the most revolutionary man alive right now.
There are two options for the doomer;
Or
/doomer/s aren't nihilists, /doomer/s aren't afraid of death, they're just waiting for either the cameras to turn off and the rioting to start, or for the depression to get so bad that revolutionary suicide is the only way to end it all.
Political rage is the only reason you're still alive. Embrace it.
It won't really help with convincing reactionaries of anything, since basically it was caused by mass migration due to drought. All reactionaries will take away from it is that we need to build walls and shoot immigrants or whatever.
This. Global Warming = massive amount of refugees = world turns fascist
who are you, fucking CIA, how do you know me this well?
open borders or mass genocide choose your side nigga i choose the elephant crew (not conservatives i'm talking about an actual elephant crew that will appear in the future and save us from climate change)
Hot take Arab slring was 1848 and ME lives on a staggered timeline 150 years behind the political and economic trends of the West
As communists, I strongly feel we need to prepare for this and do what we can to set the stage for a less catastrophic meeting between the refugees and militant nationalist elements. It will be bloody either way, but this is where the seed of socialism will have to be born. I remember a quote by Zizek, where he says that climate disaster and mass migration are no guarantee for the birth of socialism, that it could well give to fascism. I completely agree, and this seems to be well understood around here, like the birth of Chirst, socialism will be born into a bed ill suited for it to grow in, and completely at odds with it's glory, the communist glory to be realized by all man kind.
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That piece on mobile homes struck a chord with me. Especially with the aggressive towing and the ridiculous grass cutting fee for a lot not even larger than the trailer itself
Self fulfilling prophecy. There are no stages of capitalism.
"Retirement" as it's currently understood was only really a concept during the post-WWII era where the economy was the most prosperous in human history (thanks to the use of broken-window economics+all the new succdem programs). Once the boomers bite the dust, it will never exist again. You absolute DO NOT want to live to be old. By the time Gen Y/Z is elderly the world will be a fucking hellscape. Stock a 12-gauge with shells, because you'll almost certainly need it.
I don't think that's true. Almost every country has a retirement age around 60, doesn't matter where they are on the economic index.
Wrong. The neolibs moved it up to 67, and pretty soon it'll be 70.
are you me?
And in communist? capitalist? China it's wear a diaper and pee while working the random Chinese crap assembly line.
Terrifying accurate…
I bet in 2050 it will be around 90 years.
Very close. All it takes is for most jobs to be taken by the robots: digdeeper.neocities.org
I fucking swear, he deserves the wall more than any other Daily Mail writer
The S.W.E.A.T pledge literally makes me sick to my stomach, because reactionaries unironically support it and it embodies the purest form of neo-liberalism on a single sheet of paper.
so capitalism is pretty epic
That's why The N.E.E.T. Pledge is far superior. It triggers the fuck out of righties.
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maybe the illegal wars part is the one the triggers righties, but yeah it was obviously made by a rightwing-NEET
is something held up by a millionaire actor who "works" in dirty jobs while talking shit about how OSHA regulations are for girly men. It's not an honest expression of the idiotic views of some classcucked zombie, it's conscious propaganda made by the ruling class. Before you get mad at anybody who unironically retweets shit like this or likes it on facebook, you should check whether they have employees, and if so, it's quite natural that they would push for this and it's useless to argue with them or wonder how they can be that stupid. It's often deliberate bullshit.
The idea of the app is to piss people off. From stupidhackathon.com
Based son tbh
Well that's somewhat relieving. I looked at the profile of the guy who posted it and he seems to be a tech privacy advocate of some sort, not the sort you'd expect to support that type of thing. Guess he was shitposting and it got taken seriously.
Don't forget the revolutionary strategy
Holy fuck pic related was the first commie doomer.
"1. The revolutionary is a doomed man. He has no personal interests, no business affairs, no emotions, no attachments, no property, and no name. Everything in him is wholly absorbed in the single thought and the single passion for revolution." - The Catechism of a Revolutionary
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very relatable
poor kid.
parents making their kids this fat should be considered child abuse.
only from an egoist perspective
who in the fuck goes camping without a flashlight to begin with? This irks me so much because it's that much of a waste. They could have put a vibrator instead of a flashlight attachment and it would have made more sense.
retards
incidentally, the same people who would buy this piece of shit
they just know their customers
china ain't no socialist nation
Okay, but that's no grounds for making baseless claims.
Especially when assembly-line piss bottles are actually a Western thing.
How could I forget this gem
wtf but Zig Forums told me they were as bad as the other imperialists.
If you just replaced the song with the lyrics with an instrumental of the tune, it would fit better since the tune is both for the British national anthem and a patriotic American song. Add a Union Jack to the beginning as well.
I didn't make the webm unfortunately
I won't risk making any timetables for the demise of capitalism. Just about every socialist and anarchist has thought they were witnessing its final moments, not unlike every Christian thought they were about to witness Judgment Day.
What I am willing to bet is that we just witnessed capitalism's highest inflection point, which is a pedantic way of saying it just moved past its apex.
Yeah, about that…
cheatsheet.com
The Arab Spring was in no way, shape or form comparable to 1848. It was a brief local revolt which barely succeeded, and triggered a wave of misguided bougie demands, all of which failed miserably for a million reasons.
Is free will the biggest spook in history?
Please tell me you have the source for that first graph. It's pretty much I_told_you_so.png.
Id this 1848 or the Arab Spring your talking about?
Hot take.
The West is gonna go Communist because of how much it is being squeezed while Russia and China become Fascist and it's in our best interests to talk about those are Fascist shitholes and led the Revolution in the West and conquer everyone.
We need to convince everyone that it won't be so bad since the faggot commies would get shot right after the bankers and CEOs do and that since most communist societies are just reflections of the pre-communist society there (Soviet Union is just the Russian Empire with different thugs in charge, China is just Imperial China with different thugs in charge, Cuba is a generic banana republic but with different thugs in charge, etc), We need to convince people that communism in the West wouldn't so bad, and I think people wouldn't mind swapping out Mr. Noseberg and his Wall Street crew for Commisar Cletus and Commisar Jamal.
It's from this paper
Mild take
The West will go communist when Imperialism fails. When this happens a war between them and the Chinese capitalist block will happen due to a Socialist America trying to reinforce the monroe doctrine, this war will go nuclear.
Probably within a decade or two of the end of post WWII order for sure. I doubt it's the end of capitalism though, it'll just be privatizing and closing more and more commons as both the water rises and the deserts expand. Europe, Russia, and China all still need to be defeated even if the US goes.
By the time Global Warming starts seriously destroying the lives of the majority of the population expect a wave of revolution and coups.
coups for sure, but you're not going to get revolution from the proletariat Marx expected to lead the world to communism. It'll probably be the literal billions of refugees flooding into Canada, Greenland, and Russia that will either create socialism, a new era of resource wars, or both
While Climate Change will cause extreme storm patterns, drout and flooding. The amount of area it’ll make uninhabitable is relatively low (assuming climate change will stop by 2070 which I’m making because by than Oil will run out at current consumption rates)
The first billion will be displaced by climate change. The additional billions will be displaced by the ensuing conflict.
there will be a lot of fun and rejoicing when whole countries will get prolonged wet bulb temperature above 36°C
fuck sake.
saw pic related out in the wild, does it belong ITT?
10 points of you can get a shell on that fridge.
PEAK CAPITALISM
This proves Jason Unruhe and nick land right.
what if i want to dunk my burger in milk instead ?
bittersweet feeling tbqh