So the Murray-Darling is a fucking huge river network that runs up pretty much the entire south-east coast of Aus
Just a while ago a report from our Royal Commision (I Guess the closest analogue would be a special investigation like in the US or whatever) revealed that it is pretty much fucked and in all likelyhood is probably beyond saving at this point
It revealed that the river is drying up in some areas and that a mass die off of fish and other marine life is occurring in the basin and that parts of the river are now ecological dead zones with little to no life in them and that the water is unsafe to use for human consumption (See the other thread about the "Rotten egg showers")
It also revealed that farmers have been illegally draining the river / people have been dumping shit in the river / our Reactionary politicans have been complicit etc
And I shit you not the next fucking day after these reports were released the reactionary shit stain responsible for managing the river in my state (NSW) came out and literally (To paraphrase) said…
So what will be the name of the Holodomar that happens because of this.
Ausdomar?
Jonathan Sanchez
funny cuz that was caused by kulaks and porkies too
Juan Gomez
Rip all those thousands of kilometers worth of river-ways and thousands of wildlife both Aquatic and Land based and everything else which benefits from it. How do you fuck up one of the most important river-ways we have.
Durr just let all the Kulaks siphon as much water as possible and dump chemicals into the water and pay off the local politicians and everything will be fine. The Socialist world republic will punish those who willingly destroyed the environment for profit, hopefully on some of the most serious crimes against humanity.
Matthew Adams
why are kulaks such horrible individuals
Adrian Martinez
Any ideas of how we're gonna go about stopping these cunts? Is a people's war from the bush a viable option? Should we storm Parliament?
This shit is fucked, who's doing anything about it? Tell me so I can join them.
It fucking wouldn't have. These bastards who caused this would be fucking gulag'd
William Morgan
as far as i'm aware the soviets weren't ecological at all, there's that lake that supposedly has a lot of fresh clean water that they kept dumping toxic shit in, it didn't get any better, Putin literally justified constructing a factory next to it by saying "i went on a submarine and believe me, i didn't saw any pollution down there"
Noah Flores
see pic. just from the socialist focus on efficiency and planning alone (good city layouts, commieblocks, public transport, housing near workplace, etc), the USSR was far more ecologically-friendly than most other developed countries of the time. Add to that nuclear power (%14 of all electricity production in 1985 iaea.org/sites/default/files/25204744759.pdf) and hydro (ten of the 14 largest dams were build in soviet times en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroelectricity_in_Russia). They also funded a lot of important research on ecology and global warming.
Are you sure? i read it was a paper bleaching factory that started the pollution and it didn't stop until 2006, then closed in 2010 and they still want to open another thing there.
Thanks for those sources tho
Ethan Bell
Short of taking state power, there is really nothing that can be done. The people currently killing the Murray-Darling are very closely tied to both the major parties, plus china. Meaning that under the current system they effectively have carte blanche to do whatever they wish in the pursuit of profits.
No. The CPAML investigated this to the point of sending cadres over to Maoist China to be trained in guerilla warfare by the PLA. However they utterly failed to organise such a struggle even during the high point of the second wave of socialist influence in Australia. With all of the advances in technology since then, such an option is basically a non-starter.
Australia is at anyone time host to a garrison of several thousand American military personnel, plus a dedicated CIA outpost that America considers critical to their interests in our region. Not to mention the many other such personnel stationed elsewhere in the region. Any attempt at some-sort of 1917 like uprising would be very quickly put down by them.
Nobody. There is literally not a single group in this nation that is doing anything substantive to change things. Indeed, the vast majority of the groups that claim to be doing so are (knowingly or not) little more then agents of the status quo themselves.
Logan Diaz
So we just die?
Oliver Stewart
Good to see you back "Not Howard"
Easton Scott
Ultimately that is the likely outcome of all of this. It certainly will be, should one continue to put much stock in the current crop of socialist organisations.
Organisations forever trapped in the 20th century or obsessed with id-pol are not about to fix any of these problems locally or globally; Nor would they ever get the opportunity too. A fundamentally different approach is required if the future of our species is to be ensured.
Caleb Russell
IM SERIOUSLY FUCKING MAD ABOUT THIS SHIT YET WHATTHE FUCK DO I DO? It seems like the best thing to do is to go full doomsday prepper. I hope the fucking CPA gets it's shit together. It's the one party that aint trots but they look just as impotent.
CPA have absolutely no coherent political line whatsoever. It is basically "socialism is whatever you want it to be". Political line differs massively from state to state, cell to cell. Some claim that modern China is a socialist state, some do not. Some claim the DPRK is socialist, some claim it is "fascist". Some are hardline IDPOLers, some are more critical of IDPOL. Most aren't even aware that political liner differs wildly across the party.
The entire strategy for building the party revolves around taking as few concrete positions as possible, claiming as few policies as possible, etc. This is to try to create a "united tent" party, and which leads to them usually taking the easiest/most comfortable position possible when they are forced to make a decision. "United Tents" work well for liberals, not very well for Communists.
In reality, anybody with an ounce of serious political inclination is turned away entirely from them, and the party succeeds mostly at attracting either people who are severely mentally ill, or radlib university students.
The CPA will go nowhere at any time, under any circumstances. It is a useless 20th century socialist nostalgia fan club/radlib larp squad masquerading as a communist party.
William Myers
Socialistlet here. Can someone explain to me the hatred Trots get? I really have no idea what the difference between Trotskyists and non-Trotskyists is so I don't know what the argument is about
Jayden Adams
They are considered petty-bourgeois, a deviation of marxism, don't ask me to elaborate because i don't know what that exactly means.
Ryan Edwards
God, illustrations like these remind me how similar Stalin and King Bradley look.
They often fall back on COINTELPRO tier propaganda about 20th century socialist states. their entryist tactics makes them seem like disruptive infiltrators and sneaks. Some of them have fallen down some really weird as holes (Sparts supporting NAMBLA, space aliens bringing us communism) though to be fair, the rest of the communist movement has some bad history with this as well (Japanese Red Army).
It really irks me that their main analysis just seems to be "If only tortzky woulda won everything would be better", discounting the fact that Trotsky was way more of a barracks communist than Stalin. I find it to be a lazy cop-out from actually getting into the nitty gritty of studying 20th century socialist experiments. This is my main issue with trotskyists. Trots can be okay though, I just find Trotskyism to be a lazy retreat before bourgois propaganda and frankly it's an unnecessary tendency.
Sebastian Turner
Trots are posadists?
Jacob White
Well no. Posadists are trots.
James Bailey
you mean the very original posadists that tried to get the US to nuke their country were trots?
Leo Brooks
I mean that the one and only Juan Posadas, him and his followers, were genuine Trotskyists.
