You place too much emphasis on defeating Nazis, too much on defeating "fascists", but will turn a blind eye to the fact that the unification with the pagan ideals and ways, that is, a way for you to join forces and unite with them would help greatly. You are deceived into thinking that your biggest evil are the Nazis. That is a fatal mistake. Nazis make the exact same mistake. You'll forever be slaves, forever be pathetic weaklings hoping for things to change, preventing each other to succeed and acheive what would be a better world than that of today, no matter which "side" wins. You often fail to acknowledge the lies about each other spread by the media and by this you become enemies. Heed these words, otherwise you won't get even an inch closer to what you desire and if so only in a bastardised, misinterpreted way of the original vision.
Why you and your "enemies" will never suceed
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how does that work, shouldn't reading on screens be discouraged?
Cool, nice persuasive argument. I am shook by your skills of reasoning.
Merely of another form of "duuude you're wrong, loool"
Are you OP? fuck you dude give actual arguments instead of saying both sides are wrong
What? I'm saying both sides at current time are pitted against each other but if they worked together for their interests upon which they agree upon, they'd actually get closer to what they desire.
Fine, then don't come bitching to me that nothing is improving.
Nazis share no interests with us you stupid retard
Instead, faglords like Landon Powell, a pseudocommunist, which is of the 1% will spend time stiffling free speech image boards because they don't meet some supposed freedom of speech demands, which in turn tarnishes the reputation of communists and, of course, reduces the amount of places for freedom of speech.
Nazis are capitalist and want to maintain the status quo. They are radical right wing liberals. Why do so many idiots think otherwise?
What? I don't see many front page threads talking about nazis. yet you made this one mentioning them a lot… confusing.
What do you mean by this? Unification with the Pegan Ideals and ways?! Sounds great to me but as far as i can see has literally nothing to do with Leftism or Nazis. Explain?
Do you think most people here don't have a critique of the media? What exactly lead you to believe this?
Can you give me a reason that your advice is valuable, user? What organizing have you done that has been incredibly successful that would warrant us heeding your words?
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Reminder that most of you here who are larping as communists would have been spit upon by actual communists. Go to eastern Europe and talk to a communist. You'll see how many things he'll disagree upon with you. Your communism of today is a watered down bastardization.
Yeah, because the nazis surely must be very happy with the bastardised world of today and don't want to change it at all, right? A Nazi would be better off in a communist society, and a communist in a Nazi society. The one we are in today is in the interest of the rich and profit driven (so some people from a misbegotten land and their pawns).
What is different from our versions of communism?
And the nazi that's happy in a communist society would no longer be a nazi, nazism was based upon the idea of "uniting all of the classes of Germany", so still classes, still capitalism.
Nazi "socialism" was openly antagonistic to Marxism and any other conception of socialism. In practice their "socialist" pretensions were demagogy meant to draw voters away from the SPD and KPD.
By privatizing the economy, purging all the "left-leaning" elements of the NSDAP, persecuting socialists, invading and attempting to destroy the Soviet Union and "Jewish Bolshevism"? what kind of "socialism" is that? only in name, nothing the Nazis did was socialist in nature. and don't give me that "socialism but not marxism" bullshit, you can't just steal the term socialism, get rid of everything that makes it socialist, then claim that it's yours (or that you're the "real socialists" like i see a lot of Not Socialists do).
All nazis want is capitalism with extra eugenics.
Actually they killed tens of millions but it doesn't hurt to look at the individual victims of mass killing sometimes.
Also, 'actual communists' in Eastern Europe (at least major parties) are by and large reactionaries that can somehow synthesise being 'communist' and supporting nationalist fascists like Putin, so I'm not really interested in their opinion.
What an infantile word salad without any nuance whatsoever. Sounds like some 14 year old libertarian wrote this garbage. I feel physical embarrassment reading this, this “pathetic weaklings” garbage. Is this pasta, or are you a crack baby or some shit?
Go read on paganism, German occultism, how Paganism was beneficial for people and was destroyed by Christianity,…
You use the lies of the media when it benefits you. To know about Nazis you should listen to what they have to say, and they should do the say regarding you.
It is the reason in the argument that matters, not where the argument comes from that matters.
And all the Aryans, that is ethnic Europeans such as slavs.
Communism was in theory prohibited but in practice it was very weakly. What I meant was that a communist would be happier in such society as the society would more resemble what he desires unlike today's world of materialistic obsession.
Not sure about that. From what I know their Banks were independent from that of which enslaves the masses of today and got rid of debt slavery. Also note, many ideas of Hitler were taken from Marx.
Yes, a literal communist who worked in a communist party involved in USSR affairs is a reactionary. Hahahaha!
Do you know what materialism means past the idea of a greedy man that only cares about material things?
Would rather not rot my brain with that spooky stuff
Typical comment from a close minded sheep that is willfully ignorant. Stupidity, hurrah!
you are like a babby, this is how you hurrah youtube.com
Yeah if you say you're a communist you are one, just like how DPRK is 'democratic' right? The USSR was a conservative state capitalist institution.
i think this video will be more informative than that one youtube.com
I've talked to them. Did you? You did not.
I know what it is and it's benefits.
Yes. I understand this. I'm not an idiot. My question is how is this relivent to anything? Too leftists or nazis? What are you trying to say, exactly?
Have I? Source?
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my family lived to see beautiful socialist motherland and they said it was THE SHIT
And what does that prove? The theoretical underpinning of Marxism is Marx's writing, not Stalin's.
Nazism is closely related to pagan values. I believe Hitler only used Christianity as a temporal lure to be replaced with Paganism as Hitler was inspired by Paganism. Paganism is antithetical to the capitalist values of today and represents a return to nature and freedom from the material pleasures used against us by capitalism.
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During USSR all means were owned by the state and were there to benefit the people, not the bottom line. You can cry capitalist all you want but after the fall of the USSR, people aren't very happy with what their countries turned out to be (rotten).
what the fuck are you arguing then? nazis weren't socialists and communism isn't about going back to an idealized version of society where nature is good and cool. we don't share anything and it makes absolute sense we oppose them
I'm not saying the USSR wasn't better than modern Russia (it is) but it certainly wasn't communism, it's somewhat arguable whether it was socialism, but if so it was certainly a degraded and flawed implementation. The USSR is nothing we should be trying to emulate today.
Your ideology is closer to it than capitalism is. I'm arguing for communist-nazi cooperation against their common foe.
I'd say it was socialist. Teachers during that time said that they were moving towards communism.
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Not at all, maybe current nazis that heard propaganda about nazism being socialism have this retarded mix but the original nazis didn't believe this at all.
You didn't read it so i will give this back to you:
Nazi "socialism" was openly antagonistic to Marxism and any other conception of socialism. In practice their "socialist" pretensions were demagogy meant to draw voters away from the SPD and KPD.
By privatizing the economy, purging all the "left-leaning" elements of the NSDAP, persecuting socialists, invading and attempting to destroy the Soviet Union and "Jewish Bolshevism"? what kind of "socialism" is that? only in name, nothing the Nazis did was socialist in nature. and don't give me that "socialism but not marxism" bullshit, you can't just steal the term socialism, get rid of everything that makes it socialist, then claim that it's yours (or that you're the "real socialists" like i see a lot of Not Socialists do).
I'm sorry but this is utter nonsense, broskie.
Why don't you think the nazi project was a capitalist project?
(me)
Whatsmore is that the nazi 'traditional' value system is nothing more than an oldtimey christian morality. What value is there in this for the pagan, really?
They threw communists in concentration camps, you fucking retard. If you've ever read anything by Hitler, you would see how deeply his hatred for socialism went.